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HarveyL
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I meant “comfortable” as in understanding in a deep sense (as I wrote), as in love despite another’s sin or weakness. This is part of love’s essence. I don’t think He’d judge in the negative sense of that word.
What in your opinion is specifically wrong with modern American Television?
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HarveyL
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Yes, sin is sin but I’m not sure if that’s the issue here. If you recall, the original poster used what Jesus would be comfortable with on TV as a criteria and I simply think that Jesus is comfortable with all human behaviors, meaning understanding of them.
Perhaps simply stating that whatever is sinful would have made that person’s list of no-no criteria on TV. So, I’m just exploring the word “comfortable”, not sinful.
Perhaps simply stating that whatever is sinful would have made that person’s list of no-no criteria on TV. So, I’m just exploring the word “comfortable”, not sinful.
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Leo2014
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It has been a long time since I have turned on the television. I think one of the concern I have with the media, is that we become accepting of ideas that should not be acceptable. Than watching them in large consumption just makes us callous to those ideals. Example; cohabitation, couples living together outside of marriage. Television has turned this into such a non-issue that anyone that raises awareness is seen as unusual. Needless to say, monitor the programing in your home. It does make a difference in the way children grow up and whether they will embrace your morals or fight them. 
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You’re absolutely right. It took a long time to gradually poison us and make too many insensitive.It has been a long time since I have turned on the television. I think one of the concern I have with the media, is that we become accepting of ideas that should not be acceptable. Than watching them in large consumption just makes us callous to those ideals. Example; cohabitation, couples living together outside of marriage. Television has turned this into such a non-issue that anyone that raises awareness is seen as unusual. Needless to say, monitor the programing in your home. It does make a difference in the way children grow up and whether they will embrace your morals or fight them.
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Or worse - indifferent to good, healthy morals, and accepting of immorality as “just one of those things.”
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edwest2
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On a Catholic Forum you will get the Catholic Answer. “Comfortable” does not matter. Following God’s Commandments do. Jesus said: “If you love me keep my commandments.”
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Yes, He understands our fallen natures. That we were all born with Original Sin. But like a good father, He does not want us to sin. Or enter a state where “It’s all good.” There is right and wrong. For our own good, we are not allowed to see or hear everything even if we have become comfortable with it.
God’s way is best.
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HarveyL
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Yes, sin is sin but I’m not sure if that’s the issue here. If you recall, the original poster used what Jesus would be comfortable with on TV as a criteria and I simply think that Jesus is comfortable with all human behaviors, meaning understanding of them.
Perhaps simply stating that whatever is sinful would have made that person’s list of no-no criteria on TV. So, I’m just exploring the word “comfortable”, not sinful.
Perhaps simply stating that whatever is sinful would have made that person’s list of no-no criteria on TV. So, I’m just exploring the word “comfortable”, not sinful.
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HarveyL
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It is impractical to avoid viewing all sin. A TV show defined as pornography is obvious, but one defined as News may not be so and may depict sinful acts. A TV show on Evolution may be, for some, a form of sin but it’s, in fact, science education and it’s important for us to understand its principals, at least to confirm ours.
I think it’s a fine line and the line may be blurry, even among the most ardent. Not understanding certain things (like scientific subjects for instance) results in the kind of blindness that undermines a believer’s ability to confirm their faith, at times. Not knowing about crime may undermine one’s ability to fight it, though the crime is sinful. Viewing or reading about such things has the potential to help avoiding its growth and, so, it’s important to be careful about what one chooses to not see.
A lot depends on the purpose of the TV program.
I think it’s a fine line and the line may be blurry, even among the most ardent. Not understanding certain things (like scientific subjects for instance) results in the kind of blindness that undermines a believer’s ability to confirm their faith, at times. Not knowing about crime may undermine one’s ability to fight it, though the crime is sinful. Viewing or reading about such things has the potential to help avoiding its growth and, so, it’s important to be careful about what one chooses to not see.
A lot depends on the purpose of the TV program.
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Kay_Cee
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Understanding something is not the same as being comfortable with it.
I love my children, but I am not comfortable with them doing something wrong.
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Kay_Cee
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I also found these words of Jesus in the gospel: “But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of*** judgment***. For by your words you shall be justified, and by your words you shalt be condemned.” (Matthew 12:36-37)
If we have to account for just idle words, how much more will we have to account for obscene ones?
