What Happened to Fr. John Corapi?

[ookie]

Thank you. I do pray my Rosary daily with intentions including Father but I will certanily join this group at times as well.

Miriam…sorry for my being upset at your comment. I was never good at (and never listened in class) at punctuation and grammar. There was a time I wouldn’t join in on any posts because of it. Sorry, I’ll try my best. Take care and God Bless

 

[Hail_Linus]

• I am a little shocked at the ease of which some posters described the guilt of Father Corapi. I have kept abreast of his situation from day one and no where did I read that there was ANYcredible evidence against him. Where did they get this information? I am hoping they were not just repeating many uncharitable bloggers “venom” because many of them are not even Catholic and most are athiests. This priest deserves to be assumed innocent unless PROVEN otherwise. Many would do well to read the Medjugorje message this month. Our Lady explicitly asks,“not to judge the Shepherds, remember children God has chosen them”.*

I agree with you. I am not saying he is necessarily innocent but he has not been proven guilty either. Furthermore, no one takes into consideration that he may indeed have some organic mental illness. Even if he is guilty, we should be more compassionate. He did abuse his brain with drugs and alcohol when he he was younger. He is at an age where mental problems often (not always) start creeping in. I personally had been concerned with him for the past two years. Not because of anything he said but just because something seemed wrong with him. He didn’t even look like himself anymore.

 

[Hail_Linus]

No. that’s Fr. Cutie.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Cuti%C3%A9

Fr. Cutie is truly evil. Good riddance to him. I never liked him. I can tell you from personal knowledge he destroyed Catholic Radio in South Florida. The number of Catholics in South Florida is very large and yet thanks to him we no longer have English language Catholic Radio. He even wrote a book about the Problems in the Catholic Church in South Florida which was kind of funny because he was part of the problem.

He also continuously lies about Catholicism. I heard him doing an interview a few months ago where he lied and claimed ordained priests could marry in the Catholic Church until the 1500’s. He also made the false claim that the first forty Popes were all married when in fact it was only three and we are not even sure if Peter (one of the three) was perhaps a widower when he was ordained.

Say what you will about Corapi but unlike Cutie, he never lies about Catholicism. And BTW, the Anglican Bishop Cutie now bows before is even more evil that Cutie. The Anglican Bishop’s escapades in Honduras are legendary.

 

[Miriam1947]

Thank you. I do pray my Rosary daily with intentions including Father but I will certanily join this group at times as well.

Miriam…sorry for my being upset at your comment. I was never good at (and never listened in class) at punctuation and grammar. There was a time I wouldn’t join in on any posts because of it. Sorry, I’ll try my best. Take care and God Bless

Here’s my secret for paragraphs.

I just hit a double return after every few sentences. I do not worry about the grammar part or even whether a paragraph is necessary.

I do it for easy reading.

Because in real life run on sentences are a part of me and I can go on for days and days before I take a breath.

By the way, no apology necessary but accepted. I truly was not trying to upset you and I apologize for doing so. Friends?

 

[ookie]

****** Thanks for the hint

By all means, yes friends

 

[guanophore]

I agree with you. I am not saying he is necessarily innocent but he has not been proven guilty either. Furthermore, no one takes into consideration that he may indeed have some organic mental illness. Even if he is guilty, we should be more compassionate. He did abuse his brain with drugs and alcohol when he he was younger. He is at an age where mental problems often (not always) start creeping in. I personally had been concerned with him for the past two years. Not because of anything he said but just because something seemed wrong with him. He didn’t even look like himself anymore.

This is a very good point. He tells how he was in a psychiatric hospital for at least a year. This does not happen to people without good reason. It could be that whatever was in remission during his last 20 years of ministry is no longer in remission.

 

[guanophore]

Here’s my secret for paragraphs.

I just hit a double return after every few sentences. I do not worry about the grammar part or even whether a paragraph is necessary.

I do it for easy reading.

Because in real life run on sentences are a part of me and I can go on for days and days before I take a breath.

By the way, no apology necessary but accepted. I truly was not trying to upset you and I apologize for doing so. Friends?

:grouphug:

 

[Miriam1947]

:grouphug:

:hug3: Sweet you are.

 

[CopticChristian]

Actually, he lost that standing on Ash Wed. when he was placed on admistrative leave. He was to remain suspended until the investigation was completed, then he effectively blocked the investigation by filing a lawsuit for libel against his accuser. The canon law states that witnesses cannot be pressured or coerced in any way. He was asked to withdraw the lawsuit and refused. He also had non-disclosure agreement with other key witnesses that also worked at Santa Cruz Media, which he would not lift,either.

He also has amassed an embarassing amount of personal property and has been selling the gospel for profit through his DVD’s and CD;s.

This sounds like he has another opportunity to repent and an opportunity to take up a cross.

 

[CopticChristian]

Yeah I struggle to listen to him too. But what he said in those tapes are TRUTH. His actions do not change that it is TRUTH. I have to constantly tell myself, this is TRUTH and try not to listen to him colored thourgh the lens that I know him now.

God bless.

Ya gotta wonder if CNN, Inside Edition and others were around at the time Tertullian went astray what would have been said…different situation…yet astray.

 

[Franze]

Very strange and sad, but in our lives we aren´t lights too in all moments. I will pray for him and for Cutie although he is very lost.

 

[Miriam1947]

Walls of text can be difficult to follow. Since I tend to be a bit of a spelling/grammar nazi, I figured I’d lend a helping hand.

