What is fueling imaginary hate crimes?

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I think the problem we have is that News Organizations are not held to their word. They can “shame” people very successfully.
 
Easy: people want to be victims for show and tell and it can be financially profitable.

Same old personal selfishness repackaged under the guise of liberalism.
 
I was just reading an old article about how a woman lied about a BLM supporter breaking into her house :rotfl:

People want some sort of sick validation for their feelings, as if the world is not messed up enough. People on social media also believe in everything you post, so there is also the temptation to fabricate news to get support.
 
People want attention?

I remember Tawana Brawley from the 1980’s who claimed falsely to have been raped and kidnapped by a gang of white men.

It turns out she lied because she had gone someplace without permission and made this up in order to not get in trouble with her parents.

I also remember Susan Smith, who killed her sons by drowning them, she blamed a non existent black man.

Now we have internet and stories can get attention pretty quickly.

It’s easier for people to get attention this way.
 
If you are going to bash a movement or group by the behavior of an individual or part of an institution. Let me mention a few things that are close to my Catholic background.

Item number one the Archdioceses of Milwaukee and its response to the sex scandals . It moved a ridiculous amount of money into the cemetery trust fund to protect it from being available in the Bankruptcy they later declared.

nytimes.com/2013/07/02/us/dolan-sought-vatican-permission-to-shield-assets.html
wsj.com/articles/appeals-court-overturns-ruling-on-milwaukee-catholic-cemetery-trust-1425949192
fox6now.com/2015/03/10/archdiocese-mike-lowe/

Mind you, all of my grandparents, at least 7 of my Great Aunts and Uncles, and the 3 of my Aunts and Uncle that have died so far.are buried there. I know the cemetery well and it is immaculately maintained. Even more importantly the Archbishop at the time was Timothy Dolan now the Archbishop of New York…I’m sure many of you know he is or is one the most prominent leaders in US Catholicism. This is a man who could be Pope.

After being forced to make this money available to its creditors, the Archdiocese settled for $21 of $55 million.

fox6now.com/2015/08/04/archdiocese-of-milwaukee-21m-settlement-reached-to-compensate-clergy-sex-abuse-survivors/

Then we have his predecessor Archbishop Rembert Weakland, the Archbishop I grew up under. He used $450k of diocesan funds to cover up his gay relationships.

web.archive.org/web/20090515135544/http://www.nationalreview.com/dreher/dreher052402.asp
web.archive.org/web/20070311034132/http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=47750

Would you prefer I write off the Catholic Church based on this? This is not just a few individual bad apples, these are the LEADERs (a very important one at that) of the Diocese I grew up in. Becareful of what you dismiss.
 
PJH_74 said:
If you are going to bash a movement or group by the behavior of an individual or part of an institution. Let me mention a few things that are close to my Catholic background.

Item number one the Archdioceses of Milwaukee and its response to the sex scandals . It moved a ridiculous amount of money into the cemetery trust fund to protect it from being available in the Bankruptcy they later declared.

nytimes.com/2013/07/02/us/dolan-sought-vatican-permission-to-shield-assets.html
wsj.com/articles/appeals-court-overturns-ruling-on-milwaukee-catholic-cemetery-trust-1425949192
fox6now.com/2015/03/10/archdiocese-mike-lowe/

Mind you, all of my grandparents, at least 7 of my Great Aunts and Uncles, and the 3 of my Aunts and Uncle that have died so far.are buried there. I know the cemetery well and it is immaculately maintained. Even more importantly the Archbishop at the time was Timothy Dolan now the Archbishop of New York…I’m sure many of you know he is or is one the most prominent leaders in US Catholicism. This is a man who could be Pope.

