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the muslim terrorists proclaimed the endless jihad.&maximum muslim support them.in near past our country ppl also supported it but now they claim that its reall islam!but sura9:5,29,38,39 prove that jihad is very important for a muslim.the rule for christian&jews,conversion or pay tribute,neither die!for pagan just 2 potion,convert or dif.so if muslims try to do that with us wat should we do?shouldn’t we protest them?
 
Uh, how’s that again? Sorry, I don’t understand what you’re trying to say. . .
 
"now maximum ppl claim that its the real islam"my mistake.actually now our ppl claim that its not real islam.then read the verses of quran.cuz quran said that all muslim have to jihad.i gave reference in my previous post.so shouldn’t we protest them?
 
its very easy.muslims birth rate is very high.once they wil invade west using western democracy.then they will take all western country under sharia law.then what we will do?
 
morning_star777 said:
its very easy.muslims birth rate is very high.once they wil invade west using western democracy.then they will take all western country under sharia law.then what we will do?
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You ask a great question. I also wonder what will happen to the Vatican when Islam finally takes control of Italy. There was a recent statement by a Muslim leader saying that they expect to take Rome just as they did Constantinople.

Will the so-called moderate Muslims respond on the side of no compulsion in religion?

I would like to hear fro the muslims that frequent this forum. Would you stand with moderate Christians to oppose Jihadists?

Or will selfishness and greed eventually cause Islam to die out just as European Christianity has?
 
mark_a said:
You ask a great question. I also wonder what will happen to the Vatican when Islam finally takes control of Italy. There was a recent statement by a Muslim leader saying that they expect to take Rome just as they did Constantinople.

Will the so-called moderate Muslims respond on the side of no compulsion in religion?

I would like to hear fro the muslims that frequent this forum. Would you stand with moderate Christians to oppose Jihadists?

Or will selfishness and greed eventually cause Islam to die out just as European Christianity has?
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Or will America have succumbed to totalitarian gullibility as the obsession to believe, as a potential reality, each and every thing any Muslim crank says and each and every thing every anti-Muslim crank says is finally victorious?
 
A high birthrate is a good indication of taking religion seriously.

Until Catholics again start to take their religion seriously, Islam will continue to gain on Catholicism. But luckily Jesus guaranteed us that the gates of hell would not prevail against his church, so we can be assured that we will always stand strong.
 
morning_star777 said:
the muslim terrorists proclaimed the endless jihad.&maximum muslim support them.in near past our country ppl also supported it but now they claim that its reall islam!but sura9:5,29,38,39 prove that jihad is very important for a muslim.the rule for christian&jews,conversion or pay tribute,neither die!for pagan just 2 potion,convert or dif.so if muslims try to do that with us wat should we do?shouldn’t we protest them?
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Hi

The terrorists are ignorant and illiterate people but are fellow human beings. Those living in the developed countries have an obligation to educate them peacefully. Just tell them that Islam is a peaceful religion and Muhammad was a peaceful person.

There is no verse in Quran which has any commandment of violence in it; this could be proved from the usual context of five preceding and five following verses. One has to devote a little time to verify it from reading and understanding Quran; which could be accessed online on website:
www03.alisla m.org
The Holy Quran
alislam.org/quran/tafseer/guide.htm?region=E1

Thanks
 
paarsurrey if u r ahmadi muslim then you&ur prophet mirza gulam ahmad must be peacefull,bt muhammad isnt peaceful.i was a muslim.i know quran very well.read sura9:5,29,38,39.but i heard that ahmadias edited quran(i am nt sure).but if you will read the quran that sunni muslim read you will find the violence.i also know the sunni&shiah muslims always abuse ahmadi muslims.i am bangladeshi.i am the witness.hope you also know.
 
Im not worried, as Danny said, the gates of hell shall not prevail against the church, we have Jesus on our side 👍
 
dolphinlove said:
Im not worried, as Danny said, the gates of hell shall not prevail against the church, we have Jesus on our side 👍
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The only reason the gates of hell failed is because the Church ACTED AGGRESSIVELY against it.
 
AgnosTheist said:
The only reason the gates of hell failed is because the Church ACTED AGGRESSIVELY against it.
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A worldly force that depends on aggression could not possibly sustain its splendor for 2,000 years. Reason says something at else is at play. Something divine.
 
Danny_OC said:
A worldly force that depends on aggression could not possibly sustain its splendor for 2,000 years. Reason says something at else is at play. Something divine.
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I say its a combination of these:
  • An attractive religious ideology (peaceful conversions)
  • Clever political maneuverings (convert the king, you convert the people. Limiting the rights of other religions)
  • Fraud (faking miracle events)
  • Violent Aggression (crusades, inquistions, conquistas, etc)
Those were also the tactics of Islam which is why it too was able to resist the Gates of Hell.
 
it isn’t impossible that there will be a resurgence of Christian faith in Europe. Current trends may not continue. There are many factors that could cuase things to move in directions which we aren’t considering. Climate change being one of them.

for instance, when I was a kid everyone was terribied of global nuclear war. the forces of world communism after WWII appeared unstoppable. The U>S spent huge fortunes opposing communism in various places, like Korea and Vietnam, with mixed success, and lots of failure. And then suddenly the S.U. collapsed, and guess what force had the most impact on the collapse of world communism? Yes, the decrepit, failing Catholic Church, under command of a polish priest who has no armies, no money to speak of. now the point can be validly made that world communism ate itself up from the inside thru corruption. And the same point can be made about world islam. it is a corrupt, failing culture and the failure is already well advanced. but when the air fianally comes out of the balloon, it will come out very fast.
 
^ religion is an entirely different beast. Christianity has been fighting islam for 1400 years now. And look, its overtaken catholicism.

communism is peanuts compared to islam. youll have to be more creative in suppressing it.
 
A Cambodian Buddhist friend of our family’s said something recently…she said, "In Buddhism, you kill, you go to hell…in Christian religion, you kill, you go to hell.

But in Muslim religion, you kill, you go to heaven?!"

I think that sums up how a lot of Americans are thinking (I realize moderate Muslims do not believe if you kill you go to Heaven, but I’m just stating what she said.)
 
AgnosTheist said:
I say its a combination of these:
  • An attractive religious ideology (peaceful conversions)
  • Clever political maneuverings (convert the king, you convert the people. Limiting the rights of other religions)
  • Fraud (faking miracle events)
  • Violent Aggression (crusades, inquistions, conquistas, etc)
Those were also the tactics of Islam which is why it too was able to resist the Gates of Hell.
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Islam is not a unified religion like Catholicism. The gates of hell have indeed prevailed against it (if it were not already a force from Hell- in some regards at least)

Many nations have employed the tactics you present with incomparably less success than the Catholic Church has seen in Her days. She has remained one, unified body; despite so many attempts to disband her, the second greatest religious force in the World comes nowhere close. No other nation nor religion in history can hold a candle to Catholicism.
 
^ I’m just saying the fact that in the past the CC worked for its survival. How would it work now to gain the upperhand on islam?
 
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