What's the ONE Catholic Doctrine that you disagree with most?

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Great question. It is the word “equally” from Lateran IV and also the phrase “as from one principle” which is Lyons II or Florence or both which are the big problems. There is a venerable Orthodox teaching that the Spirit proceeds from the Father and “rests” in the Son. Even “proceeds from the Father through the Son” has been found acceptable in Orthodoxy. It is the idea of the Father and the Son together eternally generating the Spirit that is problematic. I would recommend Chapter 4 of “In the Image and Likeness of God” by Lossky as the best discussion of the Orthodox position.
Thanks. I am looking around for something equivalent to “Eastern Orthodoxy for (Catholic) Dummies”. I don’t want anything too technical, and I don’t want anything adversarial to RCC, but I would like something written on a moderate level, from the EO POV.
 
Thanks. I am looking around for something equivalent to “Eastern Orthodoxy for (Catholic) Dummies”. I don’t want anything too technical, and I don’t want anything adversarial to RCC, but I would like something written on a moderate level, from the EO POV.
Kallistos Ware’s The Orthodox Church. Far and away the best introduction to Orthodoxy. The Orthodox Way by the same author is great too, if you want a guide to Orthodox spirituality rather than a comprehensive account.
 
Thanks. I am looking around for something equivalent to “Eastern Orthodoxy for (Catholic) Dummies”.
Good series. 👍 “Eastern Orthodoxy for (Anglican) Dummies”, “Eastern Orthodoxy for (Lutheran) Dummies”, “Eastern Orthodoxy for (Methodist) Dummies” … I just don’t think I could afford them all.
 
Good series. 👍 “Eastern Orthodoxy for (Anglican) Dummies”, “Eastern Orthodoxy for (Lutheran) Dummies”, “Eastern Orthodoxy for (Methodist) Dummies” … I just don’t think I could afford them all.
I’ll buy the one you think I will.
 
I’m not sure if this is considered Doctrinal, but I don’t like that you can only switch to a different Rite once. Honestly it seems a bit silly to limit it to only once. I mean, people shouldn’t just constantly be switching, but it seems a bit odd to simply give it one chance eternally.
 
I’m not sure if this is considered Doctrinal, but I don’t like that you can only switch to a different Rite once. Honestly it seems a bit silly to limit it to only once. I mean, people shouldn’t just constantly be switching, but it seems a bit odd to simply give it one chance eternally.
There are exceptions to that rule.
 
Purgatory.
It is not biblical.
If you wish to dispute that statement please give a list of scriptures in the order you wish them read.
A spirited debate can follow after I have reviewed your evedence.
 
I would choose not being able to get communion for divorced Catholics. Jesus said to take this all of you and eat.
 
Purgatory.
It is not biblical.
If you wish to dispute that statement please give a list of scriptures in the order you wish them read.
A spirited debate can follow after I have reviewed your evedence.
Ok…I will provide biblical passages, and even trace purgatory’s roots from the Judaism and the OT.

But first, you have to provide the basis for the following:

Who will determine what is biblical and what is not and what will be the basis for determining something whether it is biblical or not?
 
Ok…I will provide biblical passages, and even trace purgatory’s roots from the Judaism and the OT.

But first, you have to provide the basis for the following:

Who will determine what is biblical and what is not and what will be the basis for determining something whether it is biblical or not?
Simple: Prove to me using only scripture(NAB) that purgatory is real.
 
Simple: Prove to me using only scripture(NAB) that purgatory is real.
You have not provided any criteria by which you judge what scripture means.

If you want an answer, you need to be specific and exact in what you are asking for and in what exactly you will accept as truth.
 
Purgatory. It is not biblical. If you wish to dispute that statement please give a list of scriptures in the order you wish them read. A spirited debate can follow after I have reviewed your evedence.
[Mt5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art **in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into Prison. 26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, Till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.]

[LK 12:58 When thou goest with thine adversary to the magistrate, **as thou art in the way give diligence that thou mayest be delivered from him lest he hale thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and the officer cast thee into Prison. 59 I tell thee, thou shalt not depart thence, till thou hast paid the very last mite.

[1Cor3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;13 Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 14 If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. 16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. 18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.]

Please start a different line as purgatory is off topic.**
 
I’d have to say the most common around me is modern birth-control.

The argument goes like this-

The historical prohibition is centered around onanism and the use of abortifacients.

Onanism - Male climax outside the “lady parts”.
Abortifacients - Chemical or other means of terminating an extant pregnancy.

The pill requires neither mechanism as a woman simply doesn’t ovulate. No ovulation, no egg to fertilize. Ergo, the ancient church couldn’t have spoken upon it. As a concept, it simply didn’t exist to be considered.

“But it’s a frustration of your natural function.” - So is the most of the practice of medicine, like when you take your blood pressure or diabetes medications.

Complicating the issue further are a few additional considerations:
  1. The sexual activity in the Song of Songs looks awfully recreational. “Man, I wanna put a baby in there” doesn’t appear to be the over-arching theme. Some passages suggest out-right eroticism.
  2. There are places in the world, such as the Philippines, where if there’s any disruption at all to the flow of goods, death will quickly occur on an enormous scale. There is not enough arable land and fish in the near sea to perpetually feed that population if the boats stop coming. Over-population is real - which is a problem that didn’t exist in nearly the same way in the 1st century. This blue-green marble we’re on does have a capacity.
  3. In agrarian society, (what most societies were until the industrial revolution) a new baby simply meant planting a few extra rows during spring planting. That is not the case now. In the United States, there are certain minimums that we must provide for our children or the government will show up at our door to capture our kids. These minimums can be impossible to meet with too many kids because income is finite for many.
    In short, the cost of having kids is higher. Especially in the West. If you’re not prepared to help them beyond 18, they’ll live. They are just statistically not as likely to be AS successful as the kid with parents that did help (college, support during internships, ect.). Sure they might be the “super kid” that defied the odds! But “the odds” are “the odds” for a very real reason. Most don’t beat them.
It almost persuades a family to go Orthodox where they can conditionally get birth control AND recognized sacraments. 😃

Please be gentle in your anticipated condemnations. 😛
 
Maybe Non-Catholic Christians not being able to receive the Eucharist.

The Immaculate Conception I struggle with a bit.
 
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