What if "gay" men die of AIDS far more than any other group of people?

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According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Centers for Disease Control, they do. And before anyone tries to say that getting AIDS is not so bad, would you volunteer to infect yourself with it?
HIV/AIDS and Men Who Have Sex with Men (MSM)
The term men who have sex with men (MSM) refers to all men who have sex with other men, regardless of how they identify themselves (gay, bisexual, or heterosexual). In the United States, HIV and AIDS have had a tremendous impact on MSM. Consider these facts:
• AIDS has been diagnosed for more than half a million MSM. Over 300,000 MSM with AIDS have died since the beginning of the epidemic.
• MSM made up more than two thirds (68%) of all men living with HIV in 2005, even though only about 5% to 7% of men in the United States reported having sex with other men.
For complex reasons, HIV/AIDS continues to take a high toll on the MSM population. For example, the number of new HIV/AIDS cases among MSM in 2005 was 11% more than the number of cases in 2001. Whatever the reasons, in 2005, MSM still accounted for about 53% of all new HIV/AIDS cases and 71% of cases in male adults and adolescents.
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HIV/AIDS and Men Who Have Sex with Men (MSM) (for the Public) | Topics | CDC HIV/AIDS
 
According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Centers for Disease Control, they do. And before anyone tries to say that getting AIDS is not so bad, would you volunteer to infect yourself with it?

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HIV/AIDS and Men Who Have Sex with Men (MSM) (for the Public) | Topics | CDC HIV/AIDS
This is common knowledge. It’s why blood banks don’t accept blood from gay men, and why they can’t donate organs.

Of course, the homosexual lobby cries discrimination, but seriously - they’d be crazy to take the risk.
 
I don’t understand the question.

Like bingbang said above… and?

In other words, what’s your point?
 
What was the last year that HIV-AIDS was discussed in the news, it’s as if this deadly disease no longer exists in the homosexual community.

MALE HOMOSEXUAL DISEASE RATES

web.archive.org/web/20010124040800/www.cprmd.org/Myth_Fact_004.htm

Conclusion:

Not only are homosexual men dying at young ages, but the amount of STDs, alcohol and drug abuse can only lead one to believe that the male homosexual lifestyle is anything but “gay”. In fact, if we are truly honest with ourselves, it is sad! Be a true friend to a homosexual, help them escape the “gay” lifestyle before it is too late. Take the path less traveled!
 
I’m guessing that these are US-specific statistics. Worldwide - in view of the disease rates in the “third world” - I would think that heterosexually-spread AIDS is an overall larger killer.
 
What was the last year that HIV-AIDS was discussed in the news, it’s as if this deadly disease no longer exists in the homosexual community.

MALE HOMOSEXUAL DISEASE RATES

web.archive.org/web/20010124040800/www.cprmd.org/Myth_Fact_004.htm

Conclusion:

Not only are homosexual men dying at young ages, but the amount of STDs, alcohol and drug abuse can only lead one to believe that the male homosexual lifestyle is anything but “gay”. In fact, if we are truly honest with ourselves, it is sad! Be a true friend to a homosexual, help them escape the “gay” lifestyle before it is too late. Take the path less traveled!
Gee…you think the fact you spend your life being told you are a freak, going to hell, having people disown you, wonder if you lose your job if people find out your sexual orientation, being bullied in school, and wondering if someone is going to beat or kill you because you walk about of the wrong bar in the wrong neighborhood might play in any role in the drug and alcohol use?
 
According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Centers for Disease Control, they do. And before anyone tries to say that getting AIDS is not so bad, would you volunteer to infect yourself with it?

Source:
HIV/AIDS and Men Who Have Sex with Men (MSM) (for the Public) | Topics | CDC HIV/AIDS
…yes its a horrible disease.Thats why hospitals will not knowingly accept blood from a homosexual,since it may well be contaminated! Thats the biggest argument against so called ‘gays’ in the military,the male side ! I also believe anyone who wants to serve and is qualified should be allowed to do so,but what about the blood angle? I have a fellow teacher friend who is a life guard at a large beach and he has refused to give mouth to mouth for any homosexual in need of it…he is afraid of catching a disease…I think there are other methods now anyway but again yes,aids is a horrible disease and we must pray for those who catch it.
 
