What is the vocation of same-sex-attracted Catholics?

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@vico I have read this but that doesn’t specifically apply to the query. That answers the question for those looking to join an order. I’m saying assuming they can’t what is their vocation?
Strictly speaking it applies to priests (religious and secular) and deacons. There are several vocations including single without orders or consecration. Catechism 1699 “Life in the Holy Spirit fulfills the vocation of man”…
 
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Thanks, I think the word sacrament was missing for me trying to explain why I don’t view singleness as a vocation in the traditional sense.
 
So, I’m curious why is there this notion of Catholics having this big discernment of vocation. Is it just this Hollywood notion of a grandma saying, “You have to decide your vocation?” like it’s a huge rite of passage. I’m a convert so I’m still trying to understand. From what I’m gathering any choice could be a vocation as long as you are faithful to the Holy Spirit, the Church, the Gospel., or am I missing something? I find it hard to ask people I know because they are biased, haha!
 
For whatever it’s worth, I tend to agree with you @catholiclala that the conventional definition of vocation does seem to be about making a lifelong commitment involving other persons. The expectation is that we commit ourselves to some permanent state in life, with the intention of bearing fruit that is somehow particular to that permanent state in life.

For most, the commitment is made either to a spouse in marriage, or to a religious community (or I suppose for a priest, the Church?) Even the most atomized version I can think of (consecrated virgins) who live as singles in the world, have a particular relationship with their bishop.

Singles who perceive themselves as only temporarily single while hoping for marriage though (whether or not they ever actually marry)… I don’t think we can call that particular state of singledom a vocation per se. It’s possible that some other work they perform while single is part of their vocational call (like a missionary or a doctor serving the Lord the best they can through their regular work)… but calling the ‘single’ part itself a vocation, when they haven’t specifically committed to singleness as a permanent state, and might yet marry… personally no, I think we’re muddying waters if we try to stretch terms that far.

So basically I’d view it that technically speaking, every baptized Christian is already participating in their main baptismal vocation (of life in Christ, and growing in personal holiness), the subsequent vocations we commit to are, surely, commitments? And the state of not-yet-having-committed-to-anything, because we’re still-hoping-some-future-commitment-we-prefer may come along, isn’t itself a vocation. So anyone open to marriage can’t consider their singleness a vocation (under my completely non-authoritative view).

People who experience exclusively SSA may be an interesting exemption to this though. Although then I don’t want to exclude those who self-report being able to find satisfaction in marriage to the opposite sex. Again, when it comes to people who experience SSA I don’t think it’s my place to speculate about what their calls will look like; that’s for them to tell us, as they figure it out step-by-step with God.
 
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@MNathaniel This makes sense. Yeah, I would kind of feel a bit of a stretch to state the state of me as a single is a vocation. I see other single Catholics do this and I feel it’s not accurate. I can agree with the statement that is in the Catechism, as posted above, but I think the commitment to an individual or community is a different understanding of vocation that my single life does not inherently satisfy. I almost feel like there should be little v vocation and big V Vocation as distinctions, haha!
 
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but do the same restrictions apply regarding orientation?
I’m a Third Order Dominican. There is nothing in our Rule that prohibits joining on the basis of SSA. Obviously though that person would be expected not to act on it. But otherwise there’d be no problem.
 
I almost feel like there should be little v vocation and big V vocation as distinctions, haha!
Haha, I think that is actually a literal distinction that vocation directors tend to draw! Big V and little v.

If you’re interested in more official answers regarding the current state of understanding ‘vocation’ in the Catholic Church, I’d suggest reviewing more authoritative sources (e.g. a vocation discernment book a spiritual director might guide you to, or maybe there’s something on Catholic.com? For some reason I was unable to use their search tool when I popped over there just now, but usually they’re a great resource.) While at the same time I think the particular question you raise is very much one that is open to discussion and exploration these days. Humans are made for relationship: primarily with our Creator, but also with each other. Finding ways to best live out our relationships with each other in a way that glorifies God, is something I think there’s room for continued exploration of. Especially for those expecting singleness that leaves us outside of the big 2/3 conventional vocational paths.

Small note, just sitting here reflecting… even a woman called to marriage, will eventually (probably) be single again as a widow. She is not a lesser daughter of God when her particular earthly marriage ends and she returns to the single state. So I think it’s important for all of us to remember that no more are we lesser daughters (or sons) of God prior to or without ever entering a marriage. Our baptismal calling is a vocation in itself (the universal call to holiness), before any further specification is undertaken. And salvation in Jesus Christ is through baptism, not marriage or holy orders (or the non-sacramental path of consecrated religious life). So those already saved through baptism in Jesus Christ, and already living out the daily universal call to holiness in their own particular circumstances and lives… I think that’s the situation within which the Holy Spirit will inspire new vocational expression, if new vocational expression is called for.
 
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As a Catholic with SSA, it certainly can be frustrating trying to figure this out. It seems like priests especially are happy to recommend Courage and leave it at that. My experience in Courage was a mix of positive and negative.

It certainly does seem, at times, like we’re supposed to just die alone. It’s especially frustrating because I know priests with SSA, and I do believe numerous saints throughout history have suffered from it.
 
As a Catholic with SSA, it certainly can be frustrating trying to figure this out. It seems like priests especially are happy to recommend Courage and leave it at that. My experience in Courage was a mix of positive and negative.

