What is Islam?

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Faith — What Does it Mean?
Faith is what we have described in the foregoing discussion as 'Knowledge and Belief. The Arabic word lman, which we have rendered in English as faith, literally means ‘to know’, ‘to believe’ and ‘to be convinced beyond the least shadow of doubt’. Faith, thus, is firm belief arising out of knowledge and conviction. And the man who knows and reposes unshakable belief in the Unity of God, in His Attributes, in His Law and the Revealed Guidance, and in the Divine Code of Reward and Punishment is called Mu’min (faithful). This faith invariably leads man to a life of obedience and submission to the Will of God. And one who lives this life of submission is known as Muslim.

It is therefore clear that without faith (lman) no man can be a true Muslim. It is the indispensable essential; rather, the very starting point, without which no beginning can be made. The relation of Islam to lman is the same as of a tree to its seed. As a tree cannot sprout forth without its seed, in the same way it is not possible for a man who has no belief to start with, to become a ‘Muslim’. On the other hand, just as it can happen that, in spite of sowing the seed, the tree may, for many reasons, not grow, or if it does grow, its development may be impaired or retarded, in the same way, a man may have faith, but due to a number of weaknesses, he may not become a true and staunch Muslim.

From the viewpoint of Islam and lman, men may be classified into four categories:

1.Those who have firm faith — a faith that makes them whole-heartedly submit to God. They follow the way of God and devote themselves heart and soul to seeking His pleasure by doing all that He likes and by avoiding all that He dislikes. In their devotion they are even more fervent than is the common man in pursuit of wealth and glory. Such men are true Muslims.
  1. Those who do have faith, who believe in God, His Law and the Day of Judgement, but whose faith is not deep and strong enough to make them totally submit to God. They are far below the rank of true Muslims, deserve punishment for their defaults and misdeeds, but are still Muslims. They are wrongdoers but not rebels. They acknowledge the Sovereign and His Law and, although they are violating the Law, they have not revolted against the Sovereign. They admit His supremacy and their own guilt. Thus they are guilty and deserve punishment, but Muslims they remain.
3.Those who do not possess faith at all. These people refuse to acknowledge the sovereignty of God and are rebels. Even if their conduct is not bad and even if they are not spreading corruption and violence, they remain rebels and their apparent good deeds are of little value. Such men are like outlaws. Sometimes outlaws may act in accordance with the laws of the land, but this does not make them loyal and obedient citizens; in the same way the apparent good deeds of those who revolt against God cannot compensate for the gravity of the real wrongs, revolt and disobedience.

4 Those who neither possess faith nor do good deeds. They spread disorder in the world and perpetrate all kinds of violence and oppression. They are the worst of the people; for they are both rebels and wrongdoers and criminals.

The above classification of mankind shows that the real success and salvation of man depends on faith (lman). The life of obedience (Islam) takes its birth from the seed of lman. This Islam of a person may be flawless or defective. But without lman there can be no Islam. Where there is no Iman there is no Islam. Where there is no Islam there is Kufr. Its form and nature may vary, but it remains Kufr and nothing but Kufr.

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How to Acquire Knowledge of God?

Now the question arises of how to acquire knowledge of and belief in God, His Attributes, His Law and the Day of Judgement?

We have already referred to the countless manifestations of God around us and in our own selves, which bear witness to the fact that there is One and only One Creator and Governor of this Universe and it is He Who controls and directs it. These manifestations reflect the divine attributes of the Creator: His great wisdom. His all-embracing knowledge, His omnipotence, His mercy. His all-sustaining power — in short His attributes can be traced everywhere in His works. But man’s intellect and capacity for knowledge have erred in observing and understanding them. Some men have argued that there are two gods, others have professed belief in a trinity, and still others have succumbed to polytheism. Some have worshipped nature and others divided the Creator into the gods of rain, air, fire, life, death and so on.

Similarly, men have put forward many erroneous notions about life after death; for instance, that man is reduced to dust after death and will not rise to life again; or that man is subject to a process of continuous regeneration in this world and is punished or rewarded in future cycles of life.

Even greater difficulty arises when we come to the question of a code of living. To formulate a complete and balanced code that conforms to God’s pleasure merely using human reason is an extremely difficult task. Even if a man is equipped with the highest faculties of reason and intellect and possesses matchless wisdom and experience, the chances of his formulating the correct views on existence are slight. And even if, after a lifetime of reflection, he does in fact succeed he will still lack the confidence that he has really discovered the truth and adopted the right path.

The fullest and fairest test of man’s wisdom, reason and knowledge might have been to have left him to his own resources without any external guidance. But this would have meant that only those with the determination and ability to find the path of truth would find salvation. God, therefore, spared His human creatures such a hard test. Through His Grace and Benevolence He raised for mankind men from among themselves to whom He imparted the true knowledge of His attributes, revealed to them His Law and the Right Code of Living, gave them the knowledge of the meaning and purpose of life and of life after death and thus showed them the way by which man can achieve success and eternal bliss.

