What's with all the anti women threads recently??

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This is just getting rediculous. I’m going to ask a moderator to close this thread now.

Bucket…thanks so much. Your (name removed by moderator)ut was great. Your wife is very lucky!!!
 
This is just getting rediculous. I’m going to ask a moderator to close this thread now.

Bucket…thanks so much. Your (name removed by moderator)ut was great. Your wife is very lucky!!!
Should I give you a song before this thread closes?
 
I love men…I am a feminist. I love masculinity; I love feeling cared for and protected. I love being respected and cherished.

Thanks to all the men out there who love women, their femininity and their strength.

Thanks to all the men out there who are not afraid of their masculinity and can tap into their softer loving side without feeling inferior to women.
 
Bucket…thanks so much. Your (name removed by moderator)ut was great. Your wife is very lucky!!!
I assure you that I am the lucky one and that there has been many times where I have failed to live up to the vocation of marriage and in quite serious ways. I know I’ve wounded her deeply at times and I wounded myself in the process. I’m not talking the most grievous of all offenses, but grave ones nevertheless. I thank her daily that she has helped me put my own life back together and we’ve gotten our marriage back to a far more healthy place like the way it was when we first started this journey.

So I’m not trying to assert some kind of supremacy over others in how I’ve executed the charge Christ has given me because I have fallen tremendously short of it for too long. Sadly I clearly knew what the vocation of marriage was all about from the start and along the way I allowed the distraction of the world and the temptation of sin to nearly tear us apart. Makes me quite a bit worse than those who didn’t really know what they were doing. I am quite fortunate that my wife helped me return to God fully as it has helped us repair ourselves as well.
 
While God’s truth is eternal, the understanding of that Truth has developed and will continue to develop.

I will not presume to understand how a past Pope thought and can only conjecture. However, the last Pope was very clear about women not being subordinate and our present Pope did not then and does not now disagree. If the subjection of women is doctrine it would be in the CCC.

On the CCC:

. “On 11 October 1992, Pope John Paul II presented the Catechism of the Catholic Church to the faithful of the whole world, describing it as a “reference text”[1] for a catechesis renewed at the living sources of the faith. Thirty years after the opening of the Second Vatican Council (1962-1965), the desire for a catechism of all Catholic doctrine on faith and morals, which had been voiced in 1985 by the extraordinary Assembly of the Synod of Bishops, came to fulfilment.”

The above is in the Introduction to the Compendium to the CCC.
vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/archive_2005_compendium-ccc_en.html
Dear severus68,

Hello again and thankyou for your reply.

You will need, dear sister, to adduce solid irrefutable evidence to show that the encyclicals of Leo XIII and Pius XI have been officially abrogated and no longer form part of the ordinary magisterium of Holy Mother Church. It is not sufficient to appeal to our current Catechism, which may very well be “a sure norm for teaching the faith”, but that does not mean nor imply that it is the only valid source of teaching. Our Church nowhere teaches this. The onus is upon you to demonstrate where the teaching of St. Paul relating to the headship of the husband and the subjection to the wife has been officially set aside and declared no longer valid in the 21st. century.

How long are the teachings Paul VI, H.H.JPII or Benedict XVI good for, dear sister? Thus if a pontiff does not issue another encyclical on birth prevention for say the next century, at what point are the faithful no longer obligated to obey Humanae Vitae and Evangelium Vitae? If the magisterial teachings of the pre-Vatican II Popes go bad after a certain period of time, then would not the same apply to the post-VII Popes. Consider the case of the Catechism of the Council of Trent, which is still valid and good today and that the CCC cites said Catechism over 20 times. Indeed, it refers to it as “a work of first rank as a summary of Christian teaching” (para. 9).

