What is your reaction to woman wearing a mantilla?

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With all that’s going on, especially lately, in the world, why are people so opposed to this simple expression of faith, respect, devotion, humility, and modesty?

It’s not wrong or sinful. If one’s going to go to all the trouble of attacking something, why not focus on something that is.
 
Hi there. I’ve been wearing a mantilla for 5 years. I attend the Novus Ordo primarily and the EF occasionally. I observe the postures appropriate to each one, meaning that when I’m at the Novus Ordo Mass I stand for the Our Father and the Lamb of God. When I’m at the EF I would kneel for those. I dress and veil the same for each because both are the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

Hope this helps. God bless you.🙂
This is very similar to my own experiences, as well (except I’ve only attended the EF a handful of times).

A few ladies in my parish other than me do wear a head covering, though it’s still fairly uncommon, so occasionally, I do get odd looks. I have found, however, that if I wear it regularly, arrive a little earlier than most to Mass, smile and nod politely at those who stare, and don’t wear a “troublesome” veil that keeps trying to slip, then others around me seem to adapt to it quickly and don’t appear to find it distracting during Mass.

Though I do love looking at the prettiest veils, I usually don’t purchase/wear them because my reasons for covering my head are not about attracting attention, catching the eye, or being pretty. I feel that choosing something that looks like a bridal veil or a fancy, intricate lace could, for me, be a temptation to vanity (though I’m not saying that it would be for everyone). And metallic threads catch the light, and therefore, also often catch the eye.

Instead, I choose practical ones that are attractive, but don’t slip too easily, and basic colors that don’t clash too much with my outfits (which could also be distracting!). My favorite, especially for cold weather, is this one, which I have in a burgundy color (and I have a similar one in brown): artfire.com/ext/shop/product_view/VelleMere/8331446/shell_stitch_crocheted_catholic_chapel_veil__mobius_wrap_in_white/handmade/crochet/accessories/scarves

I love the crocheted ones because, even with my baby-fine straight hair, I don’t have to use bobby pins to hold them in place and they don’t blow away with every little draft. 👍
 
Oh, and as to dressing up for mass, people used to always dress up for mass! That’s where we got the expression “Sunday best”. People used to wear their very best clothes to mass on Sunday!

It’s how we are supposed to give our best…our “first fruits” of our work, our time, treasure, talents, etc.
I have never heard of the “first fruits” and dressing up for Mass.
It seems to contradict the idea of dressing humbly which is characteristic of the mantilla.
 
Hi ClearWater,

I totally agree with you. 🙂

I remember when ladies would dress up with hats and gloves and really fine coats, too.

Hi MtnDwellar,

This used to be the case, where people would really get dressed up for church years ago, just like I mentioned above. Children would be dressed up, too. If you were a little girl, you would be wearing a dress to church. 🙂
 
Hi ClearWater,

I totally agree with you. 🙂

I remember when ladies would dress up with hats and gloves and really fine coats, too.
That is how I remember my granny dressing to go to ‘town’ as well as to church - that was how women dressed for important occasions back then. Things have changed.
This used to be the case, where people would really get dressed up for church years ago, just like I mentioned above. Children would be dressed up, too. If you were a little girl, you would be wearing a dress to church. 🙂
Dressing in general has become less formal. I still see people wearing their smarter clothes to church though.
 
I used to have a fine wool scarf/shawl I would
wear to daily Mass. In the few days after 9/11,
I got spit on and screamed at. People thought
I was supporting terrorism. No joke. For the
remainder of the time I spent in that town
I wouldn’t wear a headcovering except for an
obvious hat.

Mary
 
I have never heard of the “first fruits” and dressing up for Mass.
It seems to contradict the idea of dressing humbly which is characteristic of the mantilla.
I think you’re confusing dressing modestly/humbly with dressing “down,” or being casual or “common.” It’s entirely possible to “dress up” for Mass and still do it humbly and modestly–in fact, it has often been done in the past, and in some places, it is still done. 😉

Seriously, if you think about the way we would approach a personal visit to the home of a favorite movie star, or the Queen of England, or the Pope… wouldn’t most of us dress better than our everyday-wear, out of respect for our host or hostess? Most of us would probably wear the best we have that is appropriate for the occasion (and many of us would purchase something special just for that occasion). Yet we treat a visit to God’s House–being in the Presence of the King of Kings–as so “common” and “ordinary” that many of us don’t even bother to consider how we present ourselves, like we would do for a famous human being. I’ve been guilty of it, too, I’m sorry to say. 😦

Certainly, I’d rather that everyone show up in jeans and t-shirts than to skip Mass entirely simply because they didn’t have a nicer outfit clean… but then again, would we allow the laundry to pile up so much if we knew we were going to be visiting, say, President Obama (even if you don’t like Obama)?

So, yes, please… respect, reverence… but especially, relationship. How do we actually treat Our Father, Whom we claim to love and worship?

Just my thoughts.
 
I think they are pretty, and I assume she has personally been led to wear it. So I smile at my sister and am happy for her.
 
