what should I do?

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To the OP - you ask “what should I do?” you should pay for what you broke and not try to sluff it off on another entity regardless of ability to pay. Knowing that YOU broke the camera and did not state it to the 2nd clerk makes you a common thief.
 
No. Because you are assuming that the store is strictly forbidden from granting it under warranty even if he did drop it. It ain’t the poster’s job to figure that out. It’s the staff’s. Report us to the mods if you think we are really leading someone astray.
I made absolutely no assumptions about the store’s discretion or responsibility, only about the original poster doing what he thought was the right thing. The fact that he brought it up here indicates something. All rationalizations to the contrary aside, the second paragraph of my post will always hold true.
 
I would have no worries standing on judgement day over something similar. Well, I would have plenty of worries of course, but over stuff that actually registers on the radar screen. Not over some store clerk who obviously wanted to cut me a break.
 
Warranties exclude coverage for accidental damage as a rule, and it is most likely that your camera’s warranty does, too. Look it up to be sure. Assuming that it does have that exclusion, you are guilty of two sins: deception, in that when you went back the second time you deliberately withheld information about how the camera was damaged so as to lead the staff to believe it had a covered defect; and theft, in that you wrongfully obtained possession of something that you had no right to. And you know that not being able to afford something is no excuse for just taking it! As for the staff having discretion to cover the repair, perhaps so, but it would be wrong to mislead them in order to induce them to exercise that discretion in your favor. I’m sorry to be so stern, but you deserve the unvarnished truth, at least as far as I can see it. I think you should go back to the camera store and 'fess up and make arrangements to pay them what you owe.
That is ridiculous. However, to the original poster, were you that surprised when you got a response like this? People have some really strict and harsh views here.
 
Ok, guys I propose we find a way to settle this.

First I’ll ask the op: Did you go back to the store with the willful intention that you were going to deceive the guy into thinking it was covered under warranty? If so, I will grant that you are out. You were wrong, you stink and all that, no matter what happened. 🙂

I have been operating under the assumption that you did not intend this, but rather intended to get a second opinion and, like most of us, did not want to prejudice it by divulging the result of the first opinion. I think this is perfectly acceptable and prudent to boot.

But I’m willing to entertain the possibility that I am wrong. So, I say go to your priest, lay it out without any spin, and specifically ask if your did anything wrong, and report back to this thread. I will humbly submit to whatever he says.

Scott
 
That is ridiculous. However, to the original poster, were you that surprised when you got a response like this? People have some really strict and harsh views here.
Golly-gee, I think “ridiculous” is a little much, but if you can show me why what I said was ridiculous, I’ll certainly retract it. I think that the original questioner himself had some inkling that there might be something morally problematic here, and I presumed that he wanted an honest answer, not some feel-good response. But please, as I said, if you can show me why what I said was wrong, please do. I’m not interested in burdening the original poster with non-existent “guilt.” In any case, wjp984, I’m interested in hearing your take on this. What advice have you for vince2paul?
 
Ok, guys I propose we find a way to settle this.

First I’ll ask the op: Did you go back to the store with the willful intention that you were going to deceive the guy into thinking it was covered under warranty? If so, I will grant that you are out. You were wrong, you stink and all that, no matter what happened. 🙂

I have been operating under the assumption that you did not intend this, but rather intended to get a second opinion and, like most of us, did not want to prejudice it by divulging the result of the first opinion. I think this is perfectly acceptable and prudent to boot.
No, because I specifically ask “Something is wrong with the lens, how much will it cost to replace it?” and I was ready to pay for it.
 
That is ridiculous. However, to the original poster, were you that surprised when you got a response like this? People have some really strict and harsh views here.
Well, not really surprised. Everyone has the right to voice out their opinion, especially it is an online forum where people don’t know each other and most of the time we don’t know the situation and the people we are ‘talking’ to. there’ll be alot of assumption of what’s going on. 🙂
 
Few months ago, I accidentally dropped my digital camera on the floor and when I brought it to the service centre, the staff said the warranty didn’t cover this (as it’s my fault) and that the lens had to be replaced, it cost ard $165, would take ard 3-4 weeks as they had to order it from Japan. Since I didn’t have money at that time, so I brought it back home and just kept it.

Last Monday, I brought it back, I just told the staff (different person) that something wrong with the lens and he asked my warranty card, didn’t even ask what happened to the camera. He issued me the receipt and told me that it would take 7-10 days. However, it only took 3 days and I didn’t need to pay for anything. Everything happened so fast that I didn’t even know what to do, except thanking God.

Part of me saying that it’s the answer to my prayer (yes, I did pray that miracle would happen and I get my digicam service on time, especially since my mum will get confirmation next month), while I also felt a little guilty. But I really can’t afford such a huge amount of money for the repair as I’m still a student.