What I think we need to guard against, dear sister, is the tendency among some Catholics, even those of a conservative bent, to ascribe a sort of creeping infallibility to almost everything uttered/written by the post-VII Popes, whilst choosing, often for polemical reasons, to not accept as authoritative and binding, anything said by the pre-VII pontiffs, almost dismissing it as culturally conditioned and irrelevant. Now that is clearly not the approach of an authentic Catholic mind and neither is it showing a pious reverence for Sacred Tradtion.

This novel opinion that the teaching of the current Church Catechism contains the entire deposit of faith, is untenable, for what are we to make of the papal encyclicals that have been published subsequent to the publication of the CCC? Are they also irrelevant until and unless they have been integrated into some revised edition of the Catechism?

Finally, this strange notion that all that matters is what is new, or that what has been taught by the Magisterium in times past as truth is now false, is a grave attack upon our most holy religion. As our Holy Father remarks, a tree without roots dies:

latinmassmagazine.com/art…Ripperger.html

God bless and goodbye for now, time for my supper. Thankyou for your courteous posts, dear sister.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax
 
I assure you that I am the lucky one and that there has been many times where I have failed to live up to the vocation of marriage and in quite serious ways. I know I’ve wounded her deeply at times and I wounded myself in the process. I’m not talking the most grievous of all offenses, but grave ones nevertheless. I thank her daily that she has helped me put my own life back together and we’ve gotten our marriage back to a far more healthy place like the way it was when we first started this journey.

So I’m not trying to assert some kind of supremacy over others in how I’ve executed the charge Christ has given me because I have fallen tremendously short of it for too long. Sadly I clearly knew what the vocation of marriage was all about from the start and along the way I allowed the distraction of the world and the temptation of sin to nearly tear us apart. Makes me quite a bit worse than those who didn’t really know what they were doing. I am quite fortunate that my wife helped me return to God fully as it has helped us repair ourselves as well.
life is a long journey…God bless.
 
We are Catholic not protestant. There are a lot of things in the bible that are not binding on Catholics.

But for what it’s worth, St Paul doesn’t teach that women should all submit to their husbands, and neither does the Church. But rather, the teaching is that each spouse has to submit to each other.

One of the posters here did a really good job of addressing this on the very first page of this thread:
Actually the man is the head of the woman, and God is the head of Christ. Some arrogant men take that to the extreme, but there is a functional hiearchy.
 
Actually the man is the head of the woman, and God is the head of Christ. Some arrogant men take that to the extreme, but there is a functional hiearchy.
Let’s try that again Johnny! You might want to amend your post to read that the husband is the head of the wife. not that man is the head of the women. That functional hierachy is only commanded within the marriage.
 
Oh Dear Lord, please get this thread closed! I got sucked back into it!!:eek:
 
Let’s try that again Johnny! You might want to amend your post to read that the husband is the head of the wife. not that man is the head of the women. That functional hierachy is only commanded within the marriage.
In marriage, yes.
 
The anti woman thing around here lately has really started to freak me out. I really didn’t know that there were still so many people who believe that women…
I agree very much. Even though I am someone who loves being a wife/mom, the vibe here in many threads is not flattering and in fact hurts my faith, not builds it up.
 
And I’m the neck that turns my husband’s head…

I never let him forget it!!!
 
I love and respect women but I think some women interpret the traditional view held by men as “anti woman”. Some men take it to far by saying a woman needs to stay home which is so antiquated it not worth discussing.

Woman must remember that many men were taught to view woman as the “weaker sex”. Society for ages has encouraged that and sometimes still does. I think the biggest dillema for men is seperating the social world with the work world. Many women want the chivelry connected to dating or marriage but in the work environment men must abandon their innate or taught views towards women.

I have had to change my outlook on women in the last 10 years. I have seen women do almost any job men can do, and make sure I stick up for them when they need an advocate. I know it’s been a hard road for women, but outside of the real male knuckleheads, many guys are genuinely trying to have newer balanced view of women, while still being men. Most importantly though, although this modern era has caused a sometimes unbalanced perspective on the sexes, we are Christian men and women, and that is where we should differ from the world in how we interact. Peace.
 
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