What is the tradition?

[QNDNNDQDCE]

The example of Catholic tradition par excellence is the liturgy.

 

[Augustine3]

Hi

As I learned, Church has three infallible sources: Pope, Bibe & Tradition. Not?

We know what Popes said and say, We got a certain book as the Holy bibe, But what is the tradition?

Is there any written document about what tradition says?

Is it accessible?

This living transmission, accomplished in the Holy Spirit, is called Tradition, since it is distinct from Sacred Scripture, though closely connected to it. Through Tradition, "the Church, in her doctrine, life and worship, perpetuates and transmits to every generation all that she herself is, all that she believes."37 "The sayings of the holy Fathers are a witness to the life-giving presence of this Tradition, showing how its riches are poured out in the practice and life of the Church, in her belief and her prayer – CCC

Tradition is accessible through her pronounced dogmas, through the Mass. Tradition in the broader sense is the life and worship of the Church.

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[Augustine3]

Thanks for answers.

Are only Sacred Tradition, Sacred Scripture and the Magisterium infallible?

Does They contain ecumenical councils?

You mean are the councils infallible? Certain parts are as councils are drawn from infallible sources i.e. Magisterium, Sacred Scripture and Tradition.

 

[javid]

A big part of understanding the Church’s Tradition comes from reading the writings of the Church Fathers, and their best writings have been translated into English so you can access them in several places. (One is www.newadvent.org/fathers. Start there if you want to read the Church Fathers and discover the Church’s Tradition.)

What in the writings of the Church Fathers, is a part of tradition and is infallible? Do you mean certain writings or All writings they wrote?

 

[DebChris]

I don’t understand how the things you mention relate to the fact that purgatory, Mariology and infant baptism are all found in Scripture.

-Tim-

What I gave was a source, The Catholic Answer Bible, which will direct an individual to the specific teaching of the Catholic Church. It has a number of frequently asked questions about Catholic beliefs along with where an individual can find relevant scriptural text to support Catholic doctrine.
Scripture tells us “The Word became flesh and dwelt among us.” What the Apostles received, they preached. Tradition is the teaching of Christ as taught to the Apostles and handed intact through the ages to succeeding generations. The authority to teach was handed on to the bishops as their successors (the magisterium). Finally, what was taught was put into writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

 

[fhansen]

Thanks for answers.

Are only Sacred Tradition, Sacred Scripture and the Magisterium infallible?

Does They contain ecumenical councils?

Infallibility is a gift given to the Church; it doesn’t reside in Tradition or Scripture. Rather it’s the ability of a living entity, the Church , the “pillar and foundation of truth”, via her Magisterium, to interpret and transmit the meaning of those sources of our faith.

 

[javid]

dmar198;11368217:

A big part of understanding the Church’s Tradition comes from reading the writings of the Church Fathers, and their best writings have been translated into English so you can access them in several places. (One is www.newadvent.org/fathers

. Start there if you want to read the Church Fathers and discover the Church’s Tradition.)
What in the writings of the Church Fathers, is a part of tradition and is infallible? Do you mean certain writings or All writings they wrote?

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[fhansen]

What in the writings of the Church Fathers, is a part of tradition and is infallible? Do you mean certain writings or All writings they wrote?

Nothing in the ECFs writings is infallible. They simply consistently affirm Catholic teachings to a very high degree.

 

[javid]

Nothing in the ECFs writings is infallible. They simply consistently affirm Catholic teachings to a very high degree.

So why it said we can find tradition in Early Church fathers’ writings? if no thing in them is infallible, nothing in them is tradition.

 

[fhansen]

So why it said we can find tradition in Early Church fathers’ writings? if no thing in them is infallible, nothing in them is tradition.

Traditional beliefs and practices not otherwise explicit in Scripture are often found in the writings of ECFs. Therefore Tradition is supported there, over and against those who claim the beliefs and practices are merely Catholic inventions. That’s all it means.

 

[farnhamyrl]

This differs from traditions and customs which can change and have changed through out the ages and depending on where people live

 

[javid]

Traditional beliefs and practices not otherwise explicit in Scripture are often found in the writings of ECFs. Therefore Tradition is supported there, over and against those who claim the beliefs and practices are merely Catholic inventions. That’s all it means.

Dear friend, I’m looking for content of tradition. We just know what it mean, but we don’t know what is it realy. So how can we see it as a infallible source.

 

[fhansen]

Dear friend, I’m looking for content of tradition. We just know what it mean, but we don’t know what is it realy. So how can we see it as a infallible source.

As I said before, the Church is the infallible source. Since Tradition isn’t written, except in the case of Scripture which is simply Tradition that was written, then you look to the beliefs, teachings, and practices of the Church to find Tradition. Where scripture isn’t necessarily explicit-and recognize that scripture was never intended to be an exhaustive theological handbook or catechism-then those Church teachings that aren’t explicit there are part of Tradition. I already named the Real Presence, infant Baptism, and purgatory, for example. Plausible arguments from Scripture for or against these are made by opponents. The doctrine of justification is another similar matter, and a hot-button one in this case. The Church, due to Tradition, knows the truth-God’s will-regarding these matters with or without reference to Scripture. This is unique only to a Church which can trace it’s lineage back to the beginning.

 

[QNDNNDQDCE]

You seem to be finding the Catholic Encyclopedia helpful, so take a look at this article. It should help you and will likely provide a more satisfying answer than anyone on this forum.

newadvent.org/cathen/15006b.htm

I would also encourage you to re-read the article on infallibility. The article states that infallibility resides within the bishops and divides this into three categories: (1) the college of bishops, (2) the ecumenical councils, and (3) the pope. Because, however, the teaching of any individual bishop is not infallible, only the latter two are definitive and are called the “solemn magisterium” of the Church in the article. The Bible and Tradition are not organs of infallibility because they are what they are and do not teach dynamically.