After being forced to make this money available to its creditors, the Archdiocese settled for $21 of $55 million.

fox6now.com/2015/08/04/archdiocese-of-milwaukee-21m-settlement-reached-to-compensate-clergy-sex-abuse-survivors/

Then we have his predecessor Archbishop Rembert Weakland, the Archbishop I grew up under. He used $450k of diocesan funds to cover up his gay relationships.

web.archive.org/web/20090515135544/http://www.nationalreview.com/dreher/dreher052402.asp
web.archive.org/web/20070311034132/http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=47750

Would you prefer I write off the Catholic Church based on this? This is not just a few individual bad apples, these are the LEADERs (a very important one at that) of the Diocese I grew up in. Becareful of what you dismiss.
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Strawman argument. No one is judging anyone or any movements.
 
phil19034 said:
It’s all part of the Saul Alinsky play book
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Alinsky seems to be a favorite bogeyman of some conservatives (although some actually found it useful).

Let me ask you something, have you ever read Alinsky? Have you read Rules for Radicals? It’s not only leftists who used the tactics described in it, you know – it was favored by Tea Party leaders as well.
 
I’m sorry to say, but anyone who believes racial hatred is “imaginary” isn’t living on the same planet I am.

And please believe me, I’m quite jealous about it.
 
What is fueling imaginary hate crimes?

First, we can look at who the United States has elected as President as a crystal clear symptom and indicator. People have been dumbed down to such an abysmal level that they’ve become morally vacant to the point that they may as well be farm animals. Anyone suicidal enough to turn on a television set can easily verify this in less than ten seconds. And then too, we live in a tattle tale society where people are trained and conditioned to rat out their fellow man, and where idiotic, fanciful paranoia is hailed as “being a responsible citizen”. See something, say something. From the earliest age, American children are taught to watch their parents and call the police if they have any information on them committing petty crimes. It’s just a sick and loathsome country, and we’ve allowed the lowest common denominator to dominate the media and run wild with it. So we just have racist nitwits running around everywhere, who in their stupidity honestly believe their righting social wrongs by inventing “hate crimes”.

And it’s nothing new either, because I remember a few kids in elementary school accusing other kids of different races of what would now be called “hate crimes”. And I also remember being completely mystified as to why someone would manufacture such an extremely unusual lie. I didn’t even understand that skin colors were significant to some people. I could have more easily grasped calculus and trigonometry than I could have fathomed something unknown like the concept of race hatred. The entire notion didn’t even register with me until many, many years later, at which time I realized that these five and six year kids must have been very carefully trained and coached by their parents.
 
Exiled_Child said:
What is fueling imaginary hate crimes?

First, we can look at who the United States has elected as President …

…with me until many, many years later, at which time I realized that these five and six year kids must have been very carefully trained and coached by their parents.
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Thanks!
 
PJH_74 said:
“Imaginary hate crimes” sounds pretty judgemental to me. One person’s strawman is another’s call for empathy.
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:rotfl:

Except it’s not judgmental because they’ve been proven false.

Call for empathy? As a minority living in America right now, I’ve seen this sniveling left-wing empathy first-hand in my PM box.

Let’s just say I’m not impressed and don’t believe a word of it…and it’s quite the opposite of what it sounds like on the surface.
 
PJH_74 said:
“Imaginary hate crimes” sounds pretty judgemental to me. One person’s strawman is another’s call for empathy.
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Ah but you see, it means exactly what it’s called, so it’s honestly not judgmental.

Both left and the right use this, of course. To say only one side uses this nonsense is to be extremely biased. There are, however, more instances from the left during the elections to portray conservatives as villains. And hate crimes against the right are usually so covered up and hushed about it that they hardly make the news-real or not. Or it immediately gets labeled as a lie because there’s always that group of people that will be openly hateful and annoying.

I’ll never understand why people use this. It honestly doesn’t do anybody justice. People making up instances of hate crimes do not realize that their actions only hurt themselves. You already see people constantly doubting each other when an actual hate crime occurs. You see people calling it fake news. How on earth does that help anything? Besides a few thousand retweets from people that are too young to vote? :confused:
 
I know that Munchausen syndrome was discussed in relation to Rachel Dolezal, as she falsely claimed that she was the victim of eight hate crimes.
 
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