obviously you have no clue about the Church Jesus found. have you read in your Bible that Jesus says: “and thou art Peter and upon this rock, I will build my Church.” you did find these Scriptures, didnt you? what do you think that Jesus did with these Words?
Matthew 16:18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it.
Show us where in the Bible where Mary is called the mother of anyone except Jesus. You can’t. The other people listed are children of Mary and Joseph’s extended family. Each of their mothers is listed in the Gospels.
But you believe a sinner minister who teaches you things contrary to Scripture?
So you don’t believe these verses belong in the Bible, then?
But you do it all the time! Don’t you ask others to pray for you? We Catholics do too. We ask those who are alive in heaven with Christ to pray for us:
We have no idea if you will be saved or not. That is up to God to judge, but based on your misconceptions alone, why would we think you are damned for being uninformed/misinformed?
Just for the record here–not what the Church teaches or advocates. I believe you need to read your Catechism and the directive of Christ himself to take the Gospel to all creatures. If you don’t want to do it, fine, but that doesn’t negate Christ’s own command.
Where in that passage does it tell me I need to follow the Roman Catholic way? You can tell me that Peter was the first Pope but you lack the evidence to back up that claim. If he was, why wasn’t that ever mentioned in his or the other Apostles writings?
I can’t, but if you want to go that route, show me a verse where it says she is a virgin until death.
My pastor is a sinner just like you and me, but he isn’t capable of calling our Creator of the Universe down from his throne, just like your priest can’t. You guys make God subject to our will.
I will go to my grave saying this. The bread is a symbol of his body, just like the wine was a symbol of His blood. His body was present when He said that. So how can the bread be his body when He was holding it in His hands? That’s why He said “do this in remembrance of me”.
Of course I do! Why wouldn’t I. It doesn’t mean I pray that. Jesus told us how to pray. Our Father, who art in Heaven…
That’s not what I said. I said I don’t pray to anyone but God. Scripture tells us Jesus intercedes for us, it doesn’t say anywhere that Mary does.
Thank you for not condemning me to Hell!
God is the only one who knows our hearts. We are known by our fruits. And I pray for everyone on here that they are called by God to be included in His Kingdom!!
and what do you know about the Kingdom of God?Where in that passage does it tell me I need to follow the
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That’s not what I said. I said I don’t pray to anyone but God. Scripture tells us Jesus intercedes for us, it doesn’t say anywhere that Mary does.
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See, this is what saddens me about the RC faith.
History backs up Peter as the first pope. There is historical documentation that proves it. And his primacy of place was mentioned, but not using the title of pope (a word not used for many years after the NT was penned). The NT wasn’t written to prove the primacy of Peter, something assumed by everyone at the time, but to tackle problems that had arisen and to encourage the faithful. The Bible isn’t a proof text, although it supports the Church’s teachings in all respects.
Every Christian on the planet believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary until quite recently. It’s up to those like you who deny it to prove it’s contrary to Scripture and Sacred Tradition.
I’ve already told you the mothers of the “brothers” are all listed in the Gospels and none of them was a child of Mary. Not one.
The word until does not automatically denote a change afterwards. For example: He was faithful until he died. What? He was unfaithful after he died? Sorry, it doesn’t prove a thing. As I wrote, no one believed Mary had other children until quite recently. It’s up to you to prove otherwise.
No, God isn’t doing our will, he is doing what he himself commanded. Jesus’ presence is not done by the priest but by God. The words of consecration were Jesus’ command not ours.
Because Jesus was not limited to time and space. What he offered was truly what he said it was. He never said: “This is the symbol of my body” or “the symbol of my blood”. Show us where he said that and I’ll agree with you.
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And nowhere in Scripture does it say Mary doesn’t intercede for us. Mary was alive when the NT was written. Of course it doesn’t say she was interceding in heaven because she wasn’t there yet.
We are all called to be in God’s Kingdom. Who actually will attain to it, though is known to God, and not necessarily to us.Thank you for not condemning me to Hell!
