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anon90438963
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The wife of the Scientology leader:
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BoomerangToo
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Same reason people get hooked on meth. In the beginning, it felt good.
I have read that when you get up to the highest level of Scientology (which few people achieve) you learn that L. Ron Hubbard is “God.”
Money laundering front.
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JanSobieskiIII
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Have you not heard operation Snow White?
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lilypadrees
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Tom Cruise. John Travolta. Celebrity influences. The need/desire to be “Clear.” L Ron Hubbard book(s) hype.
It’s all an illusion many of the religion’s devotees don’t realize until later and many more don’t see at all.
It’s all an illusion many of the religion’s devotees don’t realize until later and many more don’t see at all.
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Roguish
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What question? Not sure if you’re confusing me with another user, but I didn’t join this thread to find out about Scientology. I know them well enough based on my own interaction with them. When I saw the OP’s post, I was just curious as to why he is so convinced that they are evil, so I asked.
No!
I really think you have me confused with someone else, Bruised_Reed. I have never even come close to considering joining Scientology, nor did I ever ask people on CAF to provide “sources” for me.I’ve no idea what you’re talking about. What question am I still asking??
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CatholicDetroit
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I think it could be the self improvement aspect.
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Bruised_Reed
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Someone did ask what was so wrong with Scientology on the old version of CAF and in very much the same way. It’s just that in the last couple of years there is more information on what really goes on in Scientology. I feel as though I’m repeating myself: Go do reasearch. Read through that xenu site linked above. Read Leah’s book. If you really need more information beyond what was offered upthread why are you asking for indepth info on Scientology on a Catholic site?
Scientology doesn’t come up that often and I just think the way you are asking sounds like that person: somewhat skeptical of what people are telling you, no matter what information is put forth. Like you really don’t want to be convinced. If you haven’t asked before, fine.
See above (I was answering while you were editing).
Scientology doesn’t come up that often and I just think the way you are asking sounds like that person: somewhat skeptical of what people are telling you, no matter what information is put forth. Like you really don’t want to be convinced. If you haven’t asked before, fine.
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Bruised_Reed
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In my opinion, I don’t think either attract new people to Scientology. Elizabeth Moss is probably the most famous Scientologist right now and people who discover that she is a one either find themselves conflicted for admiring her or deciding immediately that they are no longer a fan.
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Roguish
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But I didn’t ask that!! This is turning into a hilarious exchange, really.Listen, I know Scientology fairly well because I have friends inside Scientology. I have never considered joining Scientology, but I do consider some of their practices and ideas to be alright, based on what I know from my friends. (I made this point earlier in the thread.) The only reason I commented in this thread is because most people that are against Scientology, are against it based only on what they’ve read about it on the web, or in a book, which I think is a bad way of forming an opinion of Scientology, or of anything. So I repeat: my only point has been that the internet/books alone are not a good way of evaluating Scientology. I don’t need sources, books, or anything, nor have I asked for them, and I’m not here to recommend Scientology. If any of my posts were worded in a way that gave that impression, please accept this post as a correction.
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goodcatholic
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goodcatholic
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OKI you could say Catholicism is a drug too that “hooks” people. Whether it be the stained glass windows or the romantic nature of a saints life like John of the Cross. But as most would agree, Catholicism has substance. You cant get more substance than “the truth”. And once you start agreeing to carry the cross, all the glamour starts to fade.It is then you need real grace to grow into spiritual maturity. ( saying to self, “but Ron you need to get off this forum in order to grow up”. )
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ShowersofRoses
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I wonder if this is the one you’re thinking of?
How should a Catholic respond to anti Church of Scientology viewpoints? Non-Catholic Religions
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Roguish
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Precisely. Because such groups do exist, even inside the RCC. Which was my original point. I agree that Scientology isn’t right. I’m just not too fond of the view that “they (Scientology in this case) are so manipulative and deceptive but we (the RCC) are free of such evils”. We’re not. Not completely anyway. Yes, the RCC is to be preferred over Scientology, of course, for many good reasons. But no, we cannot claim to be entirely free, either now or historically, of the evils that Scientology suffers from or has suffered from.
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Tis_Bearself
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The way I see it, the Church itself, as in the overall organization run by the Vatican, is generally not manipulative towards its followers. If anything, it is very impersonal to the point where it’s the opposite extreme.
It’s all these sub groups started by one priest or a couple of lay leaders in order to have a faith-sharing movement or for people in the group to supposedly encourage another along. Some of them seem okay but others of them really concern me and I am not sure why the Church is so tolerant of some of the behaviors.
It’s all these sub groups started by one priest or a couple of lay leaders in order to have a faith-sharing movement or for people in the group to supposedly encourage another along. Some of them seem okay but others of them really concern me and I am not sure why the Church is so tolerant of some of the behaviors.
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Roguish
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@goodcatholic How very true. And good point about getting off this forum too. A forum like this has to be phase that one grows out of. But at the risk of causing offense, I’ve been wondering lately if perhaps that extends to all of organized religion as well…
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Roguish
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True too!
That, but there are also some larger movements inside the RCC that I have found to be manipulative. Some have a lot of power, in fact. For me it’s been a reason to limit my praxis to plain-vanilla, parish-based Catholicism.
Me neither.
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goodcatholic
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I need to use this phrase for almost every post I make on CAF.
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goodcatholic
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How about this one?
“At the risk of not causing offence………”
At the risk of not causing offence, I will refrain from not insulting you.
“At the risk of not causing offence………”
At the risk of not causing offence, I will refrain from not insulting you.
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ShowersofRoses
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Maybe we should all say a daily Confeitor here on CAF.
I confess to almighty God and to you, my brothers and sisters, that I have greatly offended thee, in my posts and in my words, in what I have written, and what I have failed to write…
I confess to almighty God and to you, my brothers and sisters, that I have greatly offended thee, in my posts and in my words, in what I have written, and what I have failed to write…
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Dca2018
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I am not a Scientologist, nor will I ever be, but I have known a few. Most Scientologists believe in their faith and are trying to be good people, converting them to Christ does not start with labeling them as evil fools.
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