What would you think of female deacons?

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On the one hand, I agree with you.

On the other hand, we’ve reached the point where we can no longer remain silent about the truth of the historical and theological facts.

There is so much talk out there that misleads people, that we are obligated to reply. We cannot remain silent any longer on this topic.
 
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Exactly right. Marriage Preparation should be mandatory. Relationships and building trust and friendship are required. Not, You’re hot, I’m hot, and let’s have a big wedding or even a small wedding. Both parties need to ask, "If we get married, what do you expect and want? I had a girlfriend who told me: “I want money for clothes, trips and jewelry, and a big house.” Uh… I can’t afford all that. Even if both of us were working.
 
I’ve been seeing some threads pop up about female altar servers, female priests, etc. What about female deacons? Currently only male deacons are allowed, but I think Pope Francis is open to the idea at the moment. What are your thoughts?
It’s a waste of time, resources and emotions to discuss something that cannot ever happen. It also causes division, false hope and bitterness.
 
Some did not know it couldn’t happen. So it is a good thing it was discussed. Now the case is closed, and we are informed.
 
Some did not know it couldn’t happen.
I meant within the Church, not just CAF. This non-issue (along with the notion of female priests) consumes so many resources and emotions within the Church. It’s terribly sad.
 
I believe if permanent deacons were not allowed to preach during the Mass, and if their vestments were simply a white alb sans stole or dalmatic (no, I’m not advocating for either change), I suspect the interest/demand for female deaconesses in the Church would plummet overnight to a fraction of today without any other changes to the permanent diaconate.
 
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This is an example of a situation where the headline does not express the reality being discussed.

The letter confuses two terms “deaconess” and “female deacon.” The two are not the same thing.

Even the text of the letter admits that. To give one example. take this sentence “Above all, the process requires that the role and functions of the deaconess be identified, properly defined, and clearly stated.”

Let’s think that through, please. If the signers were truly writing about “female deacons” then there would be no question as to role or function, or for that matter anything else. If they truly intended female deacons, then there would be NOTHING to discuss or decide. Obviously, they recognize that such questions do need to be answered.

I also want to caution readers that the Eastern approach to the Mysteries (Sacraments) is not the same as the West. We have the same sacraments, but very different ways of speaking about them. The East is much looser in its vocabulary. For example, the Greek word “chirotony” only loosely translates as “ordination” in English. Yes, it refers to the ordination of a priest. However, it also refers to all kinds of installations and ceremonies which a Western speaker would never call an ordination–such as the installation of an arch-priest, an arch-deacon, what we now call a vicar general, consecration of a new church building, or consecration of a new baptistry. The Eastern Churches ordain readers, while the West no longer uses that word. One could even legitimately translate the “chirotony of a new cemetery” as the “ordination of a cemetery.” So we must be very careful about translating words and concepts from Eastern usage into Western.
 
I think it would be awesome and I would be among the first to apply.
 
Luke as a Gospel writer is one of the best, and also arguably one of the best Biblical writers. Luke writes in his Gospel, on women. In this Gospel , women have a prominent place, are on par with men and we read of parallel
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Mary and Zechariah in the annunciation sequences (Lk 1:5-38); Anna and Simeon at the presentation (Lk 2:22-38); the man with the lost sheep and the woman with the lost coin (Lk 15:1-10).

Likes Hospel is all about kindness peace compassion forgiveness. Might be time for people to re read it in our society.

Concentrate on who did what, and respect those roles.
 
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