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MarthaMartha
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I always felt I was in Heaven when I attended Latin mass as a youngster, especially when the choir was singing.
What is your favorite thing about the traditional Latin Mass?
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Chris_Jacobsen
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I voted for other. The music in the traditional Latin Mass is great!
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Steve_Green
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Everything !!!
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INRI
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I chose the atmosphere and reverence. There is something about having a priest process in to Gregorian Chant during the High Mass that just puts your mind on the right place.
Of course, everything on the poll could fall under “atmosphere and reverence” if you applied a wide enough definition.
Enter a brief plug for the Church that made me fall in love with the TLM - St. Mary’s oratory in Wausau, WI. I was stuck in the middle of cow country for a year expecting to find a spiritual desert, and instead found this jewel. Look in their gallery for a picture of their main altar - it’s to die for!
institute-christ-king.org/index.html
Incidentally, I had a good friend of mine recently join the ICR’s order of nuns. She’ll be moving to Tuscany in September! Here’s their website: institute-christ-king.org/AdorersRoyalHeart.htm
Of course, everything on the poll could fall under “atmosphere and reverence” if you applied a wide enough definition.
Enter a brief plug for the Church that made me fall in love with the TLM - St. Mary’s oratory in Wausau, WI. I was stuck in the middle of cow country for a year expecting to find a spiritual desert, and instead found this jewel. Look in their gallery for a picture of their main altar - it’s to die for!
institute-christ-king.org/index.html
Incidentally, I had a good friend of mine recently join the ICR’s order of nuns. She’ll be moving to Tuscany in September! Here’s their website: institute-christ-king.org/AdorersRoyalHeart.htm
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jennypekny
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Steve Green:
I couldn’t agree more! Also, which wasn’t one of the options, I love the solemn reverance and obediance to the ruberics (sp?) of the mass.
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Delgadoajj
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I read all the posts here, and I wish the TLM was in my parish. I attend St. Martha Catholic Church in Kingwood, TX. They have the NO masses, including a “Life Teen Mass” which is very “upbeat” and “dynamic”, but I have had a longing for the TLM that I can’t explain. :bowdown: I’ve never been to one. The nearest parish that has permission from the archbishop is in downtown Houston, TX.
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bartolomeo
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Favourite thing? Well for me the biggest advantage of Latin Mass is the tradition and long history of celebrating Holy Mass in this language. Very often i go to the old-one monastery in the morning in my city and everyday monks pray there with gregorian chants, i feel like i’ve been there for centuries and nothing changed… the next great thing is that latin is more simillar to original - primary versions of various prayers - of course closer to them are greek versions, but now we’re talking about latin. In Latin i can understand, i can see some prayers in other way from another site - for the ages the translators and interpreters diversified prayers, changed words - and sometime unfortunatelly changed meaning…
For me Latin Mass is some "come back " to the catholic roots, although of course the majority of primary christians didn’t speak latin…
For me Latin Mass is some "come back " to the catholic roots, although of course the majority of primary christians didn’t speak latin…
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AServantofGod
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It is beautiful to feel God’s presence throughout the entire mass.
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OutinChgoburbs
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I don’t particularly dislike it, but I prefer my Mass in the venacular. I don’t have a problem with Latin, which is a good grounding for English BTW. I don’t have to necessarily see what’s going on at the altar, although it is helpful. I don’t mind kneeling to receive our Lord (our parish never yanked out the altar rails, and they are BEAUTIFUL), but don’t mind bowing and standing, either. I don’t like the little old ladies off someplace else with their rosaries. I don’t like hats or veils (I am a veteran of the beanie and “hat clip” a giant headband with a painful rivet on either side, worn right above the ears). I don’t like the “tsk-tsk” of people who feel Latin, particularly in the Tridententine, is so superior over venacular. Is it because mine was one of the first First Communion classes to go English in 1965? Do I feel more engaged in English? Got me. That’s the way I prefer it, though. Maybe some day, I’ll have to attend an indult for the venacular.
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ibelieveit
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I guess I just don’t get it! I am a cradle Catholic and “cut my teeth” on the Latin Mass. I have very fond memories of serving as an altar boy, learning my Latin responses, ect. But would I rather celebrate the Mass in english----you betcha! For the life of me, I don’t understand the allure of the old Latin Mass. Why is it that some say they feel the presence of Chist there and not when english is being spoken? Hey, remember that Jesus spoke Aramaic–not Latin. Don’t get me wrong, if that’s what you need to meet your Lord, by all means do it. It’s just that I don’t understand why. Peace
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Genesis315
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I love the silence during the canon as well. I also like how the priest, like the rest of us, faces Christ crucified and Christ in the Tabernacle. Even before I ever went to a TLM, my dad told me how the priest faced the other way and that just made so much more sense to me.
I also like the language of the TLM–and I don’t mean Latin, I mean more like the diction.
I also like the last Gospel reading and the full genuflect instead of the bow during it as well as during the Credo.
I could go on and on…
I also like the language of the TLM–and I don’t mean Latin, I mean more like the diction.
