What's the difference between Mormons and Jehovah's witnesses?

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Balcerhouse said:
I always get the two mixed up and I know I could search it on google but I’d prefer to hear it from a Catholic perspective. So what’s the difference between mormons and jehovahs witnesses (other than jehovah’s witnesses love to come and witness to me at home on Saturday at 9am)?
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Jehovah’s Witnesses also come on holidays because they don’t celebrate them, but they are off of work for them. (Think : Thanksgiving)

And Mormons come to your house too.

They are two very different religions. Both consider themselves to be Christian. And both are very difficult to get away from.
 
Christianad2 said:
Do you see the name Jehovah in anything I have sent? Research the scrolls your bible was written from? I have used the Tetragrammaton…

I have not stated what Jesus is only scriptures that speak about it… His disciples stated his was the Son of God, The Father Stated he is his beloved Son, what more do you need? Why would Jesus hand the Kingdom back to himself. This the King James version of the bible from bible.cc

Matt 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

Matt 8:29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with Thee, Jesus, Thou Son of God?

Matt 3:17 And, lo, a voice from heaven, saying, This is My beloved Son, in Whom I am well pleased.

Do you really have to be annoited to understand this 1 Corinthians 15:20-28? This is not a JW bible but a KJV…Look at this…Once Jesus has reversed what Adam caused he will hand the Kingdom back to the Father, that the Father may be all to everyone or “all in all”. If Jesus and the Father are the same or equal why does he hand the Kingdom back to the Father. Are they not one in the same? Read below…

kingjbible.com/1_corinthians/15.htm

1 Corinthians 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming. 24Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

I just want people to think about this. Secondly, these scriptures have a very deep meaning. What are firstfruits? Can someone please lookup the procedure required in harvesting a field?
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Your posts have to do with the Catholic doctrines of the Trinity and the Hypostatic Union (Second Person of the Trinity taking on a human nature). If you wish to discuss those topics, you should open a thread on that title. (Eg. “How other faiths differ from Catholics on the Trinity”)

This thread is to talk about the difference between Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses. It is not about how one, or both, differ from Catholicism.
 
Christianad2 said:
That is exactly what I have used YHWH the letters of the Hebrew tetragrammaton. Yes it was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, are you aware that the Septuagints before 200 CE, used the name of GOD or the Tetragrammaton? The codecs Jesus and his disciples read from used GOD’S name…

eliyah.com/lxx.html

I have not condemned what you believe, but have tried to encourage people to read their bibles. I have not stood for beliefs of JWs or Mormons, only the scriptures, and yet I was kicked off this site for using the words of GOD. You people have a nice day.
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Your prior statements frequently lacked a thesis. If you want to start a conversation on the Tetragrammaton, it’s use by JWs, and its use or disuse by Catholics you need to write a coherent thesis statement. Just bouncing around with questions and random quotations is not getting your point across.
 
Christianad2 said:
Proven wrong? How can you prove a scripture wrong from your bible? Look at my post…
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I have. You have been proven wrong. You have also proven that you cannot follow rules and you ignore the fact you were banned.
 
JW’s do not believe in blood transfusions as Acts 15:20 says, “Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood.”
 
TexanKnight said:
you have been banned and you came back? I see you have no capacity for learning
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What have you contributed to this thread besides commenting on every scripture I have quoted. I have not stated you don’t have the capacity to learn I am encouraging people to read. If I were trying to harm you or your belief would I be coming to you encouraging you to read your bible? To look for deeper treasures withing the sacred scrolls, and knowledge of GOD. How am I wrong for trying to share scripture and encourgaging people to read the bible? Should GOD’s word be limited to a specific focus or can we learn about GOD anytime?
 
Christianad2 said:
What have you contributed to this thread besides commenting on every scripture I have quoted. I have not stated you don’t have the capacity to learn I am encouraging people to read. If I were trying to harm you or your belief would I be coming to you encouraging you to read your bible? To look for deeper treasures withing the sacred scrolls, and knowledge of GOD. How am I wrong for trying to share scripture and encourgaging people to read the bible? Should GOD’s word be limited to a specific focus or can we learn about GOD anytime?
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I say that because you were BANNED and yet came back AGAINST THE RULES.

that shows a lack of respect and a huge sign of your feeling of self-importance.

Why should anyone listen to you with all of that?
 
JHow said:
Your prior statements frequently lacked a thesis. If you want to start a conversation on the Tetragrammaton, it’s use by JWs, and its use or disuse by Catholics you need to write a coherent thesis statement. Just bouncing around with questions and random quotations is not getting your point across.
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You are correct…If you don’t see the treasures in the Word of God, It is not meant for you…So I will stick to the thread…You want rules on the Word of God so be it.
 
Hi ChristianAD…

My mother opened her home to Jehovah Witnesses and their booklets. I would come into town and visit her, and likewise go through the booklets.

Every single booklet had an article with pictures of Catholics doing things and totally misrepresenting their actions. I went to the Catholic hospital here with a client and sat in an area to wait. Right next to me was another Watchtower magazine dissing Catholics.

One time our parish asked the JW’s across the street if we could borrow some space from their parking lot to assist parishioners and they flatly refused.

I was asked to join a Protestant prayer group on the psalms and when I said I was a Roman Catholic, the former Jehovah Witness looked at me with such contempt…and some other non-denominationals pulled back from me, and the leader told them it was a Catholic priest who led her to the Holy Spirit movement…but the group was then disbanded.

