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reborn_pagan said:
…thats like me asking you what sects of christianity do you think is wrong and dangerous?

and the only pagan paths i think are pointless, are the goths who just want to upset mommy and daddy…thats not even a pagan path, just people who are posers

sense were on the subject, do you think any sects of christianity are dangerous?
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Touche. 😛

Any Christian sect can be dangerous - heck, you have one person here that seems to support the death penalty for people that leave the Church. :eek:
 
reborn_pagan said:
bieng a wiccan isnt all its cracked up you think it is…i do have rules telling me how to act, its the wiccan rede and code of chivelry… and i have to hide my beliefs from my parents cause i’ll probly either get kicked out the house or cut off from the world
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Would you die for your belief in wicca?
 
cheese_sdc said:
Touche. 😛

Any Christian sect can be dangerous - heck, you have one person here that seems to support the death penalty for people that leave the Church. :eek:
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wow…and people want me to be a christian lol 🙂

if your intrested in more crazy heads that claim to be christian look up

Becky Fischer (evanglical)
Shirley Phelps Roper (baptist)
 
Mr.Bee said:
I asked you first.

I would gladly step in front of a truck to save my child. Although, to be honest I might hesitate for my beliefs.

Hard question aint it?
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oooh yes, and i honestly dont have an answer to it…could be worse i could lie ya know?
 
I do not think I will ever be having children, as marriage just may not be among my calling in life, but if I were to have children I would try to talk them out of being anything but Catholic. As a Catholic parent, I would be obligated by my very Faith (the Church teachings are actually clear on it) to do everything in my power to raise my children Catholic.

I wouldn’t threaten to stop loving them nor to kick them out of the house, nor would it even remotely cross my mind to kill them :eek: (or anyone else in such a position) but anything that was innately Pagan wouldn’t be allowed in my home for any religious purposes (research, learning would be a different matter, perhaps–but if I knew my child was genuinely interested in converting, I’d even limit that; I would not allow Pagan worship in my home). Also, for as long as they were in my parental care, they would be subjected to Catholic teaching and reasoning, and I would be especially sensitive to ways to bring them back fully to the Catholic Faith…in fact, even when they were grown, anytime they visited my home, this would continue.

This would be true whatever alternate religion my child would try to follow. It’s not a matter of scolding or having my way, but I believe that once someone has the Truth (which Catholics obviously feel to be Catholicism; debating on whether or not that is so is completely off topic here) he/she is responsable for it, and just picking up and leaving shouldn’t be taken lightly…so as a parent, it would be my duty to try to guide my children to stay in the Truth (as I sincerely feel it to be) which they have known and learned.
 
reborn_pagan said:
oooh yes, and i honestly dont have an answer to it…could be worse i could lie ya know?
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Be glad your wicca then, it doesn’t ask you those kind of questions.

I need to clarify too before some idiot brings this up. Those terriosts did not die for their beliefs, they killed, theres a difference.
 
Apparently you folks didn’t like my quoting of the word of God.😛

Ah, merciful. What a nice concept. :o Brings a half-hearted smile to my face.

Did not Jesus say that He did not come to change the law?

Sometimes I wonder if Isreal wasn’t the best nation to be chosen, not that God didn’t know best mind you, it’s just that other people have shown more dedication and faithfullness than Israel. How could you turn from a God that saves you at the turn of a page and regularly shows himself, even talking to you! How little faith they had! A God in their midst and they refused to recognize Him!

Pagans…I really see the biggest threat to the Church is apostasy and heretical teachers using the name of the Church.

When we all dilute our ideals and concepts to match those of other religeons, the Harlot will have been born. I think Masons are she.
 
Clonereject1138 said:
Apparently you folks didn’t like my quoting of the word of God.😛

Ah, merciful. What a nice concept. :o Brings a half-hearted smile to my face.

Did not Jesus say that He did not come to change the law?
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Well, it seems that though fundamental right vs. wrong haven’t changed (for example it’s still wrong to commit adultery and it’s still wrong to leave the Faith) how we are supposed to respond to them has (it’s undeniably no longer proper for mere mortals, having ever sinned even once, to stone someone guilty of adultery or to kill a rebellious child).

The same word of God that said in one age “An eye for an eye,” says in the current age to “Turn the other cheek” 😉
 
reborn_pagan said:
would you die for your belief?
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I pray that God would give me the grace to die for my beliefs, if the situation arises. Let’s say for example, that I’m captured by some Islamic militants somewhere in the middle-east, and they give me the option of converting to Islam or being brutally murdered, then I would have to choose the second option. In theory, I would be happy (more than I can tell you) to die a martyr. I just don’t know if I’d have the courage!

As for dangerous Christian sects, I would say that the Westbro Baptist Church would certainly qualify. Also, the IRA aren’t great (although they’re not really Christian), but they are getting better. I would certainly think that there are others that qualify.
 
I certainly wouldn’t scold them, nor would I (blatantly) try and talk them out of it. I would ask them why they wanted to practice “so-called” paganism (so-called because today’s paganism isn’t the paganism of the ancient world), and I would gently insist on getting to the real reasons. Then I would ask what the ancient pagans knew when they converted to Christianity (it wasn’t at the point of the sword, except in rare instances), that my child might not know.
 