I think you’re confusing dressing modestly/humbly with dressing “down,” or being casual or “common.” It’s entirely possible to “dress up” for Mass and still do it humbly and modestly–in fact, it has often been done in the past, and in some places, it is still done. 😉

Seriously, if you think about the way we would approach a personal visit to the home of a favorite movie star, or the Queen of England, or the Pope… wouldn’t most of us dress better than our everyday-wear, out of respect for our host or hostess? Most of us would probably wear the best we have that is appropriate for the occasion (and many of us would purchase something special just for that occasion). Yet we treat a visit to God’s House–being in the Presence of the King of Kings–as so “common” and “ordinary” that many of us don’t even bother to consider how we present ourselves, like we would do for a famous human being. I’ve been guilty of it, too, I’m sorry to say. 😦

Certainly, I’d rather that everyone show up in jeans and t-shirts than to skip Mass entirely simply because they didn’t have a nicer outfit clean… but then again, would we allow the laundry to pile up so much if we knew we were going to be visiting, say, President Obama (even if you don’t like Obama)?

So, yes, please… respect, reverence… but especially, relationship. How do we actually treat Our Father, Whom we claim to love and worship?

Just my thoughts.
Thanks for trying to explain. I understand modesty. I don’t understand what is meant by humble dress up. From the freeonlinedictionary:
dress ( oneself ) up
to dress in fancy dress. They dressed themselves up in their finest. Please dress up for the dance.
See also: dress, up
dress someone or something up
to make someone or something appear fancier than is actually so. The publicity specialist dressed the actress up a lot. They dressed up the hall so it looked like a ballroom.
Do you mean something else by the phrase “dress up”? According to these definitions dressing up is not compatible with humility. I was always told to wear the least expensive clothes that meet the requirements of modesty, warmth, etc.

Movie stars and the queen may care about my appearance. Luckily, they aren’t present at Mass. While Jesus is present and we are participating in His sacrifice of Himself to His own Father, I think He probably only cares about our interior condition rather than exterior appearance.

Just my thoughts.
 
Thanks for trying to explain. I understand modesty. I don’t understand what is meant by humble dress up. From the freeonlinedictionary:

Do you mean something else by the phrase “dress up”? According to these definitions dressing up is not compatible with humility. I was always told to wear the least expensive clothes that meet the requirements of modesty, warmth, etc.

Movie stars and the queen may care about my appearance. Luckily, they aren’t present at Mass. While Jesus is present and we are participating in His sacrifice of Himself to His own Father, I think He probably only cares about our interior condition rather than exterior appearance.

Just my thoughts.
By “dressing up” I don’t mean trying to project a fancier or more expensive image, so perhaps I’m choosing the wrong phrase here. I’m just referring to wearing something nicer than our common, every day clothing. A woman who normally wears jeans and no makeup could be “dressed up” in a casual skirt and a little eyeshadow, because it’s sort of a “step up” from the usual.

By using the example of movie stars, I was simply saying that most of us would take some time to consider our exterior appearance, because we tend to care what people think. My point is that most of us don’t consider that the Mass is NOT an ordinary, unremarkable activity, and perhaps our choice of clothing should reflect that.

And I’m certainly not suggesting that we should be more concerned with our exterior than interior condition. I’m simply saying that we shouldn’t completely ignore the exterior, either, because we are (or should be) presenting our whole self at Mass.
 
By “dressing up” I don’t mean trying to project a fancier or more expensive image, so perhaps I’m choosing the wrong phrase here. I’m just referring to wearing something nicer than our common, every day clothing. A woman who normally wears jeans and no makeup could be “dressed up” in a casual skirt and a little eyeshadow, because it’s sort of a “step up” from the usual.

By using the example of movie stars, I was simply saying that most of us would take some time to consider our exterior appearance, because we tend to care what people think. My point is that most of us don’t consider that the Mass is NOT an ordinary, unremarkable activity, and perhaps our choice of clothing should reflect that.

And I’m certainly not suggesting that we should be more concerned with our exterior than interior condition. I’m simply saying that we shouldn’t completely ignore the exterior, either, because we are (or should be) presenting our whole self at Mass.
Thanks for further explaining. I think I understand why people dress up.
 
One gets tired of this stuff. I was raised by a woman
who was catechized in the Eastern Church. Sometimes
I make the Sign of the Cross left to right and sometimes
right to left. Sometimes MY cross making causes
others to comment, snicker etc and others ignore
it. My priest just laughs and says Having an Eastern
day, Mary? He gets it.
The other day I mentioned to my husband
that I would like to go back to head coverings.
He’s all for it as I wire them for years. But there
is exactly one woman in our entire parish who
covers her head and I know the scuttlebutt will
be worse than my cross signing if suddenly I start
wearing head coverings so I’m waiting for a good
snowstorm lol.
But really? If everyone in your pew has a
prayer card to the Holy Spirit but you have one
to the Little Flower, does it make you a weirdo?
People need to start spending more time worrying
about their own business or like my husband
who just takes his glasses off and can’t see who
is wearing or doing what. That is refreshing. This
nitpicking gets so tiresome.
You want a mantilla? Wear a mantilla.
You sign right to left? So be it.
After all your soul belongs to you and God not
the busybody in the second pew over.
I’m really amazed that people actually pay that much attention to others. I’m Byzantine, but I attend daily Mass at a Latin parish and have spent many years in Latin parishes. I make the sign of the cross right to left and I always have. Nobody has ever said anything to me about it, except for Sister Paul in 1st grade. She felt it necessary to correct it because it was her job to teach me how to make the sign “correctly”. Nobody else has ever noticed, or if they have, they’ve never said anything. Sometimes, I have my 3 year old with me at daily Mass, and he receives communion. I’m assuming people have noticed and might wonder, but nobody has ever approached me about it. People really need to stop paying so much attention to what others do.
 
