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zab
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Never heard of that.
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janeway529
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I know that in LA cars are provided for clergy, but apparently that isn’t necessarily the case in San Antonio, for example.Never heard of that.
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DL82
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The Salesians also do not (technically) take a vow of poverty.
At the time that Don Bosco was founding the Salesian order, the government of Turin was aggressively secular, and forbade the founding of new religious orders where men and women gave up their right to private possessions. To get around this, when a man enters the Salesians, his property is held in trust - he is technically still the owner, but vows not to use or sell them - and when he dies the property is bequeathed to the order in his will.
Have been trying to search for an image of the Czartoryski monstrance - a monstrance made from the crown jewels of Prince Czartoryski, a Polish prince who joined the Salesians in the 19th century, but no-one seems to have put this online.
At the time that Don Bosco was founding the Salesian order, the government of Turin was aggressively secular, and forbade the founding of new religious orders where men and women gave up their right to private possessions. To get around this, when a man enters the Salesians, his property is held in trust - he is technically still the owner, but vows not to use or sell them - and when he dies the property is bequeathed to the order in his will.
Have been trying to search for an image of the Czartoryski monstrance - a monstrance made from the crown jewels of Prince Czartoryski, a Polish prince who joined the Salesians in the 19th century, but no-one seems to have put this online.
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Deltadeliquent
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So, if Jesuits are not supposed to strive for honours or have ambition…
Who does one become Pope?
Who does one become Pope?
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SuscipeMeDomine
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Striving for honors is different from responding when one is called. In the same way, Jesuits may become bishops or take other leadership positions.So, if Jesuits are not supposed to strive for honours or have ambition…
Who does one become Pope?
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TimothyH
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God calls him. He responds to God’s call.So, if Jesuits are not supposed to strive for honours or have ambition…
Who does one become Pope?
The cardinals recognized his gifts and prompted by the Holy Spirit, elected him to be the Pope. Docile to the Holy Spirit, Cardinal Bergoglio said yes.
-Tim-
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Deltadeliquent
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I know, I just thought it was ironic…
Can you even get to be a cardinal without being a political animal?..
Can you even get to be a cardinal without being a political animal?..
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otjm
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No, but more than one diocesan priest has been heard to say “Order priests take the vow of poverty. We just live it.”I’d actually wondered about that and didn’t know the answer. So I take it Diocesan priests are not required to take a vow of poverty. Thanks for clearing that up.
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