What Westboro Baptists and "gay" activists have in common is...

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Prodigal_Son1 said:
The uncharitable mention could simply be a questioning of motivations behind intents of some posts, and not a silencing weapon. The silencing accusation, which seems to insinuate support of something, is itself questionable and might be used as silencing any simple reminders for charity.

There are** so many ‘gay’ threads, some which are similar to the Pharisees in pointing out one’s own perception of their own holiness by bringing out the ‘truth’ of some else’s wickedness. ** While it maybe truth, both intents are questionable when searching the scriptures for validation.

An likewise example of this type thread, without explanation, would be a simple comparison of Westboro Baptist Church and some Catholics, both who cannot discuss this issue charitably. Surely that would inflame some on these forums.

We are Catholics and cannot support any sins, but are not called to an ‘activism’ of hated, lack of respect, or a lack of charity towards the sinners.
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yeah, I noticed that too…interesting…:hmmm:
 
livingwordunity said:
Like the “don’t judge” card, the “uncharitable” card is often a two-edge sword. Someone has to make a judgement to judge that someone else is judging. In the same way, calling someone “uncharitable” isn’t exactly saying something nice about them. And when the charge isn’t true, it can be a way of unjustly vilifying them.
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One does not necessarily ‘judge’ a person for ‘judging’.

One simply recognises that another person is doing so and states a fact.

I could ‘judge’ you morally questionable for making the judgement statement, but I don’t. However I do recognise that you made the statement because the evidence is there in front of me. Please recognise the difference.
 
I noticed that there seem to be a lot of “gay” threads created by someone who just became a member that same day (:hmmm:) that seek pity and approval for some sort of homosexual relationship.
 
livingwordunity said:
Like the “don’t judge” card, the “uncharitable” card is often a two-edge sword. Someone has to make a judgement to judge that someone else is judging. In the same way, calling someone “uncharitable” isn’t exactly saying something nice about them. And when the charge isn’t true, it can be a way of unjustly vilifying them so that others will question their motivation rather than what they actually said. 🙂
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Even truth has different ways of being delivered. Christ, and the Church, call us to speak truth with love and charity.
 
livingwordunity said:
I noticed that there seem to be a lot of “gay” threads created by someone who just became a member that same day (:hmmm:) that seek pity and approval for some sort of homosexual relationship.
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Ah yes. Very astute. The usual emotionalistic play for sympathy over truth.
 
DexUK said:
Well, for a start, you have no evidence that ‘gay activists’ specifically ‘hate the church’.
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livingwordunity said:
I would post a picture of the “gay” activists who protested at the Vatican, but since the words are written on their naked bodies I can’t.

I can say that some of the words written on their bodies is a “four letter word” that begins with “F” and “God” and “Church”.

If that’s not hateful and extreme then neither are the Westboro Baptists.

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Here’s a picture that I can show.

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livingwordunity said:
I noticed that there seem to be a lot of “gay” threads created by someone who just became a member that same day (:hmmm:) that seek pity and approval for some sort of homosexual relationship.
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When Christians recognize another person’s sins, they should have pity, and mercy on that person, as we want the same from the Judge of us all.
 
livingwordunity said:
Here’s a picture that I can show.

http://extremecatholic.blogspot.com/images/chile_gay_protest.jpg
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And that is reprehensible.

But not ALL ‘gay activists’/sympathisers ‘hate’ the Church. Some do, some don’t. The premise of this thread, as opened and titled, is that all hate the Church. And that is not true and it is not proper to name a group of people who don’t all hold the same opinions and tell them they hate and to attempt to provoke reactions of similar hate in us.
 
Interesting how someone who has defended homosexual behaviour is lecturing me on “taught to behave” by the Church
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Perhaps I missed it, and if I did I apologize, but where did the poster defend homosexual behavior. The only thing I recall seeing defended were homosexual people.
 
livingwordunity said:
The “uncharitable” card seems to be used often as an emotional silencing weapon when someone can’t refute the truth of what someone else has said. The accusation is often a false one that is not based on what the one accused has actually said as in the case of the one who accused me. “Gay” activism really does promote hate and extremism just as much as Westboro Baptists do. Please see post #18. 🙂
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Some certainly does. I think the problem is in lumping a whole group of people together, because not everyone fits within the mold that you want to put them in.
 
Prodigal_Son1 said:
Even truth has different ways of being delivered. Christ, and the Church, call us to speak truth with love and charity.
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I think that today Christ would be accused of being “uncharitable” since He never compromises the truth.
 
CatholicGeek1 said:
Some certainly does. I think the problem is in lumping a whole group of people together, because not everyone fits within the mold that you want to put them in.
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By a whole group, do you mean “gay” activists? Do they not function as one unified organization?
 
livingwordunity said:
I think that today Christ would be accused of being “uncharitable” since He never compromises the truth.
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We have different ways of delivering truth. That doesn’t compromise that it is truth. Christ called us to love, even our enemies. His teachings are not uncharitable. Our deliveries of truth, however, can be.
 
livingwordunity said:
By a whole group, do you mean “gay” activists? Do they not function as one unified organization?
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I believe it is quite safe to assert that " “gay” activists" is not a homogenous group. Not only that, few, if any that I have become aware of don’t align themselve with any official organization. What is the name of this unifying organization?
 
livingwordunity said:
I think that today Christ would be accused of being “uncharitable” since He never compromises the truth.
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Nor should we, however, there are ways to deliver that truth that are good, and ways that are not so good.
 
livingwordunity said:
By a whole group, do you mean “gay” activists? Do they not function as one unified organization?
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As has been pointed out here many times, no they do not.

I am in favor of promoting non-violence against gays.
I am in favor of preventing discrimination based on someone’s sexual orientation.
These things could cause some to consider me a gay activist.

However,
I am not in favor of gay marriage.
I am not in favor of legitimizing homosexual acts.
 
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