What is the value of a wife?

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Xantippe said:
Now that you guys have snapped up PhiloMed, can I start the bidding on pensmama87? Just the couponing alone makes pensmama87 an excellent value.
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Darn it.

I was literally going to say the same thing. I have no time or patience for couponing.

Plus she’s got three sons and I’ve got three daughters around the same age.

Let the matchmaking begin! 😛

I think I’ll just rent out Easter Joy.
She can help me pass organic chem.
 
Again, not to be greedy, but I seem to remember that at least one CAFer knows how to cut hair.

I’d like to put out an opening bid on one of those.
 
Hey, does anyone need a know-it-all? I’m available for purchase----cheap! 😛
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jmjZelie:
I really liked your response and read it out loud to my husband.
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I can’t take credit for any of it. It’s the result of reading better, wiser heads than mine. 😉 :tiphat:
 
Sarcelle said:
Honestly, the first thing that came to my mind is that someone is trying to sell their wife.😉
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Funny. The first that came to my mind was someone asking how a wife would enrich their lives.

Which comes down to it depends on the woman.

Different folks have different ideas of what a wife should be, what their roles or obligations in a marriage are. We can certainly point to scripture and the church teachings for ideals and concepts. But none of that is enforceable, there really are no obligations you can demand that your spouse live up to, including the basic obligation of staying in the marriage if you’re treating them well, or remaining faithful. As a catholic, we take on the moral commitment to stay married for better or worse, but you can only control your end of that and whether to separate- but not end the marriage. A spouse can truly enrich your life with what they’re willing to put into the marriage, and what you’re willing to put in and allow them to put in as well. For example, they can be a great adviser, but you have to be willing to listen. They can be a wonderfully supportive confidante, if you’re willing to open up and confide in them. A spouse can be a great co-parent, if you let them.

Or, they can choose to be a part-time parent at their convenience, valued at 50% of everything you own together and take it with them somewhere else.
on_the_hill said:
Beats me. I’m still making payments.
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Same here, and I’ll be continuing to make the payments for the rest of my/her life.
 
pianistclare said:
Right. As usual CAF overthinks.
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No one can purchase a wife or put her “value” on a tax return.
I assume it was a rhetorical question, and only should be considered as such.
Unless someone wants to sell me PhiloMed for $1.87 😉

I could really sue some help around here. :hmmm:
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I honestly thought she and her husband were trying to figure out how much life insurance to buy in case she died and left him to take care of the children alone. That is a practical reason to want to pencil out how much it costs to lose your spouse. Besides figuring in the costs of replacing all the things that two parents can manage to earn and get done and one parent can’t, you have to imagine that the surviving spouse might be left with expenses from a catastrophic illness or accident, not to mention any earning power that will be needed for school. If you go from homeschooling to a parochial school, for instance, it is a big expense, but you often don’t want at-risk kids who just lost their mother and live in a one-parent household in a public school.

That’s why we buy life insurance. You can’t put a price on a life, but you really ought to estimate how much extra money your family will need if one of the parents dies.
 
EasterJoy said:
I honestly thought she and her husband were trying to figure out how much life insurance to buy in case she died and left him to take care of the children alone. That is a practical reason to want to pencil out how much it costs to lose your spouse. Besides figuring in the costs of replacing all the things that two parents can manage to earn and get done and one parent can’t, you have to imagine that the surviving spouse might be left with expenses from a catastrophic illness or accident, not to mention any earning power that will be needed for school. If you go from homeschooling to a parochial school, for instance, it is a big expense, but you often don’t want at-risk kids who just lost their mother and live in a one-parent household in a public school.

That’s why we buy life insurance. You can’t put a price on a life, but you really ought to estimate how much extra money your family will need if one of the parents dies.
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+1. There were a couple of men killed in car accidents in our general neighborhood a few years back-- neither had life insurance. So, in addition to dealing with the tragedy of losing the father and husband, the wife and children had to then deal with selling the house, moving away from friends, much lower standard of living starting in a new place. (A new start might be a good idea, but as a choice not forced by circumstance).

ETA: I’m assuming by school you’re including college. If you have daughters, might figure wedding expenses into the total insurance required as well.
 
Ok…for a small fee I’ll teach voice, piano, music reading lesson, stained glass and Spanish,French,& koine Greek. I’ll through in catechism remedial classes and liturgy norms. Xantippe can keep the books and handle all of our correspondence, pensmama can be in charge of coupons, fun meals and craft ideas, zelie will keep everyone’s hair tamed, Philo can keep us healthy, kelfa can deal with nosy neighbors , Kendra can help Philo on the late shift, and convert can keep us all smiling and laughing ������.
I’ll say as a group we’re worth about one large sister wife house, 3 large guard dogs and a luxury car each. My daughter the esthetician will give facials and makeup advice.
If we have enough cash leftover we can hire youknowwho to babysit!!!
Lol. I crack myself up!!!
 
