What [if any] social goods does atheism bring to the community table?

[CalmDownWisWins]

Are you referring to me… I do believe there is a …(thing) that is the creative thing in the universe. No God necessary…

You understand God as that “thing”. I understand God as GOD.

We actually agree. You simply have a different definition of God. Your God is a subset of my God.

Did you read both essays?

I like Kurzweil. I hope the singularity happens. I see no contradiction in believing in simultaneously believing in God and the singularity. Should the singularity actually happen, it would be a gift from God. The tricky bit is whether the apparatus which brings on the singularity is God directed, by true (authentic) Catholics, or by anyone else.

If it is brought to us by non-Catholics, it will cause a cataclysm which will anihilate those who try to “pass through” the singularity and reduce the rest of humanity to a tiny remnant.

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I’ve sometimes ask the question whether there is a God. I have answered, if you doubt the existence of God, take a look around. Imagine the world 3.8 billion years ago (origin of life), imagine it 500 million years ago (cambrian explosion), 3 million years ago (the dawn of Homo habilis and primative Olduwan tools), 10 thousand years ago (agriculture), 50 years ago (first computer and discovery of the structure of DNA), and now. If that isn’t evidence for the existence of God, I do not know what is.

I agree that the shear existence of the universe, and our ability to observe it without being destroyed while trying to do so, is really all the evidence for God that we need.

The revelation given by Him to humanity is just frosting on the cake, and our only REAL salvational “tool” because of the inherent “hard headedness” (hard heartedness) of humanity.

The only way the brute-of-mankind is overcome by the good-of-mankind is by way of listening to God in humilty in His “guise” of “conscience”, and with as powerful an intellect as possible in a state of abject worshipful prayer.

Any REAL scientist knows precisely what is meant by “prayerful inquiry” using the scientific method.

 

[PAR]

The atheists I have known (i can think of 4) have identified with atheism mostly because they had a lack of faith, not because they thought it was superior to Christianity at a social level.

But with some of the recent books criticizing Christianity as a sort of social evil, I would think atheists would be expected to present some alternative belief structure that was confirmed as more true and good by tangible fruits produced by atheism at the societal level. What are these fruits?

 

[PAR]

I would like to know about a person who does not belong to a church but believes in God. He hasn’t found any church that really is the right church for him they all have things that aren’t quite right and he has read the bible many times and can quote it so I can’t say he is an atheism at all but what can I do? I have been married to him to over 30 years and the Catholic Church he believes there are things that are wrong with it such as RICE Christians and he believes any church who allows to have them in there isn’t quite good religion so I need help in where to go with him. Thanks in advance.

 

[CalmDownWisWins]

I would like to know about a person who does not belong to a church but believes in God. He hasn’t found any church that really is the right church for him they all have things that aren’t quite right and he has read the bible many times and can quote it so I can’t say he is an atheism at all but what can I do? I have been married to him to over 30 years and the Catholic Church he believes there are things that are wrong with it such as RICE Christians and he believes any church who allows to have them in there isn’t quite good religion so I need help in where to go with him. Thanks in advance.

Do you mean RICE Chrispies? [Sorry! that was a cheap laugh.]

Look into why the Catholic Church is the original Church established by Christ Himself which has many people in it, just like all non-Catholic churches, who do and did evil things.

Find out what things he believes are “wrong” with the Church, and ask specifically for help explaining each of his misunderstandings from the apologists on the phone at Catholic Answers:

Apologetics Department
619-387-7200
Monday–Friday, 9 AM–5 PM, Pacific

or in these forums in the Apologetics section (Oh, that;'s where we’re at!), which is probably cheaper.

Ask specific questions whenever possible.