What kind of a world would you create, if you had the power?

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Remember that the evil that is in the world entered in through man’s sin. God did not make the world with evil, man’s sin did that.
 
Well, what do you suggest?
If you start from the premise that the highest good is God, and this person flat rejected the highest good, then what happens next?
Remember, this is a person who didn’t want the highest good.
 
Well one problem I run into is how can God be for sure known. It seems you feel you have the truth and anyone rejecting your God would “choose” eternel damnation. There are millions of Muslisms who are equally sure they have the truth. If the Muslims are correct then according to what I have read then Christians would most likelybe eternally damned for associating partners with God. I have a hard time believing if this we’re the case the people who say hell is chosen would be so okay if they were the ones going to hell. Clearly you aren’t choosing Islamic or any other religions hell right now.
 
That’s a fair question.
I’m not going to go too deep into it because I don’t want to derail the thread.

in Catholic moral teaching, individual salvation depends on if a person died in a state of mortal sin.
To be in mortal sin, you had to do something serious, know it was serious, and do it on purpose.
The Church doesn’t despair of the salvation of people who die outside of the Church.

There are other threads that cover this, as well as books written, etc.

Peace!

(Sorry to derail thread, back to world-building…)
 
I forgot to add no disease or pollution of any sort. Recreating the garden of Eden. Light rail showers with well arched rainbow. No aging. There would be fairies, unicorns and mermaids. Everyone can sing well.
 
I would create heaven and forget the hell, purgatory, and earth part. But God has a bigger brain than me and is more powerful so I’ll go along with it. 😉
 
wkj_123 said:
There are millions of Muslisms who are equally sure they have the truth.
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And Islam seems to be growing a lot faster than Christianity. Our Muslim neighbor has six children and big families are common for Muslims living in Europe.
 
All of those problems stemmed from Original Sin and are not part of God’s original design.
 
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A previous poster said something about if we gave the world a tweak and then there were unintended consequences . My first thought was that a head louse’ only ecological niche was to live on the heads of humans. Nothing eats them, they don’t add any value to the ecology. If they vanished i don’t see any downside…
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Agreed. What about the rest? What is the point of having child-birth pains? Wouldn’t it be great if we were marsupials, and could raise the young ones in an external pouch? After all the process of birth is very traumatic, not just for the mother, but also for the child. No child is born with a smile on her face, they all scream their little heads off.
Brittany said:
Woah, woah, woah. I never said those things were good. Don’t put words in my mouth. Don’t assume so much, it’s a dishonest way of having discourse with somebody.
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You said that you would not change anything at all. As such they were implicitly included. If you wish to change your words, you are free and welcome to do so.
Jump4Joy said:
Everywhere would be tropic. No pollution of any sort. and everyone would be vegan. Lol.
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Ah, the wonders of the spicy Indian cuisine! If I would have to turn vegetarian, that would my way to go. Along with some sushi. (With some occasional roast duck or a juicy steak. But those delicacies would grow on specially designed bushes, and there would be no need to kill the animals.)
MCH1 said:
Remember that the evil that is in the world entered in through man’s sin. God did not make the world with evil, man’s sin did that.
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But it happened because God permitted it. Sin is only “sin” if God decides it to be sinful. I would not declare anything to be sinful. (Read the OP, please).
Jump4Joy said:
I forgot to add no disease or pollution of any sort. Recreating the garden of Eden. Light rail showers with well arched rainbow. No aging. There would be fairies, unicorns and mermaids. Everyone can sing well.
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I like your attitude. 🙂
SammyRose said:
All of those problems stemmed from Original Sin and are not part of God’s original design.
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Do you really mean that something, anything can happen if God does not want it to happen?
I am rather disappointed. I was hoping to have some serious conversation, not just a few superficial remarks. 😦
 
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Sophia said:
But it happened because God permitted it. Sin is only “sin” if God decides it to be sinful. I would not declare anything to be sinful. (Read the OP, please).
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You think that God just arbitrarily made murder sinful?
 
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Death would be temporary, with some small disadvantage, so people would try to avoid it.
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People don’t even do a lot to avoid real death, so good luck with that. Besides, why avoid…um, why do you call it a “death” instead of a “time-out”?

Your world sounds way too much like the miserable way people try to live right now. Don’t commit. Don’t value reliability. Avoid doing anything with permanent consequences. Bounce constantly from one thing to another. Abandon rhythms and seasons; chase novelty endlessly, instead. Nothing would have consequences, so people would catch on that nothing they do ultimately has any meaning. It would create a flabby Hell of ennui.

I’m with pianistclare. The world may leave a lot to be desired, but my belief in the mercy of God convinces me that there is no superior way to lead people to the joy of being saints. Chasing every other kind of happiness is a fool’s errand.
 
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If i ignore the wisdom i have obtained over the years, I would probably try to create a world with the most pleasure, a world with hardly any responsibility if any at all because my primary goal would be everybody’s immediate enjoyment, not necessarily their moral or spiritual development… And it would probably spoil everyone.The seemingly obvious course of action is not always the most wise.

If the goal is sainthood, then the best course of action may not be to the creation of the most pleasurable world. The best course of action might actually be the creation of the world we live in now.

Peoples idea of the best world is usually infantile.
 
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I’m unable to answer that question… but I’m sure it would be much worse than this one we live in, created by God.
 
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