What is the Unforgivable sin

[thyczko]

I’m afraid I might of committed it. I was raise and Confirmed in a Lutheran Church went to a Baptist Elementary School. My Grandmom was Ukrainian Orthodox, one sister in Catholic and the other a Buddhist. I never knew what the unforgivable sin was. In 1997 I got sacred that I committed the unforgivable sin and said I was an atheist and repented a second later. For a short time I struggle with doubt. My Mom ask me if I believe in God and I said I was an atheist but than said I believe in God. Will God forgive me over this. I been faithful since

 

[thyczko]

I didn’t know about Hebrew 6 or 2 Timothy I was a baby in Christ. I never experience the power of the coming age. I read James 5 and it says 19My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, 20consider this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and cover over a multitude of sins. It gave me hope of God’s forgiveness. Jude 1:22. 20 But you, dear friends, by building yourselves up in your most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit, 21 keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life.
22 Be merciful to those who doubt; 23 save others by snatching them from the fire; to others show mercy, mixed with fear—hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh.[f] gives me hope.
I didn’t understand what the unforgivable sin was and I don’t know how God views it. I have a better understanding of it know but back then I was ignorant to the seriousness of it

 

[Wesrock]

The Catholic Church teaches that the unforgivable sin is final impenitence, to be so full of malice for the Holy Spirit that one refuses to repent of the sin ever.

If you are repenting a sin, then that sin is obviously not the unforgivable sin. You haven’t done anything to completely turn yourself away from the Holy Spirit. God will forgive anyone who repents. It’s only the unrepentant who need worry.

From the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

1864 “Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.” There are no limits to the mercy of God, but anyone who deliberately refuses to accept his mercy by repenting, rejects the forgiveness of his sins and the salvation offered by the Holy Spirit. Such hardness of heart can lead to final impenitence and eternal loss.

 

[Wesrock]

In 1997 I got sacred that I committed the unforgivable sin and said I was an atheist and repented a second later. For a short time I struggle with doubt. My Mom ask me if I believe in God and I said I was an atheist but than said I believe in God. Will God forgive me over this. I been faithful since

Oh, and to be absolutely clear, apostasy and atheism are not unforgivable; people can repent of these things. You’ve no reason to second guess yourself.

 

[Russell_SA]

You can’t be an atheist and believe in god. It’s like saying there’s a square circle. Atheism is not declaring there is no gods, only that you are not conviced that a god exists. That is a neutral point to take, it is not a positive or negative declaration about reality, it’s just “I am currently unconvinced of the presentation that a god exists.” There still may actually be a deity, but you haven’t been convinced based on the bad evidence and presentation of the arguments for one. But you seem to be looking at your religious texts to see what it takes to “hack” the moral code of your diety. If I do X, then god will do Y, regardless of mercy or grace of it. Is your god a forgiving god or is it just a computer code that you can go by so that you can be as good or bad as you want as long as you stay away from those rules that your deity operates by?

 

[Rau]

The Catholic Church teaches that the unforgivable sin is final impenitence, to be so full of malice for the Holy Spirit that one refuses to repent of the sin ever.

If one repents, forgiveness follows, regardless of what one did or resolved what to do or not do. Final impenitence held tight right into the grave would indeed seem to be eternally fatal.

 

[Vico]

I’m afraid I might of committed it. … Will God forgive me over this. I been faithful since

Any sin mortal or venial can be forgiven.

Baltimore Catechism

Q. 433. What are the sins against the Holy Ghost which Our Lord said will not be forgiven either in this world or in the next?
A. The sins against the Holy Ghost which Our Lord said will not be forgiven either in this world or in the next, are sins committed out of pure malice, and greatly opposed to the mercy of God, and are, therefore, seldom forgiven.

 

[po18guy]

I think you are suffering from scrupulosity. You will have no peace until you deal with it. Speak with your confessor about this, realizing that it may require counseling or even medical treatment, but how can you live with such mental torment? From the dictionary:

“ORIGIN late Middle English (in the sense ‘troubled with doubts’): from French scrupuleux or Latin scrupulosus, from scrupulus”

 

[Benadam]

The sins against the Holy Ghost which Our Lord said will not be forgiven either in this world or in the next, are sins committed out of pure malice, and greatly opposed to the mercy of God, and are, therefore, seldom forgiven.

I find this disturbing. It suggests there are sins that God won’t forgive, even in our lifetime…

Below is an example of unforgivable sin.

If God reveals Himself fully and is still rejected, what more can God do? This is what happened to the fallen angels. God had revealed Himself fully to them. They rejected Him. What more can God do? There isn’t any new knowledge to change their decision. They enter into an eternal state of rebellion.