These chosen men are the Messengers of God — His Prophets. God has communicated knowledge and wisdom to them by means of revelation (Wahi), and the book containing the Divine Communications is called the Book of God, or the Word of God. The test of man’s wisdom and intellect therefore lies in this: does he recognise God’s Messengers after observing their pure and pious lives and carefully studying their noble and flawless teachings? A man of wisdom and common sense would accept instructions given by the Messengers of truth. If he denies the Messengers of God and their teachings, his denial would signify that he was devoid of the capacity to discover truth and righteousness. He would fail his test. Such a man will never be able to discover the truth about God and His Law and life after death.

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Faith in the Unknown / Unseen

It is an everyday experience that when you do not know a thing, you look for somebody who does know. If you get ill and you cannot treat and cure yourself, you go to a doctor and follow his instructions without question. Why? Because he is properly qualified to give medical advice, possesses experience and has treated and cured a number of patients. Similarly, in matters of law you accept whatever a legal expert says and act accordingly.

In educational matters you trust in your teacher. When you want to go to some place and do not know the way, you ask somebody who knows it, and follow the way he points out. In short, the course that you adopt in your day-to-day life about matters, which you do not or cannot know, is that you approach someone who does know about them, accept his advice and act accordingly. You make every effort to select the proper person. But from then on you accept his advice unquestioningly. This kind of belief is called “belief in the unknown” (Iman-bi’l-ghayb).

Iman-bi’l-ghayb signifies that you get knowledge of what was not known to you from one who knows. You do not know God and His real attributes. You are not aware that His angels are directing the machinery of the whole Universe according to His orders, and that they surround you on all sides. You have not the proper knowledge of the way of life through which you can seek the pleasure of your Creator. And you are in the dark about the life to come. Such knowledge is given to you by the Prophets, who have had direct contact with the Divine Being. They are the persons whose sincerity, integrity, trustworthiness, godliness and absolute purity stand as irrevocable witnesses to the truth of their claim to knowledge. And above all, the wisdom and force of their message makes you admit that they speak the truth and deserve to be believed and followed.

This conviction of yours is Iman-bi’l-ghayb. Such a truth-discerning and truth-acknowledging attitude is essential for obedience to God and for acting in accordance with His pleasure; for you have no other medium than God’s Messengers for the achievement of true knowledge, and without true knowledge you cannot proceed on the path of Islam.

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RyanL:
My God conquered death. How about yours? You “left” christianity because you never knew Jesus - plain and simple. If you’ve don’t know Jesus, you’ve got no Jesus. If you’ve got no Jesus, you’re no christian. Plain and simple. And Mack, you don’t know Jesus.
whether your god conquered death or not is irrelevant. the fact of the matter is is that you believe God died. and as i mentioned in my previous post, my God is ever-living and NEVER dies. as for why i left christianity, you can deduce whatever conclusions you wish 👍 , as i said earlier, i could care less.
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RyanL:
May you never have to justify your blasphemy to David, much less Jesus. Repent, and come home. Quit being a douche - COME HOME! It’s not too late to be the man Jesus wants you to be!
as i stated earlier, islamic belief is that jesus called his people to the worship of Allah alone, without associating any partners or equals to Him in that worship. according to islamic belief i am the man jesus wants me to be. and i pray Allah allows me to die in that condition as well.
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RyanL:
  1. Apparently no one understood His message. According to the Muslims, how could Jesus have transmitted His message if no one understood it?!?
well, apparently there are some people who would beg to differ… before nicea, prepared by two ex-christian converts to islam. (download it whole or in parts, your choice. you’ll need acrobat reader).
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RyanL:
  1. YOU claim that Moses’ whole purpose was to call Pharoah. I claim that Moses had an entirely different role in salvation history. Don’t try and take down my theology with your misconceptions!
and where is this claim made?? i think you need better reading glasses. either that, or stop making assumptions about the things you read. i simply asked you if you’re suggesting moses failed in calling pharoah. where did i say this was the only thing he was sent to do?

as for taking down your theology, if you feel that’s what i’m doing by clearing up misconceptions posted up about my religion, then so be it. do you really feel that threatened by islam???
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RyanL:
If you are thinking that I have treated you poorly by calling you a douche all through this…well…you’re right! Understand that quotes like the one above show me that you are acting like a petulant child; I have treated you the same way I would treat my brother (whom I love dearly!) if he were acting like a child. If you were validly baptized (as you have claimed - which includes not presenting an obstacle like a disbelief in the Trinity), God has left an indullable mark on your soul. If this is the case, you are my separated brother. I hope that I have shocked you into considering what you have said in your posts, and have let you know that even though I may say things that are not-nice, I am rebuking you out of love. God the Father loves you. Jesus loves you. The Holy Spirit loves you. I love you.

