What Role Do Catholics Play in Combatting Rape Culture?

Status
Not open for further replies.
I read that article before and I was gobsmacked that there could be such a law in some states in US.
Its abhorrent that her rapist would even think of doing such a thing and maybe even more abhorrent that his lawyers agreed to represent him (I mean because one may expect this line of reasoning from a criminal but not from someone who’s meant to have a conscience).
I’ve never heard of this happening in Australia and can’t say with 100 % confidence the law in this matter,(Alex337 might know as I think he/she live in Australia too) but I can say with confidence there would be much outrage.
 
Now you are bringing back memories🙂
Many 80’s movies unfortunately had those sort of themes-not necessarily rape but sleazy behaviour involving perving in showers and dressing rooms etc.
Eg:porkies,revenge of the nerds,private school etc…
 
Last edited:
There is a Cultural Orientation programme in Australia but it is more about “settling in” and how things work in Australia.
Culture shock or “cultural challenges” are briefly covered and it mentions that Forced marriages are not accepted in Australia.
It is sort of looking from the perspective of people that are good people that just need help adjusting,but there is nothing that really prevents “bad people” with those “sexual assault mentalities” from entering.
It lays out Australian culture (eg:that many women work) and laws but doesn’t really do anything to address people that may not be willing to accept or tolerate “Australian lifestyle”.

Last year,the Prime Minister announced that he was making a change to the Citizenship laws and make “tougher citizenship test which will assess their commitment to Australia and their attitudes to religious freedom and gender equality”.

This to me seems good,but there are other things that I don’t agree with such as they were introducing “more stringent English language test will also be introduced, which will include “reading, writing and listening” components…”
This to me can smack of elitism and the concern that only the applicants that were able to afford a higher level of English and highly educated,or from English speaking countries may be chosen.
Granted,now many younger people in Europe can speak decent English,but when my parents emigrated they knew zero English, and they have contributed super to this country.
It also neglects cultural factors.Eg:my mum still likely today would not be able to pass the English language test because she comes from the older European culture where women were often housewives (by choice).

I agree with you about the uncanny similarities between Taliban rapists and Steubenville rapists.What they also have in common is that they usually have friends/social circle with the same “women are sex things to be used” mentalities to reinforce their mindsets.
This might sound controversial,but maybe they also sometimes have mothers or fathers that subtly reinforce it?
I agree that Islam itself is not the issue.Often people want to derail it and blame the religion itself,but as far as I’m aware,Islam in itself teaches that rape is bad and a crime.
Although,there can be cultural issues and sometimes the “gang rapists” can be from predominantly Islamic countries so they may hold a misinterpretation of what Islam teaches (or been led astray by a controversial Imam) and form their mentalities based off that.

https://www.dss.gov.au/settlement-s...rientation-ausco-program/ausco-student-folder

www.abc.net.au

Citizenship test overhaul to prioritise 'Australian values'

Migrants will face a tougher citizenship test which will assess their commitment to Australia and their attitudes to religious freedom and gender equality.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
 
Last edited:
TheLittleLady said:
My parents never told me “do not murder”. It was simply part of the literal Christian fabric of our lives
Click to expand...
I was certainly taught ‘do not murder’. But never ‘do not rape’ in my 12 years of Catholic education.
 
If you didn’t know that rape was evil [and yes, even if NOBODY told you that], then there’s something wrong with your mindset.
 
Rozellelily said:
In which way do you believe encouraging chastisty would stop any rape cultures that exist?
Click to expand...
Any any rape culture, if we want to call it that, it is stemmed from a mentality that sexual pleasure can be exercised at will. Whether we’re talking about rape, fornication, sodomy, masturbation, porn, contraception, it all stems from that mentality.

The opposite of that is purity/chastity. If we want to battle a culture, we need to make sure we’re changed first. A great place to start is to become chaste.
 
The 10 Commandments, all of Scripture, was simply part of the fabric of our lives.

“Don’t void your bowels in the middle of the Thanksgiving table” was not told to me.

“Do not put a puppy in the garbage disposal”, never told to me.

“Don’t murder, rape, steal” did not need to be said, it was simply a given. Something unthinkable.

The root of this problem is that we no longer have values and morals woven into the fabric of our families. Morals are something squishy, what is right for me is wrong for you and we are both okay has given us the culture we see.
 
Lara said:
Has anyone here ever worked for a rape crisis phone line? po18guy might be able to answer this too. Please state if you think it’s only a misuse of power or if you think it’s also a sin of lust? Also tell us if it’s often a crime of opportunity.
Click to expand...
It’s been proven time and time again that rape has nothing to do with sex.

It is a crime of power. Not sex.
 
TheLittleLady said:
The root of this problem is that we no longer have values and morals woven into the fabric of our families. Morals are something squishy, what is right for me is wrong for you and we are both okay has given us the culture we see.
Click to expand...
The research that has been done suggests that typically rapists don’t think of themselves as rapists. So part of the problem is they’d agree that “rape is bad.” But then, you’ll hear a lot of things like “women say no when they really mean yes,” and the guy’s saying he “convinced” her to agree.

Frankly, a lot of the research on fear and traumatic reactions, and hearing women’s perspectives on fear, is useful. People do quite naturally freeze up like a deer in the headlights when in a scary situation - sometimes even in cases where they might have been able to fight back or get away, because part of our brain takes over and it’s an instinctive response. Women are also more aware than men that a situation where you’re alone with a man could turn bad. (I think that’s actually much of the root of the affirmative consent idea - someone can be communicating “I’m a threat” without explicitly saying “I’m going to hurt you if you say no.” For example, I was reading a woman say that they were alone after a party, and the guy just kind of shoved her against the wall and started making out with her. She didn’t tell him to stop because they were alone and he was acting like he didn’t care and she didn’t want to provoke him."
 
I think that consent is something that kids need to be told about. And not just in terms of sex, it’s as simple as a kid being told they need to “ask Bobbi before you pick up her toy truck”. I was told that as a small child. It may be simple but small children need to be taught simple things.
 
It’s more than manners. And leads into talk on consent in more adult matters.
 
How do you explain the rape problem in countries where women wear burqas, fornication earns the death penalty, and pornography is banned?

I think that their culture and, for example, college fraternity “hook-up” culture both encourage objectifying women. They just manifest the mentality in different ways.
 
blackforest said:
How do you explain the rape problem in countries where women wear burqas, fornication earns the death penalty, and pornography is banned?
Click to expand...
It looks like my response was removed. What I said initially was that it’s a very niche Rape Culture problem since it is stemmed from Islam where it is very tyrannical toward women. In fact, it’s so much worse beyond it’s literal rape crisis – it involves further mutilation of women, bacha bazi, and punishing rape victims.

This is why places like Sweden, Germany, and London’s stats in this crime have gone up in recent years.

Oddly enough, Western feminists have gone silent on this issue.
 
Last edited:
Alex337 said:
Actually the false case of Sweden has already been fact checked in this thread. As have the others.
Click to expand...
Can you send those stats? I’m seeing something entirely different. Some of the numbers depending on the source you’re looking at alters the details. For instance, London doesn’t report certain cases if it involves Muslims so as to not appear Islamophobic. This is why Tommy Robinson went to prison.

Also, this isn’t the main point of what I said. I was saying that rape in the Islamic world is a huge problem.
 
Last edited:
gcshapero said:
Oddly enough, Western feminists have gone silent on this issue.
Click to expand...
You don’t have to search too far on the Internet to find feminists routinely denouncing FGM, punishing rape victims, child marriage, and other horrible practices affecting women and girls. I won’t stand for Islamophobia, and I won’t stand for these misogynistic practices, either.

FGM, just so you know, pre-dates Islam and is not an official tenet of the religion.
 
blackforest said:
FGM, just so you know, pre-dates Islam and is not an official tenet of the religion.
Click to expand...
I know it’s not, just as rape existed prior. However, they are both big problems promoted within Islamic culture. Roberts Spencer went into this extensively.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top