Not in the least bit. My husband is a great man and a wonderful person. We are extremely close and in sync with each other. Everything we’ve ever decided on has been through mutual trust and respect, and we are in the same place.
Debora, I don’t mean for the following to sound accusatory, but your reply to a post seems to indicate that you vacillate between consciously and knowingly using contraceptives and going your own way on this matter, and then turning around and trying to honor the Church’s teaching on sexuality.
I apologize if you take this as a personal affront to you. I assure you that it is not.
Such would of course apply to any intrinsic evil.
Hello dailey,
Here is the discription that came with the photo when I found it. I heard about this picture from my parish priest who keeps a copy of it to give him strength.
Martyrdom of Fr. Francisco Vera
The picture below shows the martyrdom in early April of 1927 of Fr. Francisco Vera, a parish Priest of Sangre y Cuerpo de Cristo in the city of Jalostotitlan, Jalisco.
Padre was celebrating Mass in secret for his people when he was discovered by Freemasons and, with the support of a socialist and vehemently anti-Catholic government and media, executed on the spot. He was not allowed to remove his vestments, and this photograph was sent to President Calles by the leader of the squad to prove how zealous he was being against the Catholic Church. Father Vera’s body was taken to a garbage dump outside the city, where it was further desecrated.
This scene was just one of numerous anti-religious atrocities committed by the Mexican government during the Cristero War, a period of Catholic resistance to state persecution comparable in sentiment if not in scale to the persecution of Jews in Nazi Germany.
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Thank you for the story. So sad.
Speaking as a budding priest, would you say its okay for me and my boyfriend to have mutual stimulation of sexual organs? I guess you would… since you already think its okay to seperate the lifegiving potential from the sexual act.
If a well informed Catholic truly believes that they would be committing a sin by following a doctrinal decision, then they must follow their own conscience in the matter, because no one can violate their conscience if they think they are committing a sin. But to state this is to state an extreme hypothetical, and I think only applies in a case in which a Catholic could demonstrate from Catholic teaching that a particular decision was mistaken. The Catholic teaching on contraception has been consistent for 2,000 years and is one of morals in which sphere the Magisterium is held to be infallible. There are many things which we may not fully understand, but a willingness to adhere to Catholic doctrine is part of what being a faithful Catholic means. No one says it is always easy; but God will always grant the graces if they are asked for.
Seriously though, I get that whatever conclusion you have come to you don’t want to share here, and of course that is OK.Maybe I should have worded a my words better: I did NOT mean simulating the sexual organs nor did I include people utside of marriage. Spooning is when a couple cuddles up and are affectionate with each other in an intimate way. Because a couple touch each other closely doesn’t mean they’re having sex, it is merely a privelege which they have towards each other.
How was it puerile? I just gave my opinion and wanted to help. I am a budding Priest for your information and have had this vocation for three years. Just because I didn’t word myself correctly doesn’t mean I’m some modernist. I wrote a post showing what I really meant
For clarification:
then you write the post quoted at the top. You seem a little confused about climaxing, spooning, cuddling and sex in these posts. saying that couples should spoon, cuddle, keep each other warm, or have dinner is not the same conversation as whether climaxing outside of intercourse is permissible.
It’s ok. I think he just isn’t familiar with our use of the term “climax” in this context. No harm, no foul.
then hopefully this little side note will goad him to seek out a dictionary or encyclopedia!
then hopefully this little side note will goad him to seek out a dictionary or encyclopedia!
PS: I’m glad that you’ve found peace (at least that’s how I read your post above).