Where in the gospels does it say that Our Lord commanded us to go into parts of the world and destroy the environments of the indigenous peoples, where did he command us to introduce diseases to which these people have no immunity, where did he command us to introduce lax western morals into the lives of these people? I cannot find that in the gospel or the catechism. Let’s also look at the history of the evangelisation of the New World. Where in the gospels does Christ command us to torture or put to death those who refuse to hear His Word?
i believe you are redeemed like myself. as far as your salvation goes. that is something which will be decided by God. its not my place. im a former baptist, who was zealous for the traditions of the baptist church. prayer, bible study, etc. i would be happy to debate any of the above issues with you. not that i would be seeking to convince you. that would take the Holy Spirit. but it is a wonderful intellectual exercise. you not wanting to believe these things, is no problem for me. my parents and the rest of my family are all protestant. we get along good enough. every oct 31 we have a slight issue though…
Peace you make a very good point. “ALL THE PROTESTANT DENOMINATIONS.” all with a different take on the Gospel, the Lords supper, Baptism etc. none of these can trace their founding to Jesus and the apostles. none of these existed prior to the reformation. there was only the Catholic Church. so if you know WHICH protestant church is the correct one, please enlighten me. show me one that can trace its lineage all the way back to Christ and his apostles. show me one that holds to the traditions and beliefs held by the early Church. also, is there any other kind of Christian other than the BORN AGAIN kind? thats like saying atm machine. basically what you are saying is automatic teller machine machine. there is no such thing a non born again Christian. that doesnt make any sense. the term born again Christian is not found in Scripture. they are called the Way, and were called Christians later, and then very early on, they were known as Catholic. as far as disagreeing. id say the protestants have much more trouble with that. every time someone has a tizzy about a piece of scripture, a new denomination is started. you dont find that in the Catholic Church. we submit to the authority Christ gave through his apostles. PeaceOk, now I’m confused.I’ve heard Catholics say if I deny the Catholic church, the one started in Rome and all her laws and rules that go along with Scripture, I can not be saved. But you and others believe if I was baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, I am saved? Which one is it?
I am a born again believer in Christ. I have a deep desire to follow Christ and his teachings found in Scripture. I was called by God, convicted to my soul about my sinful life, repented, was baptized, and now live a new life. I think the Roman Catholic church leads it’s flock into darkness. That’s why I am here, to find out exactly what you guys believe. You guys rip on all the different Protestant denominations, but most Catholics I talk to don’t agree with each other either.
God Bless
The best way to share the Gospel would be to show you kindness - if you live in a jungle, I could point to the great beauty of creation and be present to your needs.I am new here and I would like for a roman catholic to explain the Gospel to me. If you were on a mission trip in the jungles of Brazil and found me living in tribe, never knowing or heard of Jesus Christ, how would you share the Gospel?
Thank you
partially correct. the Kingdom of God is also physical. he left ambassadors on earth when he ascended back to heaven. that would be His Church. also known as His Bride. and last i knew, Jesus was not a polygamist. so, One Church. a question. if the apostle paul was not certain about his salvation, then how can you be so sure about yours? did you say a prayer akin to the sinners prayer? did you "accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior? thx in advance, im going to very interested in your responses. you are making my Army day!
peace you raise some excellent points. i have a problem with these things as well. why is it, when we make contact with these type of people, that we try to westernize them. its interesting that many times, exploitation, and pollution and eventually confiscation of their way of life, and land takes place after being in contact with people such as ourselves.(westerners.) im for leaving them alone myself. i dont know about the UK, but in America, we have enough problems to deal with, such as the high poverty rate in the appellation mountains, and such. they are always greatfull for the assistance they get from Churches that go down there. maybe we should take care of our own back yards, before we go tromping onto someone elses property, that apparently the Good Lord gave them. Peace to you and yours.
The Kingdom of God is physical here on earth? I guess, but I think it’s more spiritual.partially correct. the Kingdom of God is also physical. he left ambassadors on earth when he ascended back to heaven. that would be His Church. also known as His Bride. and last i knew, Jesus was not a polygamist. so, One Church. a question. if the apostle paul was not certain about his salvation, then how can you be so sure about yours? did you say a prayer akin to the sinners prayer? did you "accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior? thx in advance, im going to very interested in your responses. you are making my Army day!
[8] The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.”calm down, i know you are very eagle to teach us the Word of God.
that is right, these are your views. the Word of God is not to be enterpreted according to our views. keep that in mind as you hang around here.