What happened with Ireland?

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Holy men don’t rape children. I can respect the priesthood while simultaneously calling out those who seek to disgrace their vocation by their repungent behaviour.
 
I wasn’t questioning that Shrod , as we know the damage which has been caused especially in South America.

Rather talking about those questioning the clergy regarding politics in Ireland.
 
Shame on you @Thorolfr spreading anti-Catholic lies.

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DEBUNKING THE “MASS GRAVE” STORY

To read Donohue's full account of this story, see the "Special Reports" section on the Catholic League's website. [Click Here] One of the key players in the "mass grave" story about the Tuam home is Catherine Corless, a local historian. Her research "suggested 796 babies were buried in a tank...
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. . . . Corruption, hypocrisy, modernism & Sins of the flesh aided & abetted the sorry story.
 
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Loud-living-dogma:
Shame on you @Thorolfr spreading anti-Catholic lies
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It might be wise to wait for the excavation work and subsequent report to be completed before nailing “lies” to the mast.
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Read the link?
 
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I think sadly that part of the reason is perhaps related to what I think is a sort of inferiority complex in the Irish psyche and I think also a desire to be accepted into the fold as a modern, ‘progressive’, European country. It is all very sad, I think.

I also think that some people may have voted to legalise abortion without really thinking what they were really voting for, but did it as a sort of ‘vote for modernity’, or even in some cases may have voted as a kind of protest vote against the Church in Ireland. It is all really very sad.
 
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So I am saying I do not believe the scandals were the cause of the church losing members.
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They were not the sole cause but it did help. A lot.

Catholics who weren’t too particularly keen about Church teachings and following it were given a good reason to drop out completely.
 
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I mean, Ireland was a symbol of Catholic piety and faithfulness, a really proud beacon of our faith
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Was it really?

Or was it the perception of those descended from Irish immigrants who tend to romanticize the old country?
 
Sarcelle said:
Was it really?

Or was it the perception of those descended from Irish immigrants who tend to romanticize the old country?
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I think it was once the ‘land of saints and scholars’ and was, I believe, up until recent times a Catholic country, but I think something changed around about the 1990s.

I would say that the beacon of Catholic piety and faithfulness in Europe is now Poland. Let’s hope the Poles keep faithful.
 
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I also would like to know more about it. It was a relatively Catholic country while ago. How is it now?
 
Thanks for posting this! It’s quite a long study. It looks like though, that there was never a mass grave found at Tuam?
 
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It’s quite a long study
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Not very happy reading, is it? Whether the chambered structure contains the remains of enough children to be termed a mass grave is still to be determined. Certainly there were hundreds of children interred (presumably) somewhere, and their handling seems grievously inappropriate.
The Country Leader of the Sisters of Bon Secours in Ireland provided an affidavit to the Commission in February 2018. This dealt with a range of issues including burial arrangements. She told the Commission that she does not know what the actual burial arrangements were. She said that the present Sisters are “shocked and devastated by what has come to light to date in relation to burials in the subsurface structure“
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For the rest of us, it is probably best, as I suggested, to await the end of the investigation and the subsequent report.
 
I actually think a lot of people already were not practicing by the time the scandals broke, but who really knows…
 
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