Gee…you think the fact you spend your life being told you are a freak, going to hell, having people disown you, wonder if you lose your job if people find out your sexual orientation, being bullied in school, and wondering if someone is going to beat or kill you because you walk about of the wrong bar in the wrong neighborhood might play in any role in the drug and alcohol use?
Sexual identity disorders in young children are curable with psychiatric help. It’s unfortuneate that the homosexual agenda fights against getting these children the help they need.
 
I’m guessing that these are US-specific statistics. Worldwide - in view of the disease rates in the “third world” - I would think that heterosexually-spread AIDS is an overall larger killer.
Correct. The largest group dying of AIDS are heterosexual women in Africa. The second largest group is heterosexual men in Africa.

I do not think that there is a moral argument to be made here, unless it is that the rules of morality need to be different in the US from the rules in Africa.

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I have a fellow teacher friend who is a life guard at a large beach and he has refused to give mouth to mouth for any homosexual in need of it…he is afraid of catching a disease…I think there are other methods now anyway but again yes,aids is a horrible disease and we must pray for those who catch it.
We should probably start a separate thread to discuss the morality of your friend’s attitude. Is he really saying he would prefer his own health to the life of another human being? And how could he be trained in CPR and not know that it is impossible to get AIDS from performing rescue breaths on an HIV+ victim (assuming the victim doesn’t have any blood in his or her mouth)?

Anyway, after that distraction, I agree with the other posters on this thread: if the reason homosexual acts are bad were because they transmit HIV more often than heterosexual acts, then what could we say about homosexual acts if and when a cure for AIDS is discovered? If the acts are wrong, they can’t be wrong for no reason at all, so, if and when a cure was found, we would have to work out another argument. Thus, we might as well save time and start using this other argument sooner rather than later.
 
Sexual identity disorders in young children are curable with psychiatric help. It’s unfortuneate that the homosexual agenda fights against getting these children the help they need.
Do you have proof of this?
 
catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0045.html

When Boys Won’t Be Boys: Childhood Gender Indentity Disorder
DR. RICHARD FITZGIBBONS & DR. JOSEPH NICOLOSI

Gender identity problems, including cross-dressing, exclusive cross-gender play, and a lack of same-sex friends should be treated as a symptom that something may be wrong —very wrong.

The good news is that if gender identity problems are identified and addressed, and if both parents cooperate in the solution, many of the negative outcomes can be prevented. According to Dr. Kenneth Zucker and Susan Bradley, experts in the treatment of gender identity disorder (or GID) in children, treatment should begin as soon as possible:

In general we concur with those who believe that the earlier treatment begins, the better. . . . It has been our experience that a sizable number of children and their families can achieve a great deal of change. In these cases, the gender identity disorder resolves fully, and nothing in the children’s behavior or fantasy suggests that gender identity issues remain problematic. . . .

All things considered, however, we take the position that in such cases a clinician should be optimistic, not nihilistic, about the possibility of helping the children to become more secure in their gender identity.(1)
 
When Boys Won’t Be Boys: Childhood Gender Indentity Disorder
Of course, this has nothing to do with homosexuality. Gender identity is different than sexual orientation.
What was the last year that HIV-AIDS was discussed in the news, it’s as if this deadly disease no longer exists in the homosexual community.
News about HIV/AIDS is reported only a regular basis. Perhaps television news isn’t covering HIV more a couple times a year, but the news wires are full of the stories. Just check Google News or Yahoo News.
 
“Of course, this has nothing to do with homosexuality. Gender identity is different than sexual orientation.”

Gender identity disorders in children lead to same sex attraction in puberty and then into the homosexual lifestyle as preteens, teens and adulthood.

Those involved in the homosexual agenda, want to teach in public schools that same sex attraction and noncelibate sexual relationship are normal.

These relationships are not normal. These children, from a very young age are suffering with identity disorders.
 
Gender identity disorders in children lead to same sex attraction in puberty and then into the homosexual lifestyle as preteens, teens and adulthood.
What is your evidence for that claim?
 
“Of course, this has nothing to do with homosexuality. Gender identity is different than sexual orientation.”

Gender identity disorders in children lead to same sex attraction in puberty and then into the homosexual lifestyle as preteens, teens and adulthood.

Those involved in the homosexual agenda, want to teach in public schools that same sex attraction and noncelibate sexual relationship are normal.

These relationships are not normal. These children, from a very young age are suffering with identity disorders.
What do you have to support these claims? You posted an article from a catholic website by two doctors that doesn’t really say anything other than their own opinions. It isn’t a study or actual evidence, just what they think. Can you show me some actual studies that support your positions?
 
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