What is power?

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Hi,

I just wanted to start a thread on the subject of “power”. My question is simply this: What is power? I have a lot of ideas on the subject, but wanted a Catholic viewpoint and discussion based on the teachings of the Catholic magisterium. What does the Catholic Church teach about power, particularly the power of God? How does God’s power work in His creation and in us? Also, please pray that each of us submits our wills to God’s will in using the power that we have access to.

May God bless each and every one of your souls mightily!
Joshua
 
God’s power is creative power.

Since God is existence, his essence is existence, he can create. He can share his existence with creatures, while taking nothing away from himself.

Well, that’s interesting, but how does it work?

Oops! :eek: We don’t know.
God’s mode of existence is different from ours. Therefore, we cannot know what God’s creative power is, only what he can do with it.

Sorry. 😦 I know this must be disappointing. :mad:
 
pow·er/ˈpouər/
Noun:
The ability to do something or act in a particular way, esp. as a faculty or quality.

Synonyms:
noun. might - force - strength - potency - authority - energy
verb. actuate - operate

Power (philosophy) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_(philosophy):

Power is frequently defined by political scientists as the ability to influence the behavior of others with or without resistance.

It seems to me that power, as practiced by humans, is the ability to overthrow and if it doesn’t start out brutally, it will mostly end up that way because power corrupts us. Even when engaged for good, power can lead to pride, and pride leads to a corrupt spirit. It we are seeking power, we need to examine our conscience to protect our souls. Having God to submit to, and living according to the will of God, who’s power is mainly creative and for ultimate good, is our best defense against our own power which is often destructive.

Martina
 
Scientifically, power is energy divided by time.

A system that is more powerful produces or applies more energy in the same amount of time. This is the power that helps us survive in the natural world.

Otherwise, power is the ability to command others. While many covet power of this kind, it is more unstable and risky than physical power, because the others being commanded will only put up with it until they can overcome you.

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As someone else pointed out, power in the scientific, natural sense is energy outpout divided by time.

There’s another sense of power, in that of authority.

We even see that in nature. A pride of lions will have a dominant male for example, and this is a recurring theme throughout living creatures. A bee colony will have a Queen Bee, and the entire hive is organised around her survival and ability to reproduce.

Clearly this arrangement was set up by the same One who designed the universe, and its based on instinct, which I presume is based on DNA in some form or another.

Then there’s the issue of human authority. This intrigues me to some extent. What would Adolf Hitler have been without the German state behind him? Prior to World War I he was bumming around Vienna as a vagabond artist, living hand to mouth. At that stage he must have looked the least likely person to become one of history’s most vicious tyrants.

How did he get the authority to move from vagabond artist to European dictator? In my opinion he got it from the devil, who spotted this peculiar psychopathic character and thought he could use him, in an age of war and despotic political movements - Marxism, Fascism, Nazism.

Who would Pope Benedict be without the Church behind him? Just another octogenarian. Who gave him the authority? In my opinion, Christ did, via His original proclamation to Peter, and through the Holy Spirit, and with the assent of the Church masses.

Then there’s spiritual authority - Gabriel can turn up to Mary and tell her God will overshadow her and she will bear His Son, subject to her agreement, which God probably knew she’d give anyway. In this case, Gabriel is clearly on a mission almost dictated to him by God.

And of course there’s the devil’s authority. Where did it come from? In the end it came from God.

So it all comes from God - natural power in the form of energy over time, in the natural universe He made. Animal hierarchy as delineated by strength and instinct, again a product of the natural universe. Human authority, dependent on the willing cooperation of those who wield the power that flows “from the barrel of a gun”. Spiritual power which flows directly from God.

In the end it all comes from Him.

But as moral creatures we’re responsible for how we use it - the father as head of the family, the priest as shepherd for the parish sheep, the politician for the state, the principal for his school, the cop for his role as law enforcer and so on.

Therefore a butcher like Pilate could have power over Christ only by virtue of the Roman state. I’ll bet he answered for his abuse of power, not only in the obvious case of Christ’s unjust crucifixion, but also for his brutal treatment of those under his power. Small wonder he committed sucide as tradition has it, having given the order to crucify the Son of God to save his own political office.
 
The origin of all power and the greatest power is God’s love because it is creative rather than destructive…
 
I would suggest that either in science or in human relations it is the ability to produce an action.
 
I’d say power is a thing’s causal dominion over potential actuality (referred to in the subjunctive as what may be, what might be but presently is not). Put another way, it is a substance’s active range of control over mere possibilia, its total given capacity for potency-to-act motion, and ultimately, in a more genuine sense, its ability to realize goodness (what will/shall/should be the case in the future).

The Latin word for “to be able to” is ‘posse’ (similar to the English ‘possible’), and its present active participle is ‘potens’ (similar to the English ‘potent’/‘potency’, which just indicates power). And then there’s this:
The verb posse is derived from the adjective potis (pot-) powerful, mighty and the stems of esse; the forms developed by assimilatian and simplifications.
‘Esse’ = “to be”; and ‘sum’ = “I am”. ‘Posse’ = ‘potis’ (“master”) + ‘esse’ “to be able to” or “to be master to”]; and ‘possum’ = ‘potis’ + ‘sum’ “I am able/capable”].

Also interesting: *po from Proto-Indo-European to Latin/Greek meant “(away) from, by”; and as ‘po-’ + ‘esse’ = ‘posse’, the root of power could arguably be “being away from” or maybe “being from away”. Power is primarily (a range/an act of) transcendent genesis, an origin of external existence, the being of the source as it exists in itself toward a separate being that it may actually make.
 
Are there any writings of St. Augustine or St. Thomas Aquinas which deal particularly with what creative power is?
 
Joshua

What ever the Creator and Judge says, will come to pass and fulfillment. Not a maybe, not most of the time. God’s Word is always fulfilled. By and or through His Word are all things made and are.
 
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