It certainly does seem, at times, like we’re supposed to just die alone. It’s especially frustrating because I know priests with SSA, and I do believe numerous saints throughout history have suffered from it.
I truly feel for you. These issues were heavily on my mind when going through my conversion, having many close SSA friends. I can’t imagine being told I’m supposed to be left out in this way. I used to be angry about not finding a husband so I can’t even imagine being told I’m not supposed to have one. Courage does not seem capable of addressing such dynamic concerns. There is more work to be done here. I’m pretty sure many priests I know, good solid, holy men struggle with this. The irony is that for so long there has been a history of those with SSA being sent away to become religious as a remedy. The irony. Many don’t want to acknowledge that legacy.
 
I know that there are Catholic communities which are not monastic. On one end, we find the Benedict option communities which are laypeople looking for ways to build Catholic community.
I’ve read of another down in Oklahoma.
Groups like Opus Dei have ways of building community while emphasizing the pursuit of holiness in the everyday life.
I can imagine these groups providing communal support to their members which would look be a bit different in emphasis from what one might find at courage.
 
Different for each individual, the same as for straight persons.
 
It’s the same as that of all laity.

From the Catechism:
The vocation of lay people

898 "By reason of their special vocation it belongs to the laity to seek the kingdom of God by engaging in temporal affairs and directing them according to God’s will. . . . It pertains to them in a special way so to illuminate and order all temporal things with which they are closely associated that these may always be effected and grow according to Christ and maybe to the glory of the Creator and Redeemer."431

899 The initiative of lay Christians is necessary especially when the matter involves discovering or inventing the means for permeating social, political, and economic realities with the demands of Christian doctrine and life. This initiative is a normal element of the life of the Church:

Lay believers are in the front line of Church life; for them the Church is the animating principle of human society. Therefore, they in particular ought to have an ever-clearer consciousness not only of belonging to the Church, but of being the Church, that is to say, the community of the faithful on earth under the leadership of the Pope, the common Head, and of the bishops in communion with him. They are the Church.432

900 Since, like all the faithful, lay Christians are entrusted by God with the apostolate by virtue of their Baptism and Confirmation, they have the right and duty, individually or grouped in associations, to work so that the divine message of salvation may be known and accepted by all men throughout the earth. This duty is the more pressing when it is only through them that men can hear the Gospel and know Christ. Their activity in ecclesial communities is so necessary that, for the most part, the apostolate of the pastors cannot be fully effective without it.433
 
To add to my post above, some more on the vocation of the laity, from the Second Vatican Council:
13.The apostolate in the social milieu, that is, the effort to infuse a Christian spirit into the mentality, customs, laws, and structures of the community in which one lives, is so much the duty and responsibility of the laity that it can never be performed properly by others. In this area the laity can exercise the apostolate of like toward like. It is here that they complement the testimony of life with the testimony of the word.(9) It is here where they work or practice their profession or study or reside or spend their leisure time or have their companionship that they are more capable of helping their brethren.

The laity fulfill this mission of the Church in the world especially by conforming their lives to their faith so that they become the light of the world as well as by practicing honesty in all their dealings so that they attract all to the love of the true and the good and finally to the Church and to Christ. They fulfill their mission also by fraternal charity which presses them to share in the living conditions, labors, sorrows, and aspirations of their brethren with the result that the hearts of all about them are quietly prepared for the workings of saving grace. Another requisite for the accomplishment of their task is a full consciousness of their role in building up society whereby they strive to perform their domestic, social, and professional duties with such Christian generosity that their manner of acting should gradually penetrate the whole world of life and labor.

This apostolate should reach out to all wherever they may be encountered; it should not exclude any spiritual or temporal benefit which they have the ability to confer. True apostles however, are not content with this activity alone but endeavor to announce Christ to their neighbors by means of the spoken word as well. For there are many persons who can hear the Gospel and recognize Christ only through the laity who live near them.
Apostolicam actuositatem
 
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If your congregation or you is accepting those people to be around the word of god then, you’re just as wicked as they are.
Your comment is insane and evil. “These people” are sons and daughters of God, for whom the Word of God, Jesus Christ, suffered and died on the cross.

Jesus loves “these people” and wants them near him. If you walk away from “these people”, you walk away from Jesus at the same time.
 
Many people nether marry nor join a religious organization. That does not make them “vocation-less”. There life is as worthy as they make it.
 
They would have a vocation of holiness.
Salt and light to the world. At the workplace, as a neighbour, with their hobbies and interests. They are a human being responding to the gospel.
 
I don’t know how to best pose this question so forgive me for any clumsiness as it’s a sensitive topic. If we are supposed to have a vocation of holy matrimony or religious life, what is the vocation for the same-sex-attracted who are not supposed to marry but are also not supposed to be welcomed into religious life? I’m a straight single woman and it’s confusing enough for me as I don’t feel called to religious life and at this point am content if I never marry. Thinking of my own vocation less state made me think about our same-sex-attracted brothers and sisters. Is this explained anywhere? I have seen the teaching on sexual morality but nothing that addresses vocation in these instances.
Perhaps a Third Order, like the Lay Dominicans or Secular Franciscans?

There is also Opus Dei, Consecrated Virginity, Hermits, single hood with service, etc.

I wrote a long answer to this a while back, I will look for it and post here
 
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