When we die in our sins we enter into eternal rebellion too.

Jewish leaders were not believing Jesus even after seeing miracles. After accusing Him of using evil powers to cast out demons they were at risk of the same thing that happened to the fallen angels. God was revealing Himself in as much as possible to them and they were rejecting Him. What more can God do? After that Jesus warned them of sinning against the Holy Spirit.

I would guess that rejecting Christ like they were, in the face of overwhelming evidence that He was true,
may have been a sign that their hatred for Jesus was becoming a changeless state. An eternal state

Even though, until they died there could be hope for them .

 

[Vico]

Vico:

The sins against the Holy Ghost which Our Lord said will not be forgiven either in this world or in the next, are sins committed out of pure malice, and greatly opposed to the mercy of God, and are, therefore, seldom forgiven.

I find this disturbing. It suggests there are sins that God won’t forgive, even in our lifetime…

Below is an example of unforgivable sin.

If God reveals Himself fully and is still rejected, what more can God do? This is what happened to the fallen angels. God had revealed Himself fully to them. They rejected Him. What more can God do? There isn’t any new knowledge to change their decision. They enter into an eternal state of rebellion.

When we die in our sins we enter into eternal rebellion too.

Jewish leaders were not believing Jesus even after seeing miracles. After accusing Him of using evil powers to cast out demons they were at risk of the same thing that happened to the fallen angels. God was revealing Himself in as much as possible to them and they were rejecting Him. What more can God do? After that Jesus warned them of sinning against the Holy Spirit.

I would guess that rejecting Christ like they were, in the face of overwhelming evidence that He was true,
may have been a sign that their hatred for Jesus was becoming a changeless state. An eternal state

Even though, until they died there could be hope for them .

Yes, there is hope while living. There is no assurance that once a baptized person has committed a mortal sin that repentance will occur, for God has given man free will. Dogmas of faith from the Council of Trent are: (Denzinger)

813 Can. 3. If anyone shall say that without the anticipatory inspiration of the Holy Spirit and without His assistance man can believe, hope, and love or be repentant, as he ought, so that the grace of justification may be conferred upon him: let him be anathema [cf. n. 797].

814 Can. 4. If anyone shall say that man’s free will moved and aroused by God does not cooperate by assenting to God who rouses and calls, whereby it disposes and prepares itself to obtain the grace of justification, and that it cannot dissent, if it wishes, but that like something inanimate it does nothing at all and is merely in a passive state: let him be anathema [cf. n. 797].

815 Can. 5. If anyone shall say that after the sin of Adam man’s free will was lost and destroyed, or that it is a thing in name only, indeed a title without a reality, a fiction, moreover, brought into the Church by Satan: let him be anathema [cf. n. 793, 797].

832 Can. 22. If anyone shall say that he who is justified can either persevere in the justice received without the special assistance of God, or that with that [assistance] he cannot: let him be anathema [cf. n. 804, 806].

http://patristica.net/denzinger/#n800

 

[MarysLittleFlower]

Theologians seem to agree that the unforgiveable sin somehow includes unrepentance. If you are sorry, it’s not unforgiveable. Also atheism is not that sin. Don’t worry, trust God

 

[BrunoMaria]

IT’S CLEARY STATED IN THE BIBLE WHAT AN UNFORGIVABLE SIN IS.

Jesus war very serious when he said in Mt 24,31: I say to you: Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven. And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.
The Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God the Father.

St. Paul repeats this in Hebr 6,4, and 10,26 where he emphasizes, that it’s impossible to be forgiven to a person, who by God’s grace had received the heavenly gift of belief.

 

[Vico]

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Some insights to consider.
Haydock Commentary Matt 12:31:

Ver. 32. Whosoever, &c. It was their duty to have a knowledge of the Holy Ghost, and they obstinately refused to admit what was clear and manifest. Though they were ignorant of the divinity of Jesus Christ, and might take him to be merely the son of a poor artizan, they could not be ignorant that the expelling of demons, and miraculous healing of all diseases, were the works of the Holy Ghost. If, therefore, they refused to do penance for the insult offered to the Spirit of God, in the person of Christ, they could not hope to escape condign punishment. (St. Chrysostom, hom. xlii).

