What wage is just?

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If it’s sophistry, you should have no problem refuting my points.
You should have no problem refuting your own post… Search “China slave labor” to see how modern slavery works. Falsely imprison, force to work, pretend to pay.
 
My understanding is that in Denmark, all workers are organized by trade unions that bargain salaries with employers. Since they have 100% coverage by their unions, maybe they don’t see the negative aspect of unions that we see in the US.
I had a discussion with a person from Denmark above. The state paid for his entire college education. They have cradle to grave entitlements. The wealthy pay the highest tax I have ever seen in my research. The Dane I spoke to said he makes it up by paying high taxes when he gets his job. At least he majored in something worthwhile. I asked him how people who have blow off majors in art or literature ever pay their debt, and he said something about them paying by making the world a better and prettier place. Yeah…I don’t think so.
 
Again, we live in the best country in the world.
Not really.

It’s a good country but hardly great.

Not when people are driven to bankruptcy due to being sick and in need of medical care.

Not when cops are militarized and would shoot first and ask questions later.
 
I asked him how people who have blow off majors in art or literature ever pay their debt, and he said something about them paying by making the world a better and prettier place.
If they finish their education on time, they will have zero study debt. I didn’t finish on time as I changed majors from Nanotechnology to Physics, so I have a small amount of debt.

Those of have studied the humanities enrich the culture, and they help elevate discussions. People who only focus on STEM are little more than glorified technicians.
 
It could also be argued that a single guy can live cheaper on Ramen noodles if he has to (I did this) while the married guy will demand ever increasing wages because his wife and kids nag him.

Single people have more flexible schedules and can work late or on weekends. Married people are bogged down in family obligations.
It is for reasons like this, how destructive the individualistic free market place is to the family that a lot of traditional Catholics are a bit critical of a completely unfettered free market place.
 
Not really. Economics doesn’t talk about responsibilities. Morals are no more a question of economics than they are of physics.
 
how destructive the individualistic free market place is to the family that a lot of traditional Catholics are a bit critical of a completely unfettered free market place.
Nobody is for an unfettered free market place, that’s a strawman.
 
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My understanding is that in Denmark, all workers are organized by trade unions that bargain salaries with employers. Since they have 100% coverage by their unions, maybe they don’t see the negative aspect of unions that we see in the US.
I had a discussion with a person from Denmark above. The state paid for his entire college education. They have cradle to grave entitlements. The wealthy pay the highest tax I have ever seen in my research. The Dane I spoke to said he makes it up by paying high taxes when he gets his job. At least he majored in something worthwhile. I asked him how people who have blow off majors in art or literature ever pay their debt, and he said something about them paying by making the world a better and prettier place. Yeah…I don’t think so.
So no Pieta? No Notre Dame or St Peters? No glorious medieval illuminated manuscripts? No sublime church music by Bach and Mozart? No sections of the Bible that are pure history (Chronicles), philosophy (Proverbs and Wisdom) and poetry (Song of Songs) with a dash of sociology thrown in (Numbers)?

The arts (and art in general) at their best enhance our understanding of God and bring us closer to Him. He doesn’t need to create the heavenly scent of a rose or the beautiful colours of fall/autumn foliage. He doesn’t need to number the hairs of our heads either. He does so because He is the supreme artist and loves beauty, as well as the supreme philosopher, sociologist, historian etc.
 
It’s a huge thread, but with regards to wages, I am almost certain I can find people who are.
 
So no Pieta? No Notre Dame or St Peters? No glorious medieval illuminated manuscripts? No sublime church music by Bach and Mozart? No sections of the Bible that are pure history (Chronicles), philosophy (Proverbs and Wisdom) and poetry (Song of Songs) with a dash of sociology thrown in (Numbers)?
In all fairness, I don’t see many of these types of creations coming out of the modern “arts” programs. Most highly talented, creative, artistic people don’t bother with the whole degree thing. Why would they?
 
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