EasterJoy said:
I honestly thought she and her husband were trying to figure out how much life insurance to buy in case she died and left him to take care of the children alone. That is a practical reason to want to pencil out how much it costs to lose your spouse. Besides figuring in the costs of replacing all the things that two parents can manage to earn and get done and one parent can’t, you have to imagine that the surviving spouse might be left with expenses from a catastrophic illness or accident, not to mention any earning power that will be needed for school. If you go from homeschooling to a parochial school, for instance, it is a big expense, but you often don’t want at-risk kids who just lost their mother and live in a one-parent household in a public school.

That’s why we buy life insurance. You can’t put a price on a life, but you really ought to estimate how much extra money your family will need if one of the parents dies.
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That is a good point.

We carry a fraction of my husband’s policy on me, but in the event of my untimely demise, it’s enough to pay off our mortgage, bury me, and tie up some loose ends. Paying off the mortgage would hopefully free up enough income to deal with extra childcare costs, loss of income from my husband not being able to travel for work, not being able to work as much as usual, etc. I think we’re just slightly underinsured on me for the next 2-3 years, but it’s almost enough.
 
pianistclare said:
Ok…for a small fee I’ll teach voice, piano, music reading lesson, stained glass and Spanish,French,& koine Greek. I’ll through in catechism remedial classes and liturgy norms. Xantippe can keep the books and handle all of our correspondence, pensmama can be in charge of coupons, fun meals and craft ideas, zelie will keep everyone’s hair tamed, Philo can keep us healthy, kelfa can deal with nosy neighbors , Kendra can help Philo on the late shift, and convert can keep us all smiling and laughing ��.
I’ll say as a group we’re worth about one large sister wife house, 3 large guard dogs and a luxury car each. My daughter the esthetician will give facials and makeup advice.
If we have enough cash leftover we can hire youknowwho to babysit!!!
Lol. I crack myself up!!!
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I’ve lately had my eye on one of those cherry red Mercedes SUVs. So adorable!

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By the way, I do periodically mention to my husband that in the event of my untimely demise, it would be an awfully good idea to pay off the house.

That sort of helpful advice is at least part of the value that I bring to my family.
 
pianistclare said:
Ok…for a small fee I’ll teach voice, piano, music reading lesson, stained glass and Spanish,French,& koine Greek. I’ll through in catechism remedial classes and liturgy norms. Xantippe can keep the books and handle all of our correspondence, pensmama can be in charge of coupons, fun meals and craft ideas, zelie will keep everyone’s hair tamed, Philo can keep us healthy, kelfa can deal with nosy neighbors , Kendra can help Philo on the late shift, and convert can keep us all smiling and laughing ��.
I’ll say as a group we’re worth about one large sister wife house, 3 large guard dogs and a luxury car each. My daughter the esthetician will give facials and makeup advice.
If we have enough cash leftover we can hire youknowwho to babysit!!!
Lol. I crack myself up!!!
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Sounds like a plan! 😃

But who’s “you know who?” :ehh:

I love babysitting. Count me in (after I get better again!)

I’m also good at organizing.
 
Xantippe said:
That is a good point.

We carry a fraction of my husband’s policy on me, but in the event of my untimely demise, it’s enough to pay off our mortgage, bury me, and tie up some loose ends. Paying off the mortgage would hopefully free up enough income to deal with extra childcare costs, loss of income from my husband not being able to travel for work, not being able to work as much as usual, etc. I think we’re just slightly underinsured on me for the next 2-3 years, but it’s almost enough.
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You wouldn’t want to have so much life insurance that the police will figure your husband did you in!! 😃
 
EasterJoy said:
What are those duties?

What should Prince Phillip expect from Queen Elizabeth, for example?
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I’m a republican so probably won’t have the most charitable answer to these sorts of questions.
 
jmjZelie said:
I am not determined to make MY point. I asked a question. I have read the responses. I shared my husband’s answer after he got home. You disagreed. That is fine. I am not being rude, and I am not angry, so I don’t need to be reminded to remain cordial. I simply don’t know what you were trying to do with continuing to debate me about my husband’s answer. I have read and understood each of your posts. I am not trying to push you out of the conversation, I just didn’t understand why you were leaving out the most important paragraphs of my post and responding to the rest of it.

Edited to add: to be very clear, I am only expressing my confusion here, and my lack of ability to know what response you are hoping for to your posts, not any anger or dislike of you as a poster at CAF.
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Why are you confused that I keep responding to your direct posts to me in a continued discussion on an internet forum? If you do not wish for me to keep this conversation going, I suggest you stop responding to me, which by it’s very nature continues it.

Anyway, I posted merely to address your concerns that Proverbs seems to discuss the value of a wife in terms of duties/functions. I wanted to try to show how this can be better understood and assimilated with your own perspective. You disagreed and offered direct examples, and I responded as could be expected. But I’m now happy to drop this dialogue.

Anyway, post #26 better reflects my views regardless.
 
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