How I come to Christ in the Catholic Church fills me so much of Him that I do not need to be more or better Christian by dissing other religions. Our Church does not put out a magazine or ever mention anything about Jehovah Witnesses. You go to Mass and you never hear a priest put down anybody or Jehovah Witnesses.

How do you consolidate your practices with Christianity and spreading Christ? It seems your religions position is that you are the Christians, finally arriving 1800 years later, and coming out of America, so far from the Holy Land…with a great big gap of years and oceans. It would be a supernatural event, but alas, only the Jehovah Witnesses themselves and other Stone Campbell movement Restorationists of anti Catholic 1800 America do such.

I think somebody is steering you the wrong way and your positions are all reactionary based on false assumptions and lack of scriptural history…obtained by cherry picking.

I pray for you and many others caught up in these movements that are so totally in
 
I feel like ChristianAD wants us to follow his logic step-by-step so that we can arrive at Gus conclusion (whatever it is). I feel this is backward and un-productive. This is the Internet: Spit it out, and provide support.

I would add this to the list if common characteristics if JW and LDS: a predilection for “hidden knowledge”, as if there is some big conspiracy and if we only possessed all the minor details we would see what the truth is. It’s a forest-trees thing.
 
Christianad2 said:
You are correct…If you don’t see the treasures in the Word of God, It is not meant for you…So I will stick to the thread…You want rules on the Word of God so be it.
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The Hebrew Tetragrammaton is written into a stained glass window in my parish church. So exactly how are Catholics abusing it? Please state a thesis.
 
TexanKnight said:
I say that because you were BANNED and yet came back AGAINST THE RULES.

that shows a lack of respect and a huge sign of your feeling of self-importance.

Why should anyone listen to you with all of that?
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How when I have done nothing but quote God’s Word, and you don’t accept it nor me.

Jesus was rejected for quoting the words of GOD?

John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. 19If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. 20Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. 21But all these things will they do unto you for my name’s sake, because they know not him that sent me. 22If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin. 23He that hateth me hateth my Father also. 24If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father. 25But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.
 
Christianad2 said:
How when I have done nothing but quote God’s Word, and you don’t accept it nor me.
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Then start a new thread called, “Quoting God’s word.”

And allow those of us that are talking about the differences between Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses stay here and discuss it.

Do you generally walk up to people having a conversation and start quoting the Bible, refusing to stop? That is what you have done here.

Please stop it.
 
JHow said:
The Hebrew Tetragrammaton is written into a stained glass window in my parish church. So exactly how are Catholics abusing it? Please state a thesis.
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That is great. Abuse? I am just trying to make sure I follow the scriptures in Exodus 3:15 YHWH (Yahweh), where we are Instructed to use this name forever. Do you feel this is very important?
 
JHow said:
I feel like ChristianAD wants us to follow his logic step-by-step so that we can arrive at Gus conclusion (whatever it is). I feel this is backward and un-productive. This is the Internet: Spit it out, and provide support.

I would add this to the list if common characteristics if JW and LDS: a predilection for “hidden knowledge”, as if there is some big conspiracy and if we only possessed all the minor details we would see what the truth is. It’s a forest-trees thing.
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Now let’s get back to the differences and similarities. Mormons have a quorum of 12 elders governing their church. JWs have a governing body of 8 members governing their church.

Neither religion has fancy churches, and they actually call their services meetings.

Mormons baptize the dead.

Non-Mormons are not allowed in their temple.

JWs do not allow blood transfusions.

Mormons meet on Sunday, JWs meet on Saturday.

Both abstain alcohol and cigarettes, and can be cast out or disciplined by their church for non-abstinence and sexual impropriety.

Both are BIG on door to door prothelytising and passing out literature.

Mormons use other books such as the Book of Mormon and the King James Version of the Bible.

Mormons have mandatory tithes, JWs do not.
 
maryjk said:
Then start a new thread called, “Quoting God’s word.”

And allow those of us that are talking about the differences between Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses stay here and discuss it.

Do you generally walk up to people having a conversation and start quoting the Bible, refusing to stop? That is what you have done here.

Please stop it.
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If that is how you feel I apologize, I personally Love God, and anything that oozes his kingdom, if someone quoted scripture he is a brother to me and I welcome him to my conversation. People are different, we respect the Word of God differently.

Either way I apologize if the scriptures of GOD have troubled you.
 
Christianad2 said:
How when I have done nothing but quote God’s Word, and you don’t accept it nor me.

Jesus was rejected for quoting the words of GOD?

John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. 19If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. 20Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. 21But all these things will they do unto you for my name’s sake, because they know not him that sent me. 22If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin. 23He that hateth me hateth my Father also. 24If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father. 25But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.
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If you took the time to read the rules of the forums you would see that the thread was cleaned up (posts removed) due to the conversation moving off the top of “What’s the difference between Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses.” You instigated this very early on, you were told that if you want to discuss this with the people on this forum then you would need to start a new thread.

You ignored this, and kept on posting. As a brand new poster the Admins decided to ban you since you did not correct yourself after being exposed to the rules.

Please start a new thread if you wish to discuss these scriptures in details. I and others would be more than happy to have a more in depth discussion, but it will not be in this thread.
 
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