What should I do?
I think the shop did the right thing the second time.
 
Well, Vince, it is entirely possible that the first sales person was wrong! That being the case, the second sales person would be correct in getting your camera fixed under warranty.
I really don’t know, the fact that it took only 3 days instead of 3-4 weeks confused me. Even the 2nd staff said that it would take 7-10 days.
 
No, because I specifically ask “Something is wrong with the lens, how much will it cost to replace it?” and I was ready to pay for it.
At the end of your first post you said you really cannot afford to pay for the repair. I’m a bit perplexed that you refused the repair the first time because of the charges, went back later “ready to pay for it” but then say you cannot afford the repairs.

Which is it? if you could not afford the repairs the first time, and cannot aford the repair now, how is it you went in the second time prepared to pay for it?

I’m not merely trying to put you on the spot, but I think you know whether the acts were honest and that you might perhaps be pleasantly surprised to have found out that some here are able to help you rationalize this out to be a no-fault situation…but you wouldn’t be asking about it if it felt okay…that’s what our conscience is for (to put up those little red flags that make us have second thoughts or regrets as the case may be).

You could return to the store and ask them about it, saying “here’s what happened, and I am pleased they repaired it, but I’m worried that perhaps I should have volunteered that the camera was dropped”. More than likely they will say “hey, no problem, we got it covered and it is in the past, we want you to be happy with your investment”.

Then you can go home and sleep soundly.

Peace,
Chris W
 
At the end of your first post you said you really cannot afford to pay for the repair. I’m a bit perplexed that you refused the repair the first time because of the charges, went back later “ready to pay for it” but then say you cannot afford the repairs.

Which is it? if you could not afford the repairs the first time, and cannot aford the repair now, how is it you went in the second time prepared to pay for it?

I’m not merely trying to put you on the spot, but I think you know whether the acts were honest and that you might perhaps be pleasantly surprised to have found out that some here are able to help you rationalize this out to be a no-fault situation…but you wouldn’t be asking about it if it felt okay…that’s what our conscience is for (to put up those little red flags that make us have second thoughts or regrets as the case may be).

You could return to the store and ask them about it, saying “here’s what happened, and I am pleased they repaired it, but I’m worried that perhaps I should have volunteered that the camera was dropped”. More than likely they will say “hey, no problem, we got it covered and it is in the past, we want you to be happy with your investment”.

Then you can go home and sleep soundly.

Peace,
Chris W
Well, the past few months I was able to save enough money for the service. Btw, it’s not the store, it’s the service centre.
Well, I see it as a gift from God, because 165 bucks is a huge amount of money for me.

Actually, I’m asking it because I want to know whether it’ll be okay if I donate portion of the money since I think it’ll be useful for the church building fund in my parish or for the needy. I know it’s small sum of money, but I think it’ll be useful.
 
That is ridiculous. However, to the original poster, were you that surprised when you got a response like this? People have some really strict and harsh views here.
No, that response was not strict and harsh, it was morally correct.

To the OP:

Call the service centre, explain the situation and ask what is happening regarding any charges. You might have a bill in the post right now.

It is not good enough to simply half state the facts and attempt to let them sort it out.

If this was your parents business, would you be happy with customers doing it to them?

165 dollars might be a lot of money to you, but its not yours anyway. It is Gods, and you are a steward of it.

Do the right thing and pay the store (if they say so following the call).

Peace and God Bless.
 
It’s not “theft” if they give you something.

It would be totally overscrupulous to go back and offer to pay for something they gave you. Next stop, the loony bin.

I say, leave it alone.
 
It’s not “theft” if they give you something.

It would be totally overscrupulous to go back and offer to pay for something they gave you. Next stop, the loony bin.

I say, leave it alone.
No.

Next step: holiness.

You think its not theft? Then give me another word for it.
 
No.

Next step: holiness.

You think its not theft? Then give me another word for it.
Customer loyalty bonus. Loss leader. Advertising write-off. Whatever you call a “don’t go to the competition down the street and buy a new camera for less than we can fix this one for” action.

It’s a perfectly normal business practice. I do it. Most anyone who’s not just working for the paycheque, but actually cares about their company does it.

Again - they knew exactly what was going on. (Unless they’re morons. In which case they would have been unable to fix the camera.) They were not “hoodwinked” into giving something that should not have been given. If there had been an issue, believe me, they would have phoned the customer as soon as they opened the camera, and realized that the customer had obviously dropped it. If they were going to charge for fixing it, they would have. They didn’t. The proper response is to say “Thank you,” and move on.
 
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