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He speaks of the Spirit which is given in baptism.So is Jesus saying, " you’re a teacher of Israel and you don’t know about Christian baptism"?
He speaks of the Spirit which is given in baptism.So is Jesus saying, " you’re a teacher of Israel and you don’t know about Christian baptism"?
There is no doubt that many would disagree. I’m simply explaining what I find as teachings of many of the “famous” Non-Catholic theologians such as Jonathan Edwards, Charles Spurgeon, John Bunyan and, more recently, RC Spoul.Many non Protestants would disagree, not to talk of Apostolic Christians.
I appreciate the way Basil of Caesarea, a 4th century bishop, put it:lanman87:![]()
Many non Protestants would disagree, not to talk of Apostolic Christians.And while we do those things, we do them not in order to “be saved” or even to maintain a salvation that we have previously received, but because we have “been saved” and those are the means of grace that God uses to grow our faith into maturity, spread His Gospel on the Earth, and most importantly, bring Glory to God.
I’m not sure if I understand this question. Nicodemus didn’t know of man’s need to even be born again to begin with.Judaism does not teach physical Christian baptism.
So why did jesus say you are a teacher of Israel and don’t know these things
Of course He was-you don’t subscribe to the amniotic fluid nonsense I hope.The point is Jesus is not talking about baptism
It doesn’t teach many things with any kind of specificity- including baptism for any reason for that matter-which is why most Jews thought, for example, that their messiah would vanquish their physical enemies and why there was division among them over whether angels and an afterlife existed at all. We need Jesus to fill in lots of stuff, and to initiate in this new covenant, however he structures it. I mean it’s not as if Ezekiel mentioned the partaking of Jesus’ body and blood either for that matter.The Old Testament does not teach physical Christian Baptism