What's with all the anti women threads recently??

[Serap]

I love and respect women but I think some women interpret the traditional view held by men as “anti woman”. Some men take it to far by saying a woman needs to stay home which is so antiquated it not worth discussing.

Woman must remember that many men were taught to view woman as the “weaker sex”. Society for ages has encouraged that and sometimes still does. I think the biggest dillema for men is seperating the social world with the work world. Many women want the chivelry connected to dating or marriage but in the work environment men must abandon their innate or taught views towards women.

I have had to change my outlook on women in the last 10 years. I have seen women do almost any job men can do, and make sure I stick up for them when they need an advocate. I know it’s been a hard road for women, but outside of the real male knuckleheads, many guys are genuinely trying to have newer balanced view of women, while still being men. Most importantly though, although this modern era has caused a sometimes unbalanced perspective on the sexes, we are Christian men and women, and that is where we should differ from the world in how we interact. Peace.

Spoken from the heart. thank you.

 

[Debora123]

I very much hope that you are right. But I really don’t see myself having any luck with a protestant either, because depending on the branch he follows, he could very well think along the same lines as those few posters on here.

None of the Catholic men I know are like some of the few here. You’ll be perfectly fine.

 

[Debora123]

Actually the man is the head of the woman, and God is the head of Christ. Some arrogant men take that to the extreme, but there is a functional hiearchy.

You’re responding to a post from page #5 of a 30+ page thread. This issue has already been addressed and put to rest. Please see post # 129 here: forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=686267&page=9

And stick to the current posts and discussion. Thank you.

 

[Debora123]

I love men…I am a feminist. I love masculinity; I love feeling cared for and protected. I love being respected and cherished.

Thanks to all the men out there who love women, their femininity and their strength.

Thanks to all the men out there who are not afraid of their masculinity and can tap into their softer loving side without feeling inferior to women.

Agreed 100%. And I too will leave this thread, as it has also become an anti-women thread.

Thank you to The Bucket, AngryAtheist, VeritasLuxMae, and Crescentinus for your contributions and for protecting our dignity as human beings equal in greatness to all the rest of you.

“The woman came from a man’s rib. Not from his feet to be walked on. Not from his head to be superior. But from his side to be equal… under his arm to be protected… and next to his heart to be loved.”

 

[The_Bucket]

I can’t say I agree with some of the comments made by AA (though I suppose that makes sense since he’s an angry atheist and I’m a trying to be less angry Catholic) but I’ll gladly stand alongside the likes of Crescentius. Not trying to white-knight but I don’t think that’s really necessary since the women seem perfectly capable of addressing the errors espoused by a small but too vocal minority of clowns who’d like to take time in promoting words meant to speak doctrinal truths to certain past cultures and apply to today.

Quite frankly Leo XIII’s points about ensuring Christians husbands do not stomp on their wives or treat them like second-class citizens was downright progressive for his time and quite doctrinally accurate. Consider that in 1880 wives and women in general were indeed often considered as servants or worse. In good marriages for that time they were loved servants to be sure but subservient nonetheless.

Leo’s point was that women are companions to men as men are companions to women. His terminology in today’s society seems a bit harsh but upon further review it’s really just archaic diction that is at fault for any miscommunication. Partners would have been a better word but that’s neither here nor there.

Perhaps his personal view was not as well-developed or beautifully written as JPII’s, but reading the rest of that encyclical clues me in that he was very well aware of the sacred dignity of the institution and the individuals in marriage, the grave evils of divorce and the grave evils done to marriage in the past even by God’s first Chosen People and in Catholic states later on. Should have read all of it earlier but I’m you know, working.