Telstar I’m sorry, I forgot to thank you.

 

[Miriam1947]

This thread is posted in non-Catholic religions and I think I can see why.

Father Corapi is no longer a practicing Catholic but only God knows his heart. So, I guess we have to believe in God’s mercy. He knows what is truly happening here.

And, as it always does, it comes down to prayer. So we pray for Fr. Corapi’s soul. His teaching on the Catechism was always correct. His DVD series had the quotes straight from the book.

Pray for him and all our priests and religious. They need our prayers so very much.

 

[brumano]

I agree that it is improper for any of us to ascribe guilt to anyone, especially a member of the clergy. You are right, it is not our place to do so. However, there are other sources besides venomous bloggers, the most incriminating being Corapi himself

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He said from the start the allegations are false he has maintained and still does that they are false, you’re giving an impression here that he has himself admitted to the allegations; that is not so.

There is also no reason for SOLT to incriminate him falsely.

 

[guanophore]

He said from the start the allegations are false he has maintained and still does that they are false, you’re giving an impression here that he has himself admitted to the allegations; that is not so.

Actually, the reasons that SOLT recalled him had nothing to do with the allegations, and the information that came out that concerned SOLT was not part of the allegations, either.

The allegations could not be investigated because a) he sued the accuser and disobeyed the authorities over him in refusing to drop the suit and b) he ran away from his community and his vocation.

SOLT has decided to accept unsupported charges from various sources as being true about the activities of Fr. Corapi; you have no way of knowing what if any reasoning they had or used, it is possible that as was conjectured, that they were simply and blindly “obeying orders”.

SOLT has sufficient evidence to believe that what they posted is the truth. There is no reason to think that what they posted that supports their determination that he is unfit for ministry is related in any way to the allegations.

You are right, I don’t know what reasoning they had, or used, and what evidenced turned up in their investigation. But I have no reason to distrust SOLT, or to think that they would post this information unless they were gravely concerned about him.

They don’t need to “conjecture” anything, and they certainly are not “blindly following orders”. They are clearly concerned for his eternal wellbeing and that of his followers.

There is no reason that Corapi should not follow the directives of his superior, go home to his community, and cooperate with the investigation. It is these actions of disobedience that are most concerning.

 

[DJK100]

Frankly, guitly or innocent I do not know. What we do know is he broke his vows to obey his superiors and ran away from the church. That is what makes me sad in this whole situation. He didn’t want to obey his bishop. That action only makes me scrutinize him more to be honest.

 

[Marie5890]

Frankly, guitly or innocent I do not know. What we do know is he broke his vows to obey his superiors and ran away from the church. That is what makes me sad in this whole situation. He didn’t want to obey his bishop. That action only makes me scrutinize him more to be honest.

I think his lack of obedience bothered a great many of those who followed him, too. Everyone once in a while I check his facebook page. Those who “follow” his page is quite small these days compared to what he had in the past, and many that post there are very much encouraging him to come back to the church and it’s very clear that they are devout Catholics.

He (or his company) dont post there much. Only when they are promoting (or so it seems) a new release of his that is for sale.

It’s all very sad. The videos that he has done of recent (meaning past several months) and there are not many, show me a very sad man, almost defeated somehow.

I pray for him. He seems to be hurting.

 

[Telstar]

Telstar I’m sorry, I forgot to thank you.

Not a problem. I have the same thought whenever I see a WoT that’s not broken into paragraphs, or a mass of run-on sentences, with hardly any punctuation to separate them. It makes it very hard to read, so I could definitely sympathize with you on that.

 

[Telstar]

This thread is posted in non-Catholic religions and I think I can see why.

Father Corapi is no longer a practicing Catholic but only God knows his heart. So, I guess we have to believe in God’s mercy. He knows what is truly happening here.

And, as it always does, it comes down to prayer. So we pray for Fr. Corapi’s soul. His teaching on the Catechism was always correct. His DVD series had the quotes straight from the book.

Pray for him and all our priests and religious. They need our prayers so very much.

He might have left the Priesthood (which is very sad), but he said that he is still very much Catholic and always will be. From what I understand about his reason to leave the Priesthood was because it would have kept him from doing what he felt he still needed to do. Under obedience, he would have had to stop speaking out about the things that he sees going on within the Church hierarchy (especially in America) that are not what they should be. I’m not sure if I understand his reasoning, but it’s very possible that he didn’t want to disobey his superiors, so he left, instead.

 

[guanophore]

He might have left the Priesthood (which is very sad), but he said that he is still very much Catholic and always will be. From what I understand about his reason to leave the Priesthood was because it would have kept him from doing what he felt he still needed to do. Under obedience, he would have had to stop speaking out about the things that he sees going on within the Church hierarchy (especially in America) that are not what they should be. I’m not sure if I understand his reasoning, but it’s very possible that he didn’t want to disobey his superiors, so he left, instead.

You are right that he may well still be a practicing Catholic, and this is his claim. I think it was posted in non-Catholic religions because the OP is not a Catholic. I have run into many non-Catholics here who think this is the only place they are allowed to post.

I see your point about leaving because he thought what he had to say was more important than his identity as a priest. I just can’t accept that, though.

In leaving he DID disobey his superior, his bishop, and his promises to the Church. The reason these promises are there is to hold people close to the bosom of the Church when they get some wild idea that what they have to say is more important. We must always be willing to obey, even if our superiors are wrong. God will triumph without our egos.