Hi again MtnDwellar,

I would like to help explain “dressing up” a little bit more, too.

When I go to church, I like to look as nice as possible. I will wear the nicest clothes that I have. They are not fancy, by any means.

I try to look as nice as possible, out of respect for being with the Lord, in His house. 🙂

That is how I look at it and think about it.

As I mentioned, I grew up in a time when people would wear the finest clothes that they had, to go to church. They didn’t do it to outshine each other. This was just part of the culture at the time. Ladies used to wear dresses and men used to wear suits.

They would also do the same when visiting other’s homes, especially during the holidays. It was done out of respect for one another, too. That was how it was done back in those days.

It was not unusual to see ladies wearing mantillas in church. My Mother used to wear one.
 
I try to look as nice as possible, out of respect for being with the Lord, in His house. 🙂
Hi oldgraymare2. Is is OK if I just call you Mare?

I see how you view the subject. We have different understandings of how God wants us to be respectful. "Let me become lesser so that He may become greater.’

When I was a child, my father always wore one of his good flannel shirts to Mass. That’s a shirt that wasn’t stained from work.👍 My mother and sister wore makeup for dances or parties, but never to Mass. We showed our respect to the Lord by standing straight with our hands folded, not talking in church, sitting with our palms on our lap, and by genuflecting when we entered or left our pew.
 
PIETY - One of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit

It isn’t just the gift of the Saints. We can ALL practice piety. I once heard St. John Paul II say that every act of piety is an “I love You” to God. Love is an action and our lay piety is our love made manifest before God. Whether it is an old man wearing his best flannel to Church and removing his hat in the vestibule or a little girl learning the ins and outs of keeping her Chapel veil on her head because now she’s old enough to wear one or the fumbled genuflections of the kindergarten class as they file into their pews on Friday, these all matter to God. He gave them to us thru His Church. They are a crown on the heads of some Saints in Heaven They shine before the throne of God as mostly small acts by each and every one of us. Each act of piety is recorded upon the Sacred Heart of Jesus. They aren’t His crown of thorns but the Loving Flames encircling It. You cannot be too pious. It really says “I love You” to God. The more you use piety, the more it grows.

Glenda
 
PIETY - One of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit

It isn’t just the gift of the Saints. We can ALL practice piety. I once heard St. John Paul II say that every act of piety is an “I love You” to God. Love is an action and our lay piety is our love made manifest before God. Whether it is an old man wearing his best flannel to Church and removing his hat in the vestibule or a little girl learning the ins and outs of keeping her Chapel veil on her head because now she’s old enough to wear one or the fumbled genuflections of the kindergarten class as they file into their pews on Friday, these all matter to God. He gave them to us thru His Church. They are a crown on the heads of some Saints in Heaven They shine before the throne of God as mostly small acts by each and every one of us. Each act of piety is recorded upon the Sacred Heart of Jesus. They aren’t His crown of thorns but the Loving Flames encircling It. You cannot be too pious. It really says “I love You” to God. The more you use piety, the more it grows.

Glenda
Love this post!
 
I am purposely not posting this in the Traditional forum because I would like the opinion of Catholics who don’t normally attend the Extraordinary Form of the Mass. I know that outside of the TLM, most women do not wear anything on their heads when they are in church, so it is definitely out of the norm. How do you feel when you see a woman wearing a mantilla in Church? Do you find it somehow offensive and/or distracting, or is it no big deal to you?

Thanks.
I never see it these days. I would’m mind seeing it. I think some of them are beautiful.
 
HI again MtnDwellar,

That’s fine. You can call me Mare. 🙂

Thank you for your explanation. I totally understand what you are saying.

I always find it interesting to hear what others have to think and to share. 👍
 
Personally I wish the wearing of a head covering for women came back, as I am very traditional and they can look so elegant, mantilla’s come in such lovely colors and as for hats elegant. I sometimes go to a Tridentine Mass and all the women have something on there head, so that would include me.
I completely agree -
 
Personally I wish the wearing of a head covering for women came back, as I am very traditional and they can look so elegant, mantilla’s come in such lovely colors and as for hats elegant. I sometimes go to a Tridentine Mass and all the women have something on there head, so that would include me.
I was born after Vatican II. I think head coverings were a beautiful sign of respect for God, and I, too, wish they would come back. I have never worn one because I don’t want to stand out in the crowd or cause distraction, but I think it’s sad we left that behind, and I love it when I see other women wear them.
 
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