— Against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him; i.e. they who for want of sufficient instruction, were invincibly ignorant that Christ was God, might more easily be brought to the true knowledge and faith of Christ, and so receive forgiveness of their sins: but if he shall speak against the Holy Ghost, i.e. against the Spirit of God in Christ, and shall oppose the known truth, by attributing to the devil that doctrine, and those miracles, which evidently were from the Spirit and the hand of God, that sin shall never be forgiven him. But how is this consistent with the Catholic doctrine and belief, that there is no sin any man commits of which he may not obtain pardon in this life? To this I answer, that in what manner soever we expound this place, it is an undoubted point of Christian faith, that there is no sin which our merciful God is not ready to pardon; no sin, for the remission of which, God hath not left a power in his Church, as it is clearly proved by those words, Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them, &c. St. Chrysostom therefore expounds these words, shall not be forgiven them, to imply no more, than shall scarcely, or seldom be forgiven; that is, it is very hard for such sinners to return to God, by a true and sincere repentance and conversion; so that this sentence is like to that (Matthew xix. 26.) where Christ seems to call it an impossible thing for a rich man to be saved. In the same place St. Chrysostom tells us, that some of those who had blasphemed against the Holy Ghost, repented, and had their sins forgiven them. St. Augustine, by this blasphemy against the Spirit, understands the sin of final impenitence, by which an obstinate sinner refuseth to be converted, and therefore lives and dies hardened in his sins. (Witham)

 

[Vico]

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— Nor in the world to come. From these words St. Augustine (De Civ. lib. xxi. chap. 13.) and St. Gregory (Dial. iv, chap. 39.) gather, that some sins may be remitted in the world to come; and consequently that there is a purgatory, or a middle place. (Challoner)

— St. Augustine says these words would not be true, if some sins were not forgiven in the world to come; and St. Gregory says, we are to believe from these words in the existence of the fire of purgatory, to expiate our smaller offences, before the day of judgment. St. Isidore and Ven. Bede say the same. St. Bernard, speaking of heretics, says, they do not believe in purgatory: let them then inquire of our Saviour, what he meant by these words.

— It is well known that Ven. Bede, on his death-bed, bestowed several small tokens to the monks who were present, that they might remember to pray for his soul in the holy sacrifice of the mass. (Haydock)

 

[Catholicos]

I’m afraid I might of committed it. I was raise and Confirmed in a Lutheran Church went to a Baptist Elementary School. My Grandmom was Ukrainian Orthodox, one sister in Catholic and the other a Buddhist. I never knew what the unforgivable sin was. In 1997 I got sacred that I committed the unforgivable sin and said I was an atheist and repented a second later. For a short time I struggle with doubt. My Mom ask me if I believe in God and I said I was an atheist but than said I believe in God. Will God forgive me over this. I been faithful since

Lets see, you’re still alive, you recall what you thought and what you said, and you sound genuinely repentant and acknowledged the blasphemy.

My feeling is God would be even more pleased by your repentance and your true desire for His mercy, than if you had never turned to atheism at all. Hearing the call of the Holy Spirit to return to your faith and love of God I think proves it was not true blasphemy. The father rejoiced during the parable of the prodigal son, and so shall God with you for repenting and returning to His good graces.

 

[lilypadrees]

Blasphemy or rejection of the Holy Spirit is the unpardonable sin. It won’t be forgiven on earth or in Heaven.

 

[Vico]

Blasphemy or rejection of the holy Spirit is the unpardonable sin. It won’t be forgiven on earth or in Heaven.

Per Catholic teaching, there is no offence, however serious, that cannot be taken away by Baptism, or absolved from in the Confessional.

 

[Rau]

Blasphemy or rejection of the holy Spirit is the unpardonable sin. It won’t be forgiven on earth or in Heaven.

So this is a kind of “one and done” - is that what you believe?

 

[lilypadrees]

Are you saying that to reject the Holy Spirit even to the moment of one’s death is NOT Catholic teaching? If Jesus knocks at your heart’s door and you deny Him entry and say, “I don’t believe in You. I don’t need You. Go away.” and you continue in that vein to the moment of your death, that is not Catholic teaching?

You see, I was always taught that the Unpardonable Sin was blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and rejection of Jesus which includes things like rejecting Jesus’ invitation to be your Lord and Savior, rejecting the Holy Spirit Himself and crediting those things that come from the Holy Spirit to Satan.

 

[lilypadrees]

As i said to Vico, I believe that rejection of the Holy Spirit is the Unpardonable Sin that will not be forgiven in this life or the next. This includes crediting Satan with things that actually come from the Holy Spirit.That is what I’ve been taught all my life. This is what I am referring to in the Bible. Mark 3:28-30 (RSVCE) Verses 20-30 give the entire context. But here are the last 3 which really bring it home.

28 “Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter;

29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”—

30 for they had said, “He has an unclean spirit.”