What is your reaction to woman wearing a mantilla?

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marywarfield said:
One gets tired of this stuff. I was raised by a woman
who was catechized in the Eastern Church. Sometimes
I make the Sign of the Cross left to right and sometimes
right to left. Sometimes MY cross making causes
others to comment, snicker etc and others ignore
it. My priest just laughs and says Having an Eastern
day, Mary? He gets it.
The other day I mentioned to my husband
that I would like to go back to head coverings.
He’s all for it as I wire them for years. But there
is exactly one woman in our entire parish who
covers her head and I know the scuttlebutt will
be worse than my cross signing if suddenly I start
wearing head coverings so I’m waiting for a good
snowstorm lol.
But really? If everyone in your pew has a
prayer card to the Holy Spirit but you have one
to the Little Flower, does it make you a weirdo?
People need to start spending more time worrying
about their own business or like my husband
who just takes his glasses off and can’t see who
is wearing or doing what. That is refreshing. This
nitpicking gets so tiresome.
You want a mantilla? Wear a mantilla.
You sign right to left? So be it.
After all your soul belongs to you and God not
the busybody in the second pew over.
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If I could Facebook like this I totally would 😃 👍
 
When I was a child most women over a certain age would wear these in church.

I haven’t seen one since childhood though.

Better than seeing cleavage spilling out, gum being chewed, hot pants and flip flops.
 
I’m not realy a tredationist but I would love to start wearing one. Only no one in my church does. There is one Mixacan old lady that wears it I respect her for that. Another woman I see sometimes wearing one sometimes not. I have a Mantilla and hope I could start wearing it again. I don’t see anthing wrong with that.
 
For me it emphasizes the sacredness of what is going on at mass. It points to the fact that we are in the presence of our Heavenly King, it’s a sign of respect to our Lord and what the mass actually is.

It is between you, the Lord, and Mother Mary… that is all that should matter.
 
Brooklyn said:
I am purposely not posting this in the Traditional forum because I would like the opinion of Catholics who don’t normally attend the Extraordinary Form of the Mass. I know that outside of the TLM, most women do not wear anything on their heads when they are in church, so it is definitely out of the norm. How do you feel when you see a woman wearing a mantilla in Church? Do you find it somehow offensive and/or distracting, or is it no big deal to you?

Thanks.
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I see more wen in the Ordinary Form adopting various forms of head-coverings. Since every time Our Lady appears she appears with her head covered, it reminds me that all women whether married or not share the profound dignity of Holy motherhood. It lends dignity to the wearer - far from being distracting I think it would incline those seeing it to greater prayer.
 
My reaction is neutral, I guess. If a woman wants to wear one, that’s her prerogative. If she doesn’t want to wear one, that’s fine too.
 
Brooklyn said:
I am purposely not posting this in the Traditional forum because I would like the opinion of Catholics who don’t normally attend the Extraordinary Form of the Mass. I know that outside of the TLM, most women do not wear anything on their heads when they are in church, so it is definitely out of the norm. How do you feel when you see a woman wearing a mantilla in Church? Do you find it somehow offensive and/or distracting, or is it no big deal to you?

Thanks.
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I always get delighted when I see women wearing a mantilla. Why? Well, it feels so catholic and right. I wish more women wore it because it is part of the Church’s tradition. Wearing mantilla was not abolished at Vatican II - somehow people thought it was not necessary anymore. I don’t know why that happened. It’s a pity. I started to wear mantilla maybe 6 -7 years ago because for me it is a sign of respect and honour to God and of the holy Eucharist. It’s a matter of profane vs. sacred. - Maybe it even helps you to concentrate more on prayer and the Liturgy.
 
Brooklyn said:
I am purposely not posting this in the Traditional forum because I would like the opinion of Catholics who don’t normally attend the Extraordinary Form of the Mass. I know that outside of the TLM, most women do not wear anything on their heads when they are in church, so it is definitely out of the norm. How do you feel when you see a woman wearing a mantilla in Church? Do you find it somehow offensive and/or distracting, or is it no big deal to you?

Thanks.
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I really don’t care. To me it’s one of those non-essentials. If a woman finds it helpful, well good for her.
 
CarmelJerome said:
I see more wen in the Ordinary Form adopting various forms of head-coverings. Since every time Our Lady appears she appears with her head covered,.
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Well, yes, but she is also usually depicted as wearing flowing robes. Should women be wearing those?
 
Lungoverde said:
I always get delighted when I see women wearing a mantilla. Why? Well, it feels so catholic and right. I wish more women wore it because it is part of the Church’s tradition. Wearing mantilla was not abolished at Vatican II - somehow people thought it was not necessary anymore. I don’t know why that happened. It’s a pity. I started to wear mantilla maybe 6 -7 years ago because for me it is a sign of respect and honour to God and of the holy Eucharist. It’s a matter of profane vs. sacred. - Maybe it even helps you to concentrate more on prayer and the Liturgy.
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Wearing a mantilla is not, I repeat, is not a Catholic tradition. It is a tradition among Hispanic Catholics but not all Catholics.

There are other types of head coverings.
 
Hello Paperwight.
paperwight66 said:
Well, yes, but she is also usually depicted as wearing flowing robes. Should women be wearing those?
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Why the sarcasm? The Mother of God covers her head and has been seen by many in that way and over the centuries they’ve even described her veils in various forms. Why does this cause you to react in such a way when it is pointed out regarding women who veil in imitation of her?

