What makes a person beautiful?

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egretps said:
Tell your brother he’s doing a disservice for the rest of us!

BTW he won’t always look that way, effortlessly, tell him that too.
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I’m his older sister, so I don’t know anything, lol.
 
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hey, give him a chance- half of a good beard is learning how to groom it correctly.
 
ConstantLearner said:
I don’t think they are physically attractive at all. No one would put Cindy Crawford on the cover of a magazine looking like that if they wanted a “beautiful woman."

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I was born in LA and I live in West Hollywood (Hollywood Hills). My mother worked in PR with celebrities.
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I think your viewpoint is influenced a bit by your upbringing and your mom’s work. I had a friend who had a long career in fashion marketing, and she had a completely different conception of what was attractive than most other people I know who were not involved in businesses that focused very heavily on appearance. I also have a friend who lived and worked in Los Angeles/ Hollywood as well as a number of other cities, and she definitely noticed a different perception out there and that everyone was striving very hard to live up to certain beauty standards that most of the rest of the country was much less interested in.

People who work in areas such as acting, modeling, TV newscasting, fashion, etc. have a great interest in these conventional beauty standards because they get rewarded heavily for their looks and self-presentation. People who are rewarded based on other factors have a very different set of values and standards. Most of the men I dated actually hated women wearing a lot of makeup and some of them complained about my wearing it even to just go out dancing for an evening.

I’d be very happy to see a magazine full of normal looking women who did not have plastic surgery and faces all full of makeup. I liked the Scavullo books because he showed many of the famous beauties without makeup and with makeup, and the transformations were so interesting. Most of them looked very ordinary with no makeup on, like Cindy and Jennifer Aniston.
 
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I’ve always been a very independent thinker, so I think I’d feel this way no matter where I lived. I did spend summers in Brazil with my grandparents, where almost no one dressed up or wore make-up I still don’t wear heavy make-up at all. I don’t like heavy make-up and don’t need it. Part of that is good genetics, and part is due to the fact that I go for facials, hair conditioning treatments, I don’t smoke or drink alcohol, and stick to a healthy diet, for the most part. My mother was not into those kind of things. She was extremely pretty, and took good care of herself, but she stuck to the basics, even in Hollywood,

I think it’s good for women to see photos of so-called glamorous people without make-up, etc., Too many women feel they have to live up to an an ideal, an illusion. They don’t realize that these women are, for the most part, just woman like they are. Nothing special about their looks. The specialness comes from the hair stylists and the make-up artists and after one gets to know them, personality.
 
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Tis_Bearself said:
I’d be very happy to see a magazine full of normal looking women who did not have plastic surgery and faces all full of makeup
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I’m quite optimistic about this. Brands like Glossier and RMS have been popularizing the natural look/unconventional faces recently.
 
I love “unconventional faces”. At this point, it seems like they are mostly acceptable if the person portrayed is representing an “ethnic” look or a minority. I would like to see more unconventional “white European” faces as well. I find that type of photography is often interesting and beautiful.

Sure, I like to look at beautiful movie actors (who are mostly from old movies as I don’t find most actors today to be attractive at all) but that’s just one kind of beauty. There are so many different kinds and it really does come from an energy within.
 
Six ways of thinking and living we should all try to follow. I can add a seventh: If you have uncharitable thoughts toward someone, pray for him or her. It’s pretty hard to dislike a person we pray for.
 
I attended Dr Edward Sri’s talk a few months ago and he really hit the nail on the head.

Physical attractiveness is important but it differs for each and everyone of us. Physical attractiveness is crucial for a couple to get their sexy on. You should be physically attracted by your spouse.

However, it must never stand alone. Physical attractiveness is not going to carry a marriage and we change, our bodies change. But overall it’s alright to find your spouse’s butt cute, their smile sexy, their laugh contagious, or hair amazing.

It’s equally important to like them as a person, and not just how they make us feel. You love them for who they are and the gifts they have to share with the world.

Being attracted to someone needs to be a holistic exercise.

 
Beauty is archetypical. Regarding persons, it is the recognition of humanness in a particular person. Not merely physical, but humanness on every personal level. From a theological perspective then, one might conclude that human beings created in the Image of God (Imago Dei) reflect the ultimate source of all beauty. Indeed, they are living icons of the divine being, yet remaining mere creatures.
 
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BoomBoomMancini said:
I can’t prove this, but I highly doubt Melania ever “fell” for Trump. I think she made a pretty straightforward transaction (“I’ll be your hot arm-candy, you let me live in the lap of luxury.”) I can’t imagine she genuinely found him physically attractive. He’s an overweight orange hued seventy year old with a ridiculous toupee and she’s a former nude model. I mean, c’mon.
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You’re right. It was more of a business deal with Donald and Melania. She was struggling to pay her bills and was even thinking of moving back to Slovenia. In fact, she was making plans. Donald was looking for his next young “trophy wife.” A mutual friend set them up at a party, and Melania got financial security and eventually, US citizenship, and Donald got his trophy wife. I’m sure they have a pre-nup, but my friend has no idea what’s in it. She says Melania probably wouldn’t get much, or she wouldn’t be hanging around now since she didn’t want to be First Lady in the worst way. She’s very private and shy.
 
ConstantLearner said:
If you have uncharitable thoughts toward someone, pray for him or her. It’s pretty hard to dislike a person we pray for.
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Oh, i have no problem disliking some people I pray for 🙂 (which is mea culpa, I know)

but I recently heard that God puts difficult people in our paths because they need prayers, so I now just take it as God sending me that person to pray for. Doesn’t mean I like him or her any more, but I still pray.
 
Tis_Bearself said:
but I recently heard that God puts difficult people in our paths because they need prayers, so I now just take it as God sending me that person to pray for. Doesn’t mean I like him or her any more, but I still pray.
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I don’t think it’s supposed to make you like them, just dislike them a little less. I don’t think your feelings matter as long as you pray. I have to admit, I don’t pray for people I don’t like. I figure they have people who do care about them to pray for them. But, maybe they don’t. I tend to think I get them covered when I ask God to help all the ill and needy and all those in need of help of any kind. I should probably be more specific, but it’s a failing of mine.
 
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I make myself pray for my “enemies” and repeat the person’s name over and over in the prayer - I usually do the Divine Mercy so their name can be added to every prayer.
It is a penance for me as obviously it is not fun to have to say the name of someone you dislike 50 or 60 times, but it’s good for me and probably makes the dislike a little less by the time I have finished the chaplet.
 
You’re a better person than I. Though I know I should do it, I can’t bring myself to really pray for the few I truly dislike. I’m working on it, though. Yes, I can see it would be quite a penance to have to repeat their name so many times!
 
I’m sorry-- how do know this? It just seems rude to speculate like this. It may seem obvious, but we really don’t know. Can we just show a little respect?
 
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Loud-living-dogma said:
I’m sorry-- how do know this? It just seems rude to speculate like this. It may seem obvious, but we really don’t know. Can we just show a little respect?
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I get what you’re saying, but as to the rudeness, bear in mind that Donald Trump is someone who has deliberately made his (many) relationships with women front and center for years now. He loves the attention and he loves being in the tabloids. Presumably Melania knew that and knew what she was getting into.

All that to say this isn’t just the random couple down the block. This a very public figure who has sought the limelight at any turn. In some sense they’ve consented to and welcomed the speculation.
 
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