What is your opinion of this article about Evangelicals vs. Roman Catholics? Please read before responding. God bless!šŸ™

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The anonymous individual by his choices proves his point, k=likely without awareness that his choice proves his case. It is widely acknowledged that catechesis took a wrong turn and went over the cliff after Vatican 2; and the writer is likely a second generation of poorly to extremely poorly catechized Catholics. It seems clear that the writer had no real concept of the Eucharist nor how the Evangelical churches wander around the issue without addressing it.
 
The Catholic Church was doing that centuries and centuries before the Protestant revolution occurred.
 
You did not answer the question. There is a reason the Reformation was allowed by God. The Catholic Church must look at itself honestly and ask WHY God allows these divisions to continue. Itā€™s not simply to respect free will. Are we listening to the Holy Spirit? Are we open to hearing the Holy Spirit? Do we follow its guidance wherever it leads, even if it means abandoning beloved things Jesus never intended.
 
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glencor63 said:
I think remaining in a church knowing you believe none of what it teaches does not honor God
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I believe you are correct.

At the same time as someone who believes the Catholic Church presents the fullness of the faith given to us by Jesus Christ Himself Iā€™ve got to believe lack of faith in the Catholic Church has root in some evil. Ego, greed, wrathā€¦ lustā€¦

Something is not right in that individual.

As a Catholic I cannot believe God would lead someone away from the Church. It is someone else.
 
ā€œAs a Catholic I cannot believe God would lead someone away from the Church. It is someone elseā€.

And if we are wrong? What then?
 
Oh yes, I did. You are trying to play a game I wonā€™t play. The Catholic Church was in the Americas well before the Protestants; and individual laity who were Catholic contributed to significant problems after arriving.

The Protestants also contributed their share of problems upon arriving. As to God using them, I have a problem with your analogy; the Protestants brought part of the Gospel to the Americas, and brought their heresies as well. So we can agree they brought partial truths. Beyond that, I am not going to continue this part of the conversation.
 
Read what I have written. If you donā€™t get it, you will be able to find plenty of company.

For me, I am willing to trust Christ and the Holy Spirit.
 
And God tolerated the ā€œpartial truthsā€. WHY? Itā€™s a question that must be asked and answered. WHY?
 
For the same reason God has tolerated the human race since Adam and Eve sinned.
 
I am a convert. I love my Catholic faith, but Iā€™ve had to go outside the Catholic Church on numerous occasions to find spiritual sustenance. I stay for the Eucharist.
 
South America is leaving the Catholic Church by the millions and too many do not know the faith.
 
You are saying that the holy Spirit could, or would, act against the other persons in the trinity. That doesnā€™t make sense.

As if the holy Spirit is like an annoying family member who walks behind you and ā€œfixesā€ what they think you did incorrectly.
 
Iā€™m saying that the Holy Spirit will do whatever it needs to do and use whomever it wants to use in order to feed Jesusā€™ sheep. If a ā€œpartialā€ truth is the means to accomplish its goal, then so be it.
 
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A church with reasonable concepts that I, in good conscience, could believe in. My beliefs are what many would consider new-age, so that probably tells you are lot of what you need to know.

I believe the best any if us can do, with regards to the spiritual, is speculate. So it would have to be an organization that shares that concept.

For me to participate, it would not be able to claim it is a one true church. That would be a deal-breaker for me. LOL.
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Iā€™m genuinely glad you come online and discuss what you believe. You certainly could not get away with saying anything like that in church šŸ˜‰.

I was going to respond, but @otjm beat me too it.
otjm said:
I would suggest that you read John^:60-71. Some, who did not understand what Christ was teaching (e.g. the Apostles) stayed the course; others abandoned Christ - and I suspect that those in the section I note felt they did it in good conscience.

Just possibly, the Holy Spirit guides the Church (at least, that was what Christ promised) and if that is true, then like those over the last 2,000 years who have been confronted with doctrines they either did not understand or had problems accepting, we too need to put aside out own intellectual pride and submit to Christ.

And if anyone says that is easy, that person is a liar.
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I was going to say that you will of course struggle with some of what the Catholic Church teaches, believes, and practices. I struggle with some of it. However, part of being a Catholic is fundamentally a choice to submit.
 
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Perhaps in the countries of Eastern Europe and the former Soviet camp, the initial Protestantism had at first a Germanic or English trace, but in the next twenty years an American Protestant missionary was actively sowing here.
The same can certainly be said about the East Asian countries experiencing economic growth as well.
( As a result, Protestant communities in some regions are already competing with traditional beliefs. (in Romania, for example, Protestants in some regions compete with the Orthodox, in South Korea, Protestants compete with Buddhism, if I am not mistaken)
 
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glencor63 said:
Are we listening to the Holy Spirit?
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No, people who leave the only Church Jesus created are not listening to the holy Spirit. Perhaps they arenā€™t picking up what the holy Spirit is laying down.
 
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South America is leaving the Catholic Church by the millions and too many do not know the faith.
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But that wasnā€™t the point you originally made. It wasnā€™t the Protestant reformation that spread the Gospel to South America.
 
Remember too that in many Catholic circles, spreading the Catholic message has long been considered gauche if not worse. It boggles the mind.
 
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