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Leo2014
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You know…
We are never going to be completely sinless, but each of us has discernment. The issue is being complacent when we encounter it or not even making the effort avoid sin. Goodness, if you have cable television - you are actually paying in support of the programming. I would not consider the News an issue. However, I personally don’t like the attention some subjects receive on News channels; traffic accidents, shootings and violent outrages. I prefer to receive my News via the Internet where it is interactive and I can select the subject I wish.
In regards to the viewer(s) educating themselves, I find the most educated people I encounter don’t watch television and gain their education through research and study. Sitting through hours of mindless hours of viewing isn’t going to provide much of an education.
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HarveyL
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I, too, receive a lot of news and information on the Net, as well as from books and magazines. But there are many who don’t do this and, for them, my comments are most applicable. Yet, there are TV programs that offer worthwhile viewing; it’s not all bad and some of it excellent.
Of course my original comment addressed some of the other aspects of television viewing and my subsequent comments simply focused on the point I was making regarding what one may consider sinful on television and may be useful to view nonetheless.
Of course my original comment addressed some of the other aspects of television viewing and my subsequent comments simply focused on the point I was making regarding what one may consider sinful on television and may be useful to view nonetheless.
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Leo2014
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I agree that there are worthwhile programming on television. I was just attempting to point out is that many of the programs are in “poor taste”. Television helps to shape our views on morality. It’s easier to see if you compare programing from years past to the present.
Another example; on Sunday, we are taught of the sanctity of life. Yet, when you go home and turn on the televisions, there are so many programs available to you that questions the teachings you are provided on Sunday. Now, a television that has your attention for more than one hour a week is obviously going to be a greater influence and more persuasive.
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HarveyL
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Television viewing may be more influential on one’s morals for some than for others…maybe. There’s an effective counter argument to this which states, with evidence, that “art” both influences and mirrors. I think it, generally (not always) mirrors more than influences.
Still, in my view, that’s the price of freedom and I wouldn’t be happy with the alternatives. As such, there’s always the channel changer, etc.
Still, in my view, that’s the price of freedom and I wouldn’t be happy with the alternatives. As such, there’s always the channel changer, etc.
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mikekle
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I dont think he is comfortable with sin, but keep in mind, he does allow Satan to do quite a bit, and he ‘allowed’ Satan to go on doing this in the first place, when he could have just turned him to dust when he rebelled, and then he would have had a world without sin.
God could have created this world of ours any way he likes, he controls everything, always has, and always will. The modern state of our world and tv is a big reflection of that, is just a sinful world progressing, if God is truly that uncomfortable with sin, he can change the game anytime.
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Kay_Cee
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God does not interfere with our free will. He allows us to choose whether we will love Him or not, since love cannot be forced.
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Leo2014
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You know…look at how expensive commercial time can be during your favorite programming. Advertisers are banking that the messages along with the images they present will influence your decision making process. True, they won’t sell to everyone. But they feel that they grab enough of the viewers to make it worth their investment.
I agree with you - I want to make the decision on what I decide to watch and not some “Big Brother” theocracy. However, it is important to the wellness of our family, friends and our influence on society that we do establish guidelines within ourselves. I think most of us don’t want our children watching programming that propagates poor morals - especially when it becomes apparent that they are the by-product of their surroundings.
Certainly we can change the channel - I hope you do.
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NM505StKate
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A lot of the “it used to be better back in the day” is rose coloured glasses.
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Leo2014
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We all have a tendency to romanticize the past; everything was so much better. The reality is that there were just as many challenges and struggles to confront. I think it is fair to make objective comparisons. Have you ever asked a young person’s perspective on a program from yester-years? Especially one you like? They will most likely not see it from the same perspective that you carry, but it doesn’t mean that they are wrong…
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tomarin
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My kids just adore ‘Happy Days’ so I guess you are right.We all have a tendency to romanticize the past; everything was so much better. The reality is that there were just as many challenges and struggles to confront. I think it is fair to make objective comparisons. Have you ever asked a young person’s perspective on a program from yester-years? Especially one you like? They will most likely not see it from the same perspective that you carry, but it doesn’t mean that they are wrong…
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