Clonereject1138 said:
Apparently you folks didn’t like my quoting of the word of God.😛
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Isaiah 42:
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    "Behold, My Servant, whom I uphold;
   My chosen one in whom My soul delights 
   I have put My Spirit upon Him;
   He will bring forth justice to the nations.
    "He will not cry out or raise His voice,
    Nor make His voice heard in the street.
    "A bruised reed He will not break
    And a dimly burning wick He will not extinguish;
    He will faithfully bring forth justice.*
I would be careful about mocking the mercy of God.
 
VociMike said:
I certainly wouldn’t scold them, nor would I (blatantly) try and talk them out of it. I would ask them why they wanted to practice “so-called” paganism (so-called because today’s paganism isn’t the paganism of the ancient world), and I would gently insist on getting to the real reasons. Then I would ask what the ancient pagans knew when they converted to Christianity (it wasn’t at the point of the sword, except in rare instances), that my child might not know.
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Thank you for this answer, it states what I feebly was trying to say earlier.
 
reborn_pagan said:
Once again i have another question for everyone in here 🙂

What if…your child came up to you, or you found out…that they were wanting to start practicing a form of Paganism

Would you scold them,try and talk them out of it,let it go thinking its just a phase…or if you have another way of maybe dealing with it, if so lemme know

your wiccan friend,

reborn;)

p.s. i apolgize for the smileys im in a very happy mood
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I asked my 15 y.o. son about wicca. He said there are some in his school that do it. I told him to stay away from it. Period. If he gets into it , he is not showing the maturity level it takes to even drive a car, so that would be out. Then I would tell him about my early teens when I dabbled in the occult , how I learned angelic script , read some deep books. How nothing good can come out of it. But, how it drives a wedge between God and the person practicing it. The few results that he might see are not from God. I would remind him of the vows he took in church at baptism, first communion, and confirmation, in which the whole court of God was witness to. If it would continue to be a problem , then we would go to our Priest and discuss it at length. I would do everything in my power to keep him from it. Tim
 
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I asked my 15 y.o. son about wicca. He said there are some in his school that do it. I told him to stay away from it. Period. If he gets into it , he is not showing the maturity level it takes to even drive a car, so that would be out. Then I would tell him about my early teens when I dabbled in the occult , how I learned angelic script , read some deep books. How nothing good can come out of it. But, how it drives a wedge between God and the person practicing it. The few results that he might see are not from God. I would remind him of the vows he took in church at baptism, first communion, and confirmation, in which the whole court of God was witness to. If it would continue to be a problem , then we would go to our Priest and discuss it at length. I would do everything in my power to keep him from it. Tim
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wow…people like you annoy me, just because your 15 year old is courious means he’s not mature enough?? sounds to me like your the one bieng immature here, god gave us all free will and he has that free will to do whatever he wants to do.

and when was he baptized?
 
Actually, he wasn’t curious, I was. He has been a Catholic since birth. Sorry you feel that way about me. Tim
 
reborn_pagan said:
wow…people like you annoy me, just because your 15 year old is courious means he’s not mature enough?? sounds to me like your the one bieng immature here, god gave us all free will and he has that free will to do whatever he wants to do.

and when was he baptized?
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reborn, I know where you are leading with this.
You are going to say as an infant when he was baptised he was too young to understand what he was committing to.
Maybe you should read up on Catholicism.
As an infant we are baptised and our Godparents make the promise to God to raise us as Catholics etc.
When we are confirmed, usually at age 12, we reaffirm what our Godparents said for us before we could talk, that is, our love for God, and our promise to do His will. We also receive the gift of the Holy Spirit at this time just as the Apostles did at Pentecost.

Being mature is KNOWING what to do with one’s own free will.
Doing whatever one wants to do with free will is immature.
 
kellie said:
reborn, I know where you are leading with this.
You are going to say as an infant when he was baptised he was too young to understand what he was committing to.
Maybe you should read up on Catholicism.
As an infant we are baptised and our Godparents make the promise to God to raise us as Catholics etc.
When we are confirmed, usually at age 12, we reaffirm what our Godparents said for us before we could talk, that is, our love for God, and our promise to do His will. We also receive the gift of the Holy Spirit at this time just as the Apostles did at Pentecost.

Being mature is KNOWING what to do with one’s own free will.
Doing whatever one wants to do with free will is immature.
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im sorry i just think that its wrong to raise a child in only one track, and im just wondering if only catholics are alowed to be godparents, cause im one for my friend’s daughter who is also named cody 🙂 but if something happens and im 18 i promised i would help take care of her…so would i be a godparent or just a helping hand ?
 
reborn_pagan said:
im sorry i just think that its wrong to raise a child in only one track
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There is only one God.

There may be many ways to worship Him, that is, through Catholicism, Protestantism, and Judaism, even though we all may disagree with the procedures in place with these religions.

When one decides to become a parent, and is fortunate enough to bear a child, one raises it with love and guidance.

This means instilling in it the belief of God.

Study up on socialisation reborn_pagan, you will find that the path you would take as a parent would lead the child to be highly unsocialised.

At 15, you are too young to understand this fully. We all are, which is why there are laws in place for ages of consent.
 
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