There was a time when most women were covered pretty much from head to toe and that wasn’t just for fashion. Only in the last century and the new one are women seen in less than modest clothes en masse. It was even pointed out by the Mother of God at Fatima that the fashions forthcoming would offend God very much and this was one of the reasons those children and subsequently the Church herself was asked by the Mother of God to do penance. This conversation regarding the fashions of the day and the offense they are to God was between the three Saints and the Mother of God and was considered part of the prophetic voice in the Fatima message. There are millions who have been influenced by Fatima and it will continue to influence folks the world over for hundreds of years to come.

I veil as I’ve said before. One question I use when discussing this is: If Mary, the Mother of God veils, why wouldn’t you?

Glenda
 
glendab said:
Hello Paperwight.

Why the sarcasm? The Mother of God covers her head and has been seen by many in that way and over the centuries they’ve even described her veils in various forms. Why does this cause you to react in such a way when it is pointed out regarding women who veil in imitation of her?

There was a time when most women were covered pretty much from head to toe and that wasn’t just for fashion. Only in the last century and the new one are women seen in less than modest clothes en masse. It was even pointed out by the Mother of God at Fatima that the fashions forthcoming would offend God very much and this was one of the reasons those children and subsequently the Church herself was asked by the Mother of God to do penance. This conversation regarding the fashions of the day and the offense they are to God was between the three Saints and the Mother of God and was considered part of the prophetic voice in the Fatima message. There are millions who have been influenced by Fatima and it will continue to influence folks the world over for hundreds of years to come.

I veil as I’ve said before. One question I use when discussing this is: If Mary, the Mother of God veils, why wouldn’t you?

Glenda
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Does Mary always wear a veil in apparitions? Do the visionaries start wearing a veil after seeing Mary?
 
Hello BruisedReed.
Bruised_Reed said:
Does Mary always wear a veil in apparitions? Do the visionaries start wearing a veil after seeing Mary?
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You ask an un-answerable question in your first. I’d have to know the future, which I don’t. As for Fatima, the younger girl, Jacinta wasn’t sporting a head scarf at the time, but the older, Lucia was. It was the custom there at that time that an older girl kept her head covered at all times, so when she went to Church, she was already ready. Young boys wore head coverings as well, and in fact Francesco mentioned the joy he felt in just entering the church and removing his hat while there out of reverence. You can look this stuff up on your own and it would do you soul some good to read a reliable account of the events. I recommend Walsh’s book if you can find a copy. I have several and his is the best. Be careful though, some have highjacked the Fatima message for their own agendas and have distorted the message to suit their purposes, for their own shame. Too bad.

Glenda
 
I voted “I find it distracting”. It’s not objectively negative to wear them, but in the mindset of the Novus Ordo Missae that I attend, it has become distracting. Because I’ve only been to celebrations of that Mass - which generally excludes the mantilla - I cannot speak of the habit of the Usus Antiquior. Presumably the mantilla is universal there?

I’d love to see the mantilla make a come-back, but in the present context, to see one woman wearing it when no one else does is just a sort of showy Singularity. Not that I really care all that much, for the sake of myself - I just worry about the hearts of the individual women who dress themselves up like that. Perhaps it’s an “invasion of privacy” by modern standards… but I actually care, that’s all.
 
Praedicare said:
I’d love to see the mantilla make a come-back, but in the present context, ***to see one woman wearing it when no one else does is just a sort of showy Singularity. ***Not that I really care all that much, for the sake of myself - I just worry about the hearts of the individual women who dress themselves up like that.
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Did you ever think that just maybe in her mind, she does it as a simple act of respect and humility before her Lord…and nothing more? Surely you wouldn’t want to take that from her…would you?

Peace, Mark
 
Sarcelle said:
Wearing a mantilla is not, I repeat, is not a Catholic tradition. It is a tradition among Hispanic Catholics but not all Catholics.

There are other types of head coverings.
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You are right. Mantilla (lace head covering) is originated in Spain. I just used the word ‘mantilla’ for different types of head coverings or veils which women used at Mass. In Latin rite women from different background used to wear mantilla. In my home parish few women from Middle East wear mantillas at Novus Ordo Mass. I bought my mantilla from UK and it was from the 60s. Using different types of head coverings at Mass IS a tradition in Roman Catholicism based on an Cor. 11:2-16.

BTW, one Jewish woman in USA sells beautiful head coverings in Ebay.
 
Mark121359 said:
Did you ever think that just maybe in her mind, she does it as a simple act of respect and humility before her Lord…and nothing more? Surely you wouldn’t want to take that from her…would you?

Peace, Mark
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That’s laying it on a bit thick, isn’t it? I suppose I was a little extreme too. I apologize. Forgive me, brother.

Anyway, I don’t think any such things should be taken from us. Our ancient little devotions are a deep part of us. Unity does not need Uniformity. I only raised a concern because I wonder if people become confused about the pastoral & canonical status of mantillas - both the One who wears it, and the Many who don’t.

Perhaps I’m just too legalistic. As a little boy once told my doctor: “You’re overthinkin’ it, Mike”. 🙂
 
glendab said:
I veil as I’ve said before. One question I use when discussing this is: If Mary, the Mother of God veils, why wouldn’t you?
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Because my sister isn’t the Mother of God and I highly doubt she wants to be. She’d sooner call herself Mina Salvatore, Vampire Heiress and start dressing in black, gothic lolita frills while carrying a matching umbrella even while the sun is up. :rotfl:
 
I’m excited to see this thread as I’m discerning wearing a chapel veil (which is why I searched for the term).

If God calls you to this practice, does it really matter what anyone else thinks/says/does? If He tells me to do it, I’d best obey - period.
 
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