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No marriage, but not “no bodies.” Body is not just for behaving sexually; body is for being alive.Jesus said that in heaven we will be “like angels”. He also said that there is no marriage in heaven.
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No marriage, but not “no bodies.” Body is not just for behaving sexually; body is for being alive.Jesus said that in heaven we will be “like angels”. He also said that there is no marriage in heaven.
Absolutely! But a new, transformed body; pneumatikon soma. You will be a human being, have head, hands, feet, etc; but your life-process will be reworked for life everlasting.Will we have physical bodies?
I have not studied Mormonism so I won’t say too much, but God the Father is spirit. No teeth, genitalia, etc. The conception of our LORD took place by the action of the Holy Spirit, according to the Gospels.I have some Mormon friends who think God the father has a physical body and that humans look like him (“in his image”) I asked if God has teeth and what does he eat and how and where does he eliminate? Also pointed out that given God has genitalia he must have actually had sex with Mary to impregnate her with Jesus. If only we could get a sample of Jesus’ flesh we might be able to determine the genome of God! The holy prepuce that was worshiped in the 1400s in Italy might have provided a clue, but as far as I know, nobody knows where it is now (like the holy grail).
Any thoughts on this?
When more question: Will we all have as much knowledge?
Probably much, much more, since we will have a new head to hold it. “My knowledge is imperfect now; then I shall know as I am known” (S. Paul, in Romans).Looking forward to your answers!
Have you read Peter Kreeft’s article on whether there will be sex in heaven?Absolutely! But a new, transformed body; pneumatikon soma. You will be a human being, have head, hands, feet, etc; but your life-process will be reworked for life everlasting.
Yes, I have. I much appreciate his insights and way of writing.Have you read Peter Kreeft’s article on the question whether there will be sex in heaven?
Kreeft says no sex … but suggests there will be some sort of union in heaven (not only with God but also with other human beings) …
Sounds like you’re very familiar with the Theology of the Body.Yes, I have. I much appreciate his insights and way of writing.
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Actually, you will have a body; spiritual body, or as S. Paul said, pneumatikon soma.You won’t have bodies like we do now; we will only have Spirits
After the Last Judgement our bodies will resume.
There will be no sexual behavior in Heaven, because it is designed for species propagation, which is unnecessary in immortal life.I hope there is no desire to have sex with these new bodies… Such a desire causes me enough grief down here on earth.
But if we don’t eat in heaven, and don’t reproduce in heaven, I doubt we will have private parts on these bodies. So no sex!
No sex but absolute Joy, like we have when watching children opening presents X 10000000000000000000000000000I hope there is no desire to have sex with these new bodies… Such a desire causes me enough grief down here on earth.
But if we don’t eat in heaven, and don’t reproduce in heaven, I doubt we will have private parts on these bodies. So no sex!
Dude you have no idea how much I just gleefully cheered and clapped out loud. I love seeing children open presents! That would be an absolutely amazing feeling!No sex but absolute Joy, like we have when watching children opening presents X 10000000000000000000000000000![]()
And we won’t be bored after an hour or so!Dude you have no idea how much I just gleefully cheered and clapped out loud. I love seeing children open presents! That would be an absolutely amazing feeling!
Your expession:thumbsup: gives joy.Dude you have no idea how much I just gleefully cheered and clapped out loud. I love seeing children open presents! That would be an absolutely amazing feeling!
I disagree here. In the passage above (1 Corinthians, 15:3549), it sounds like Paul is strictly speaking about the resurrected body, not ones appearance in Heaven.That is precisely why you need a body.
In any case, this is not a matter for philosophizing, as the NT (S. Paul) clearly states, there is a pneumatikon soma (spiritual body).
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“(44) It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body.” (emphasis added)
In verse 40, Paul speaks of “heavenly” and “earthly” bodies, but this seems to be a contrast of angel verses human, because in verse 39, he speaks of di human verses animals, birds and fish.ESV bible, gnpcb.org/
So it seems to me that Paul is speaking of the various orders of creation, and then singling out the order of humanity for further discussion in passages 42-49.(39) For not all flesh is the same, but there is one kind for humans, another for animals, another for birds, and another for fish. (40) There are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is of one kind, and the glory of the earthly is of another.
Based on this, I have to conclude that the pneumatikon soma refers to the resurrected body. Its possible that we will still be able to interact while in Heaven - we will at the very least be in perfect peace and harmony. But our humanity will not be complete again until the resurrection at the end of time!Romans 6:5 “For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his.”
I encourage you to read this article by Prof. Peter Kreeft a catholic apologist and philosophy professor at Boston College:You say that the resurrected body will take up space and have a head, hands, feet, etc.
Would this include reproductive organs?
It would seem so because the resurrected body will be gendered - male and female.
But there is no marriage in heaven.
So why would gender be preserved?