I also like the last Gospel reading and the full genuflect instead of the bow during it as well as during the Credo.
I could go on and on…
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Anima_Christi
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In my opinion, it’s not just the use of Latin that makes the TLM more attractive. It is all the gestures, the prayers, the profound reverence, and all of the rich traditions that make the Traditional Latin Mass so appealing.
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AServantofGod
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Maybe it’s not the Latin so much as the reverance which is felt during a Tridentine Mass. In our church the priests often feel free to laugh or make comments if a mistake is made; not that I’m against humor, but it takes away from the reverence and focus of the mass. That’s just one example.
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Anima_Christi
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It’s not just the use of Latin that makes the TLM more attractive. It is all the gestures, the prayers, the profound reverence, and all of the rich traditions that make the Traditional Latin Mass so appealing. IMHO, a Tridentine Mass celebrated in English (does anyone know if this has ever or could ever be done, btw?) would still be more beautiful than a Novus Ordo Mass celebrated in Latin.
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OrthoCath
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ibelieveit,
I was born way past Vatican II. All I have known was the NO mass. Once I went to my first TLM I felt like I was at home and at peace. To me the TLM is so more appealing. Perhaps all the Liturgical abuses spoiled me every appreciating the NO.
All I know for me I will NEVER go to another NO mass. It makes me sad and I get so frustrated at the priest doing something new or changing the words, etc. I would say honestly it does me harm to go to a NO mass. For some odd reason I get hateful thoughts at the priest for his abuses, lack of reverence, etc.
I guess I have issues!
I was born way past Vatican II. All I have known was the NO mass. Once I went to my first TLM I felt like I was at home and at peace. To me the TLM is so more appealing. Perhaps all the Liturgical abuses spoiled me every appreciating the NO.
All I know for me I will NEVER go to another NO mass. It makes me sad and I get so frustrated at the priest doing something new or changing the words, etc. I would say honestly it does me harm to go to a NO mass. For some odd reason I get hateful thoughts at the priest for his abuses, lack of reverence, etc.
I guess I have issues!
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AServantofGod
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Whoops! I made it seem as though the laughing & commentary by the priests is occuring during the Tridentine Mass. Sorry! I was referring to our parish which uses the NO mass. Wonderful people - a bit misguided.
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Scotty_PGH
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What a beautiful Church!
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EJ79
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Anima Christi:
Except for the Roman Canon, which interestingly enough the rubrics still required to be prayed in Latin universally - it allowed for the vernacular almost everywhere else, and was essentially a translation of the Tridentine Rite into the vernacular. The only things supressed were parts of Psalm 42 at the foot of the altar, and the Last Gospel - but everything else was left intact and beautifully translated!
The readings and the collects are especially beautiful and faithfully translated - and the original Latin appeared in the margins next to the prayers in the vernacular, presumably so the priest could celebrate the Mass either entirely in Latin or in the vernacular, or using both for certain parts. I treasure my copy which I found at a parish yard sale, they were throwing away a unique part of history.
See if you can ever get your hands on a copy of the 1965 edition of the Roman Missal. It was the first Missal printed in the vernacular by decree of Vatican II - but it’s NOT the Novus Ordo Missal of 1970. This beautiful Missal was in place from Advent 1964 to the beginning of Advent 1969, when it was replaced by the Pauline Novus Ordo.
Except for the Roman Canon, which interestingly enough the rubrics still required to be prayed in Latin universally - it allowed for the vernacular almost everywhere else, and was essentially a translation of the Tridentine Rite into the vernacular. The only things supressed were parts of Psalm 42 at the foot of the altar, and the Last Gospel - but everything else was left intact and beautifully translated!
The readings and the collects are especially beautiful and faithfully translated - and the original Latin appeared in the margins next to the prayers in the vernacular, presumably so the priest could celebrate the Mass either entirely in Latin or in the vernacular, or using both for certain parts. I treasure my copy which I found at a parish yard sale, they were throwing away a unique part of history.
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EJ79
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Anima Christi:
adoremus.org/Quattuorabhincannos.html
I should add that no, the Tridentine Mass may never be celebrated in the vernacular. This was stipulated by the Holy See in 1984, when it first granted limited permission for the celebration of the 1962 Missal. (See link below to read “Stipulation C” of the 1984 indult).
adoremus.org/Quattuorabhincannos.html
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palmas85
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I guess it would be the reverence that is there. I will give one example. I attend a Novus Ordo Mass at a fairly conservative parish on weekdays and the Traditional Latin Mass(indult) on Sundays and Holy days. Last Saturday, at the Novus Ordo Mass, the Priest, came out carrying a bottle of what I guess was water, and after taking a drink sat it on the altar and proceeded with the mass. Whenever he got thirsty he would take a drink and replace the bottle on the altar. Maybe I’m nitpicking, but the mass only lasted about twenty minutes to begin with and I don’t think he would have died of thirst during that time. I really cannot imagine a priest at a Traditional Mass using the altar in that fashion. Of course I have heard some people say that the altar is really just a table anyway in the new mass so maybe he felt justified in using it as a table. I was really really disappointed.
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