Be the man God wants you to be, and put aside childish things!
man, i’m sorry… i don’t mean any disrespect by saying this, but i had to laugh at that first bit. you think calling me a douche is treating me poorly? i’ve been called worse - heck, even by fellow muslims that have unjustly accused me partisanship, bigotry and heresy. i’ve even been called a disbeliever by one fanatic muslim. honestly, you can say whatever you like about me, treat me however you wish. doesn’t bother me in the least bit… the prophets and messengers were treated a lot worse by their peoples than any mistreatment that i encounter. they were patient through their trials… compared to what they faced, what i go through is nothing.

as for shocking me to contemplate about what i’ve written, again, i’m sorry, but you’re going to have to do a better job than that. right now, as it stands, someone’s going to have to come with a pretty impecible and amazingly stunning argument to beat what i’ve seen from islam - and to tell you the truth, i don’t think that’s going to be happening anytime soon.
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RyanL:
May God lead you to the fullness of truth, and have mercy on you for your sins (and mercy on me for mine)
i ask Allah for the same - for both you and myself - that He guide us to the truth, wherever it lies and that He opens our hearts to accept it and gives us the strength to follow it…

btw, i thought you believed that jesus died for your sins. if that’s the case and he did, then why would you ask for God to have mercy on you for yours when jesus has already died for them and you’ve practically had all accountability lifted off your shoulders? :confused:
 
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Booklover:
He is the exact opposite of God and he loves nothing more than to guide people into sin, especially serious sins so that people will be damned. He’s always out there to catch the unwary. Don’t understimate the power of evil, it’s considerable, but God, the source of all goodness is the greatest power of all!
Satan is NOT the exact opposite of God. He was created a perfect angel, that fell from heaven due to jealousy. I do agree his thoughts, actions and intentions are the exact opposite of God. You also need to re-read what Jesus said. Matt 28:18. And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

The only power Satan has is what we allow him to have. This last sentence is only my opinion.
 
Thank you very much Respected Ye-are-Gods.
I beg to be excused for summarizing the text.
In a brief we get the following text from the table # 73.

Ye-are-Gods said:
Islam — What Does it Mean?

Islam
is an Arabic word and connotes submission, surrender and obedience. As a religion, Islam stands for complete submission and obedience to Allah. Another literal meaning of the word Islam is "peace’ …

— for Islam signifies nothing but obedience and submission to Allah, the Lord of the Universe.
 
With due apology , I am very much confused with the following statement.
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Ye-are-Gods:
Even a man who refuses to believe in God, or offers his worship to someone other than Allah, has necessarily to be a ‘Muslim’ as far as his existence is concerned.
 
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Ye-are-Gods:
**In short, man has been bestowed with free will.

As far as the second aspect is concerned, he is free to become or not to become a Muslim. It is the way a person exercises this freedom, which divides mankind into two groups: believers and non-believers. An individual, who chooses to acknowledge his Creator, accepts Him as his real Master, honestly and scrupulously submits to His laws and injunctions and follows the code. He has achieved completeness in his Islam by consciously deciding to obey God in the domain in which he was endowed with freedom of choice. He is a perfect Muslim: his submission of his entire self to the will of Allah is Islam and nothing but Islam.
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Very true. So real interpretation of Islam has become necessary.
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shamsery wrote:

*With due apology , I am very much confused with the following statement.

** “Even a man who refuses to believe in God, or offers his worship to someone other than Allah, has necessarily to be a ‘Muslim’ as far as his existence is concerned”.** *

In my view you confusion is due to not paying enough attention to what was mentioned prior to the statement that you qouted.

The first literal meaning of the word Islam is obviously submission or surrendering. Submitting or surrendring what? and to who? Ofcourse to the One who created all of us, the whole universe, the God Almighty. As far as this submision is concerned, existence/body of each and every person is a muslim. It means the each and every particle of our physical body (existence) is under the law of God Almighty. If you eat healthy food and do proper excercise your body will be healthy. If you eat poison, you will die. So as far as doing physically good or bad is concerned our body reacts as per the Law of God Almighty that is placed already. But we do not see the Law. What we see is the result. And the result of our physical actions makes us believe that there is something as LAW or PRINCIPLE that is in progress and our existence is under control of it. Obviously it is not an external thing by someone else but it is from Him who created our most complicated body with a specific plan in His mind.

So the functionality of our existence is already surrendered to His will, because we did not create ourselves nor we are capable to change the Law that is placed in our bodies. We were non-existent prior to our birth. We did not come into this world by ourselves. Our body is not our own property. It is belonged to Him who created us.

