Better than believing what is generated between the ears of other people, like that madman Mohammad.
Better than ‘believing in God’ just because YOU dont want to burn in hell.
and the answer?that’s a perfectly sensible question you’ve posed there, chief.
Minumura mo ba ako? Gago ka rin!
You’d give up ALL ideas not generated, or discovered, or revelealed to, by you because some ideas from others are “useless or worse”…?
Hmmm,… how is that NOT about you, and your egocentrism?
Your question was: “whats the big deal all that ‘communion’ stuff anyway?”that’s a perfectly sensible question you’ve posed there, chief.
and the answer?
The translation of the olelo hawai’i is: Thanks be to God. May blessings always be with you. Great love to you.
i ia oe. Aloha nui.thats part of the reason. the other reasons for not believing the ‘so called prophets’ (like moses, buddha, jesus, joseph smith, l.ron hubbard) is a combination of these three:
it dont believe in hell.
I dont really have a bad impression of Christianity. In fact I like it. I would rather have all Muslims become Christians. Its just not for me. its too much like the matrix- nice but not real.
so what does that phrase mean for you?
Oh ok. Mine says “Are you cursing me? Curse you too!”
Sharia comes from the Koran and HadithDon’t Muslims believe that sharia law is from God??
Vickie
I am not really clear about sharia law, i think it simply means following islam. When i said many don’t want sharia law in australia, i meant that having it as ‘the law’ in australia.I didn’t mean to suggest that they don’t believe in it because i think they have to ‘believe’ in it. Muslims such as HT want it to be established in muslim countries and don’t regard SA (or any other middle eastern countries) as a true islamic state. It is regarded as much more than draconian punishments for evil doers which is the way it is always presented in the western media. Most muslims i know don’t support HT and their objectives at all, they are regarded as extreme and a group that always attracts controversy and tarnishes the image of the rest of the muslim population. This makes many muslims very angry and as does all the other islamist terrorists who they condemn vehemently but rarely are their voices heard. In australia, the people arrested and charged with terrorism offences have been outed by the muslim community who are just as appalled as anyone else that they would want to harm others and our way of life. The sort of rhethoric on this thread is just the thing that drives our communities apart and leads to mistrust and fear. Our best protection from terrorism is a united community that works together. Islam has been hijacked by the islamists and the west is buying into their agenda of fear which is exactly want they want. It alienates the entire muslim population which is bound to produce the vulnerable and angry people that then find islamism attractive. We are all responsible for our part in this situation.
So,
recall that Sydney mufti who described women as meat
I have been taught that quotes from the bible can be misinterpreted and much reflects the culture of the times. We rely on theologians and priests to interpret such passages. Those quotes are out of context, i don’t need to understand them to know the essence of catholicism. The same can be said of islam. Many people were quoting from anti-islamic sites to say that it is a violent religion. I put that there because someone claimed that there is no passages in the bible that are open to misinterpretation. Muslims rely on sheiks to interpret the quoran just as catholics rely on theology.
Oh no, not that old discredited chestnut again.
If you think you can you universal statements about any group, including Muslims, then you have yourself fooled. You may find great agreement among most Muslims that they would like to see a world in which they could live under Sharia law. But it is false to say that all Muslims want to live under Sharia.Originally Posted by fatma View Post
not all muslims want sharia law, they support democracy and the australian way of life. they also find much of the middle eastern practises reprehensible.
If you really believe this they have you fooled!
Myself, ive been to a muslim wedding, dressed modestly as my friend requested, yet the sheik refused to walk past us cause we were considered ‘uncovered’. And yes, i had long pants on and a shirt that covered everything, except it displayed my forearm.
I then asked the question, how on earth does this man walk down the streets of sydney, especially in summer!!!
ALL and i repeat ALL muslims want sharia law, its what they believe.
fatma, im not being mean when i say this, but i think you should be doing more research for yourself, not asking muslims who lie, but your own research and you will then see the truth of what islam is.
As i said before, my own friend now lies to me to protect the religion she believes in, before, she would never lie to me.
Islam turns people into liars and makes them devious.
I might be harsh in some of my statements, but quite frankly, im sick and tired of watching Islam spread lies about Jesus, he is the son of God, not a mere prophet.
I dont regret anything I say.
God Bless
Dolphy
Of course the majority of respondants were more in line with another American Muslim:
There were other, and for me unexpected, viewpoints as well, such as this from a Malaysian Muslim:
In general, what I experience is that for every Muslim who has position “A” there seems to be another who holds to “not-A”. The more extreme position “A” is, the more likely to find an extreme form of “not-A” and many different positions in between.
Who did this survey?
It was just an simple poll on a Muslim internet forum. It has no scientific value.
Here is some more of the disagreement that exists between Muslims.
Postion “not-A”:
And yet another said,
Check it out for yourself: islamicboard.com/ You will find all sorts of Muslims there. Some who tend to scare about how bad the US is and all things western (while of course living in the west, like England or the Netherlands, themselves) and others from the USA to Pakistan with much more moderate, even liberal views. Some are young students, some professionals. Some are new converts and others have been Muslim their whole life. Some will engage you in polite conversation and others will hardly listen they are talking so loud themselves. A lot like here. Although, slightly more polite.
I am a CATHOLIC. I put that there as a joke in reference to the american minister who claims to be both. I will now remove it because I am sick of everyone asking me about it. Someone on here is going to have to EAT THEIR HATbecause they claimed that I was really a muslim. So please whoever it was eat your hat and post pictures on lineFatima,
I notice that you captalize neither Catholic or Muslim in your Religion profile. Does that mean you are really neither? If you are trying to be both how can that be? Since catholic, with a small ‘c’ means universal, did you mean to say that you are a universal Muslim? I know you can be Arab and Catholic since my son in law is one but I don’t see how you could be Catholic and Muslim since you would have to reject some of the teachings of one or both religions. If you have already explained this please point me to your explanation.
As you probably know Grace Seeker, I am sympathetic to the muslim community in this time of suspicion and distrust, and you are right, i am not a follower of both faiths and I didn’t think that that would attract such attention. It is frustrating the bejesus out of me as the irish say, to keep being asked about it.
I was brought up by a family of turbo catholics, here, there, everywhere was a nun or a priest in the family, catholicism was central to the family identity. The message I got loud and clear was that a good catholic was someone that didn’t judge other people, was charitable and tried to see the good in everyone. I saw this in my uncle who was a priest, not in other members of the family. What I see on here is a total lack of respect for a whole group of people based on their religion which I didn’t expect from people who professed to be catholic.
Simply amazing. “In this time of distrust”
The discrimination went both ways;
you’re not a catholic then, you’ll have to become one when you marry dolphinlove then
and i’m not going to defend sheik taj - i think he was a liability to the muslim community in some ways. I didn’t say anything about christians in islamic countries, why do you think that justifies the way we treat people?:harp: