What should be done to stop abortion?

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I drive by a Planned Parenthood and often see people praying the rosary outside. Does that actually work? Do women not get abortions because of that?
What do you think would stop women from getting an abortion? I don’t mean some general idea of what is wrong with society, but what real, concrete tangible actions actually stop women from aborting their babies? Has any organization ever polled women who were initally planning on having an abortion but didn’t?

I’ve been thinking lately that I really would like to get involved with pro-life work, but I wonder if the methods they are using are even making a difference and I would like for what I do to have an impact.
 
I think that for starters the pope should publically excommunicate every catholic politician, public official, or any high profile business executives, etc., throughout the world, who in any way help to keep abortion legal or further the cause. Next, I think he should tell all voting catholics from all free countries that they are cooperating in mortal sin by voting for, or otherwise support, people or programs that further the cause of abortion. Furthermore, that anyone cooperating in this sin should refrain from receiving the Eurcharist so as not to add to the scandal and further blaspheme the Lord.

May not change everything, may not change anything, but it would make me feel a little better.
 
rwillenborg said:
I drive by a Planned Parenthood and often see people praying the rosary outside. Does that actually work? Do women not get abortions because of that?
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Yes, it does work. And, yes, there are women who turn away from PP and other abortion clinics because of the prayer presence outside.
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What do you think would stop women from getting an abortion? I don’t mean some general idea of what is wrong with society, but what real, concrete tangible actions actually stop women from aborting their babies?
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Those who are involved in ministering to women in crisis pregnancy centers are very experienced in this. That would be a good place to start learning how to sidewalk counsel and talk to women in crisis pregnancies.
 
Volunteer at your local CPC. pray incessantly and NEVER vote for a politician at any level of govt who supports abortion.
 
You can read about chastity and why it must be kept to enter Heaven, (also in marriage, it is only allowed for procreation, if you want no children, then you must live in chastity),

These words of God are accepted by the Church as infallible truth, this was ruled 700 years ago. Back then the Church had the same position as said in these words of God, if the Church today - in the end of times, when faith would be totally lost and people lovers of themselves and lovers of pleasures, rather then lovers of God and lovers of virtue, as prophesied by Christ, - teach different then what is said here by God, then guess who is wrong and are fulfillment of end time prophecy, and who should be followed and trusted, as all Saints of God teach the same.

www.saintbirgitta.com - book 1, chapter 26
www.saintbirgitta.com - book 1, chapter 9
www.saintbirgitta.com - book 1, chapter 13
www.saintbirgitta.com - book 1, chapter 16
 
rwillenborg said:
I drive by a Planned Parenthood and often see people praying the rosary outside. Does that actually work? Do women not get abortions because of that?
What do you think would stop women from getting an abortion? I don’t mean some general idea of what is wrong with society, but what real, concrete tangible actions actually stop women from aborting their babies? Has any organization ever polled women who were initally planning on having an abortion but didn’t?

I’ve been thinking lately that I really would like to get involved with pro-life work, but I wonder if the methods they are using are even making a difference and I would like for what I do to have an impact.
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It sounds like you need to get to know yourself.

Everyone has a different talent, a different reason for being involved, a different perspective. No method or action is going to be effective if the person is poorly positioned. Heck, this is like putting a great salesperson in the stock room where he stands around talking all day, or putting an introverted person on the phones.

So start thinking about what you are naturally good at and why you want to be part of the abortion issue.

General rule of thumb…if you are a kind looking woman who is young or pregnant or has a child, then face to face counseling in front of the clinic might be easier for you than if you are an older man.

If you tend to be very emotional or if you like math more than english, publishing might not be your thing. 😛

If you are very organized and have leadership qualities, you might be effective in helping those who counsel rather than directly helping the women. Sometimes all those happy, lovey, emotional people need a little strict guidance and strategy, KWIM?

If you are a good salesperson with a strong personality, you might be able to help by encouraging organizations and people to donate their time and money.
 
Predikant said:
You can read about chastity and why it must be kept to enter Heaven, (also in marriage, it is only allowed for procreation, if you want no children, then you must live in chastity),

These words of God are accepted by the Church as infallible truth, this was ruled 700 years ago. Back then the Church had the same position as said in these words of God, if the Church today - in the end of times, when faith would be totally lost and people lovers of themselves and lovers of pleasures, rather then lovers of God and lovers of virtue, as prophesied by Christ, - teach different then what is said here by God, then guess who is wrong and are fulfillment of end time prophecy, and who should be followed and trusted, as all Saints of God teach the same.

www.saintbirgitta.com - book 1, chapter 26
www.saintbirgitta.com - book 1, chapter 9
www.saintbirgitta.com - book 1, chapter 13
www.saintbirgitta.com - book 1, chapter 16
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When are you going to post proof that the church has declared St Brigitta’s wriring to be infallible?

Posters should note that he posted the exact same statement at least a half dozen times in different threads.
 
To the OP (original poster), have you checked these sites out at all?
all.org
Judie Brown’s web site

priestsforlife.org
Fr. Frank Pavone’s web site and

hli.org
Fr. Tom Euteneuer’s web site

They all have some pretty good idea’s.
 
well, lemme give an example of what the rosary can do,
if you know about autism, you know it is incurable, well, after my little cousin was diagnosed with it, we were all devastated, and we prayed the rosary for her several times throughout the day for about 2 months, and slowly but surly, she seemed to be getting better, and right now, 4 years later, there is absolutely nothing wrong with her, she is a normal and healthy girl,
so yes, it does work, i’ve had many more prayers answered threw praying the rosary though, just that one was most miraculous.

if you want help fighting abortion and talking girls out of an abortion, this might help you -
catholicapologetics.info/morality/abortion/answers.htm
 
rwillenborg said:
I drive by a Planned Parenthood and often see people praying the rosary outside. Does that actually work? Do women not get abortions because of that?
What do you think would stop women from getting an abortion? I don’t mean some general idea of what is wrong with society, but what real, concrete tangible actions actually stop women from aborting their babies? Has any organization ever polled women who were initally planning on having an abortion but didn’t?

I’ve been thinking lately that I really would like to get involved with pro-life work, but I wonder if the methods they are using are even making a difference and I would like for what I do to have an impact.
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**We can still protest and pray near clinics. Because abortion is allowed by law, the most efficient way to fight this travesty is in the realm of ideas - convincing people that abortion is wrong. Pro-life organizations have polled women who have had abortions. Many of them have experienced deep remorse, guilt, and depression over their decision many years afterwards. **
 
Our local Pregnancy Resource Center obtained an ultrasound machine a few years ago. Seeing their own babies “on film” has turned several women away from abortion.

So you might think of raising funds to provide your local CPC (crisis pregnancy center) with an ultrasound…

Ruthie
 
Ruthie said:
Our local Pregnancy Resource Center obtained an ultrasound machine a few years ago. Seeing their own babies “on film” has turned several women away from abortion.

So you might think of raising funds to provide your local CPC (crisis pregnancy center) with an ultrasound…

Ruthie
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There is a statistic that says 40% of women planning on an abortion that have access to a free ultrasound will change their minds… There is a program that buys ultrasound equipment and sets up a van near abortion clinics or even a pro-life clinic right near abortion clinics… I forget the name… I think it is Rachels project… You might want to look into how to change the laws in your state to require ultrasounds before abortions can be performed…
 
I have a friend who tells me this about the group she knows of that goes to the abortion clinic to pray the rosary and just be available to the girls going to or fro if they want to talk: they get feedback from about 1 girl a month who says “Thanks - you changed my mind”.

One baby a month (average) saved from one clinic - and that’s only going by the girls that *tell them *… How many people had a change of heart and kept it to themselves?

So going from that I would say that yes it helps. Just don’t go yelling at the girls or trying to talk to each one of them. Be available and pray pray pray… let them see you praying for them and their unborn baby.
 
My friend tells me that while she was praying the Rosary with others outside an abortion clinic, a woman went in, and then came back out, telling them she’d decided to not get the abortion because they were praying.

So, to anyone who says prayer doesn’t do anything… It saves lives. Literally.
 
peary said:
**We can still protest and pray near clinics. Because abortion is allowed by law, the most efficient way to fight this travesty is in the realm of ideas - convincing people that abortion is wrong. Pro-life organizations have polled women who have had abortions. Many of them have experienced deep remorse, guilt, and depression over their decision many years afterwards. **
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Personally I think its gonna take a Divine miracle to stop abortion. Prayer is good. but one thing I read is to hit them where it hurts too, money. If people brought up the cases where plannedparenthood defended minors they would be put out of buisness.

I think its gonna get worse however, considering , sadly, that a good number of Catholics are voting for Obama, and thus think abortion is ok. And because of this we are electing the most notorious abortion supporter of all the candidates(even more so than hilliary). Obama was very clear that he wants to remove the partial birth abortion ban.

I pray the Pope will speak out about this. The best that I have seen is what South Dakota did, I couldn’t believe they were able to pull that through.
 
Two more pro-life justices on the Supreme Court.

And the Democrats won’t put them there.

The only way is to elect an overwhelmingly Conservative / Republican Senate. It has to be absolutely overwhelming in numbers … a super super majority to overcome the pro-abortion votes of the Rino’s.

That means that all Catholic voters have to vote Republican. Instead of half of the Catholic voters voting for “pro-choice” Democrats.
 
Al_Masetti said:
That means that all Catholic voters have to vote Republican. Instead of half of the Catholic voters voting for “pro-choice” Democrats.
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That is the solution, I think. I don’t understand how some Catholics can put achieving a nanny state before stopping abortion. I’m not in favor of a nanny state, but I can respect the opinion of those who are (for the most part). To put that before abortion shows that someone needs to sort out their priorities, imho.
 
estesbob said:
Volunteer at your local CPC. pray incessantly and NEVER vote for a politician at any level of govt who supports abortion.
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John Paul II, in Evangelium Vitae, n.73, said that if it is not possible to outlaw abortion altogether, a politician can vote for a law limiting abortion. It is a case of limiting the evil done, rather than positively voting for abortion. I found that quite helpful. It means that politicians who vote for a lower gestation limit for abortion do not necessarily support it. Here is the quote:
…when it is not possible to overturn or completely abrogate a pro-abortion law, an elected official, whose absolute personal opposition to procured abortion was well known, could licitly support proposals aimed at limiting the harm done by such a law and at lessening its negative consequences at the level of general opinion and public morality. This does not in fact represent an illicit cooperation with an unjust law, but rather a legitimate and proper attempt to limit its evil aspects.
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God bless,

Nick
 
Nick9 said:
John Paul II, in Evangelium Vitae, n.73, said that if it is not possible to outlaw abortion altogether, a politician can vote for a law limiting abortion. It is a case of limiting the evil done, rather than positively voting for abortion. I found that quite helpful. It means that politicians who vote for a lower gestation limit for abortion do not necessarily support it. Here is the quote:

God bless,

Nick
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It only applies when the politicians opponent is more pro-abortion than he is. No issue or a combination of issues Trump abortion. You cannot vote for a politician because you like is stand on the war, the death penalty, welfare, etc. when he supports abortion on demand unless, again, his opponent is more pro-abortion than he .

3*. Not all moral issues have the same moral weight as abortion and euthanasia. For example, if a Catholic were to be at odds with the Holy Father on the application of capital punishment or on the decision to wage war, he would not for that reason be considered unworthy to present himself to receive Holy Communion. While the Church exhorts civil authorities to seek peace, not war, and to exercise discretion and mercy in imposing punishment on criminals, it may still be permissible to take up arms to repel an aggressor or to have recourse to capital punishment. There may be a legitimate diversity of opinion even among Catholics about waging war and applying the death penalty, but not however with regard to abortion and euthanasia*

Cardinal Ratzinger
 
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