What happens when only one side defines hate

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Here is a truth. Get three or more groups together and at least two of those groups will band together to oppress the other group. That is why I am against a strong central government that can punish “hate groups”
 
Mark121359 said:
But to make those who had absolutely nothing to do with the sins of past generations pay for their mistakes,
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I don’t know of any proposal that talks makes this happen. What propsal can you point to that makes this happen?
Mark121359 said:
Can’t you comprehend the great division that this would add to an already deeply divided nation???
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There is no *good reason for a division on this matter. So let’s support what is good.
 
niceatheist said:
because an African-American won the presidency.
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Not true I recently learned.
Obama can claim to be “black” but doesn’t meet the criteria to be called “African American”

Identity politics are so convoluted. :crazy_face: 😜 🤔
 
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phil3 said:
Get three or more groups together and at least two of those groups will band together to oppress the other group. That is why I am against a strong central government that can punish “hate groups”
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Note that in the USA that hating and expressing hate towards a group are not a violation of the law. However if a crime is committed motivated by certain attributes of that person the sentencing for the crime can be of higher magnitude.
 
Theo520 said:
Obama can claim to be “black” but doesn’t meet the criteria to be called “African American”
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I don’t understand what you are trying to say.

Depending on context “black” and “African-american” can be synonyms.
 
Sticking an adjective and a hyphen in front of “American” seem to be a good way to divide rather than unite people. I don’t catalog myself as a Euro-American. A person of European origins who referred to themselves that way would probably have the “racist” logo assigned to them by those who lean left…
 
JW55 said:
I don’t catalog myself as a Euro-American.
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I think I am far more likely to see a person use something more specific, such as “Irish American” or “Italian American.” As I understand the term as it came into wide use many groups have a term that can be used to refer to their heritage or the places from which their ancestors came. I don’t think that most African Americans have the option of being more specific and tracing back their much earlier ancestry and the specific places in which their ancestors had lived; the continent is as specific as many can infer.
 
You missed the point.

We are American.
Not some hyphenated variation of American.

Unless the desire is to divide us.
 
vz71 said:
Placing a skin color above actual fact.
In what context could that be anything but racism?
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I’ll need to understand your usage of the word “racism” to understand your question. I also don’t know what you mean by “place above.”
 
ThinkingSapien said:
I don’t understand what you are trying to say.

Depending on context “black” and “African-american” can be synonyms.
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Per current usage, only someone descended from US slaves qualifies to be called African American. I too find it confusing, but that’s ‘intersectionality’ for ya.
Google “Kamala Harris” and “African American” to read the stories yourself.
 
Quite honestly, I very seldom heard those of European heritage referring to themselves with an adjective prefix, . The area I grew up in was mainly eastern European of either 1st, 2nd, or 3rd generation immigrants. I never remember anyone calling themselves a Russian-American, Polish-American, Serbian-American or Croatian-American. They wanted to assimilate and just be Americans.
 
vz71 said:
We are American.
Not some hyphenated variation of American.

Unless the desire is to divide us.
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Symbols mean different things to different people. I see some of that at play in the above. The effect that a specific notation has on people is going to in part depend on how it is used (or how it has been used). Phrases that would otherwise be innocuous have come to carry a negative connotation for having been used in certain ways. That said, someone’s intended usage will have to be considered on a case by case basis (context). If someone mentions that Mae Jemison was the first African-American woman in space I don’t think that many would take offense to it. Nor do I think it would be a sleight on the first woman in space or the first person in space.

There’s another conversation that could be had here on markedness of nouns especially when it comes to race, sex, and gender. But I don’t think this is the audience that would be receptive to such a discussion.
 
Zach said:
White supremacy no longer exists.
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Oh it’s still very much alive and well.

It is no longer embedded in our laws but it still very much exists in the hearts of some individuals.

Of course anyone can be a racist regardless of their race, ethnicity, nationality, sex, age or level of education.
 
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