You may ask then what is it in our existence that by not surrendering it, makes someone Non-Surrender (Non-Muslim)?

It is our will and choice that is left alone by our Creator.

So if your will and choice also surrender to the Law of God Almighty ( the Holy Quran) then you are called a Muslim as far as your will and choice is concerned. Accepting the Law of God Almighty makes you a complete submitted person and there will be a perfect harmony between your physical existence’s submission and your will’s submission and the result : the Law of God Almighty will always be in your favour and posotive. But this harmony and favour of our Creator is directly in proportion to how much we follow His Law after accepting the truth of Islam. In other words the more you follow the more you are called a perfect surrenderer ( a perfect Muslim).

It is in the same sense that once the Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) said that **“No babe is born but upon Fitra (as a Muslim). It is his parents who make him a Jew or a Christian or a Polytheist.” ** (Sahih Muslim, Book 033, Number 6426)

 
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r.gonzales:
greetings.

ok, you tell me then. where in today’s bible is the gospel of jesus (not the gospel according to matthew, mark, luke or john]
Jesus never wrote a gospel! Where do you get that idea?😦
 
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Faith101:
I am just curious to know…as you are a worshipper of God, what do you find about the following verse that Fatuma posted to be “blah blah blah”…

He is God; there is no god but He. He is the Knower of the unseen and the visible; He is the All-Merciful, the All-Compassionate. He is God; there is no god but He. He is the King, the All-Holy, the All-Peace, the Guardian of the Faith, the All-Preserver, the All-Mighty, the All-Compeller, the All-Sublime. Glory be to God, above that they associate! He is God, the Creator, the Maker, the Shaper. To Him belong the Names Most Beautiful. All that is in the heavens and the earth magnifies Him; He is the Almighty, the All-Wise. (59:22-24)
The same things over and over trying to disprove the Blessed Trinity! I tried to explain in another post that there is nothing that God cannot do, that the Trinity was revealed to us, but you Muslims keep saying that you only believe that which you understand!
 
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Booklover:
The same things over and over trying to disprove the Blessed Trinity! I tried to explain in another post that there is nothing that God cannot do, that the Trinity was revealed to us, but you Muslims keep saying that you only believe that which you understand!

We believe in an all powerful God to whom nothing is impossible, but it seems that your God’s powers are limited only to what Muslims can understand or that which makes sense to them! Everything we try to explain to you falls on deaf ears!😦 After a while we just get tired of it. It seems like such a waste of time.

Vickie
 
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Booklover:
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Booklover:
The same things over and over trying to disprove the Blessed Trinity! I tried to explain in another post that there is nothing that God cannot do, that the Trinity was revealed to us, but you Muslims keep saying that you only believe that which you understand!

We believe in an all powerful God to whom nothing is impossible, but it seems that your God’s powers are limited only to what Muslims can understand or that which makes sense to them! If you want to believe in a God with human limitations, then everything we say to the contrary will fall on deaf ears and be a waste of time!

Vickie :o

Sorry, I’ve been trying to edit this message several times that’s why there are several of the same.
 
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Booklover:
Sorry, I’ve been trying to edit this message several times that’s why there are several of the same.
I’ve had it happen to me a few times too! :o
 
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Booklover:
Jesus never wrote a gospel! Where do you get that idea?😦
apparently you haven’t read the entirety of my posts. please refer back to them, i’ve addressed this already.
 
I’m sorry booklover if you got the wrong message but I wasn’t trying to disprove the trinity. I was trying to disprove the theory that Islam is a by-product of Catholicism.

wa salam
 
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fatuma:
I’m sorry booklover if you got the wrong message but I wasn’t trying to disprove the trinity. I was trying to disprove the theory that Islam is a by-product of Catholicism.

wa salam
Hi Fatuma! We all get confused sometimes!🙂

Vickie
 
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r.gonzales:
btw, i thought you believed that jesus died for your sins. if that’s the case and he did, then why would you ask for God to have mercy on you for yours when jesus has already died for them and you’ve practically had all accountability lifted off your shoulders? :confused:
You said you understood the religion you left. It was a big mistake to post that last sentence there because now it’s plain as day to everyone that you never even had a grasp of the basics.
 
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exoflare:
You said you understood the religion you left.
did i? are you sure about me saying that? if so, show me where…
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exoflare:
It was a big mistake to post that last sentence there because now it’s plain as day to everyone that you never even had a grasp of the basics.
how so? christian belief states that jesus died on the cross for the sins of all of mankind. does it not? if you say yes, this necessitates that the burden of mankind’s sins be put to rest upon the shoulders of jesus and taken off ours (or yours, which ever way you want to see it). now if you have some elaboration you want to share to show how this understanding is wrong, then by all means, feel free to share it here.
 
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