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Catolico
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netmil(name removed by moderator):
you`re bad
Male Altar girls would be just plain silly.
you`re bad 
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paramedicgirl
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We used to have a very holy Franciscan priest, rest his soul, who always brought Communion to the sick. He invited parish members along, but only he gave the host and blessed them.
As it should be, since only the priest’s hands have been consecrated to touch the host.
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GodBlessJoanie
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Dr. Bombay:
I’ve left my altar-girl parish for one who only uses altar boy in the traditional cassocks. The reverence of this Church is heartening! This Church also has the tabernacle front and center, where the KING OF KINGS should be.
Interesting too… just as a side note… I went to a Rosary Congress last year and met with several young nuns. They said that the orders who wear the habit (as opposed to street clothes) are the ones who are florishing!
Interesting…
Blessings,
Joanie
You are so right! In the words of Fr. John Corapi “when you teach the wind, you reap the whirlwind…” and here we are.
I’ve left my altar-girl parish for one who only uses altar boy in the traditional cassocks. The reverence of this Church is heartening! This Church also has the tabernacle front and center, where the KING OF KINGS should be.
Interesting too… just as a side note… I went to a Rosary Congress last year and met with several young nuns. They said that the orders who wear the habit (as opposed to street clothes) are the ones who are florishing!
Interesting…
Blessings,
Joanie
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Freeway4321
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I think we need more. The lack of girl altar boys is astonishing… I mean, err, uhh…
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Dr.Bombay
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Yes, the lack of girl altar boys is a crisis. I suggest the USCCB appoint a commission to study the problem and make recommendations. Which will be submitted to the Vatican, vetted, returned to the USCCB, revised, re-submitted to the Vatican, gutted entirely, returned to the USCCB, new Commission appointed, revised draft submitted…
…maybe we’ll have an answer to this crisis by 2025?
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Freeway4321
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Dr. Bombay:
Things always work out for the best when the USCCB is on the job. I mean, err, uhh…slipping up alot tonight.
I laugh… yet it’s so true.
Things always work out for the best when the USCCB is on the job. I mean, err, uhh…slipping up alot tonight.
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PreVatII
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Those who see no problem with girls as acolytes during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, miss the point by a mile! One has to understand the mind set of young boys to fully understand what makes a boy tick. When he sees girls in the sanctuary and when he sees female EMHCs, a young boy no longer sees the priesthood and all that surrounds it as something uniquely male. When he sees, year after year, the feminization of the Faith, he no longer sees a unique role for himself.
Does anyone think that a young man walking into a Marine Corps recruiting station would ever think of signing up if the recruiters were female? Not hardly.
I’ve always chuckle when I hear women try to explain how boys and men think. Good luck. You just won’t be able to do it.----If we are ever to regain our pre-Vatican II numbers to the priesthood, we need to return the sanctuary to the priest and to male acolytes only! (I would also add, end the reign of the EMHCs.)
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MrS
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However, I think where this is the case, too many priests and deacons don’t make any of the home visits. Yet it is part of their job description!!!
Isn’t it the priest’s “job” to administer the sacraments? At Mass, it may take a little longer… why is that an “extraordinary” thing that requires EMHCs? I/we spend longer going to the home of a human for dinner, than I/we do going to visit the Lord.
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davy39
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Oh, boy! Another anti-altar girl thread. How many does this make? All I can say, is “No comment”.
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Jakub
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I’m also weary of repeating, please read;
adoremus.org/LiturgicaeInstaurationes.html
adoremus.org/InaestimabileDonum.html
1,994 years of tradition cannot be wrong…unless you are a modernist.
james
adoremus.org/LiturgicaeInstaurationes.html
adoremus.org/InaestimabileDonum.html
1,994 years of tradition cannot be wrong…unless you are a modernist.
james
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Philomeena
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Dr. Bombay:
I don’t think I have ever seen an EMHC -male or female-prance. Is this a form of liturgical dancing to which you refer???
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Boogie
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This used to happen at my parish (with my old pastor) and it was horrible. Wanna-be priestesses acting just as you describe. We had one male doing the same thing (for years.) Some even handed-out communion! Thankfully this has ceased with the coming of a new pastor.
When the new pastor came, some of the good servers even caught heck (initially) for kneeling during the consecration from the “liturgy committee!”
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Lenis
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Originally Posted by Dr. Bombay
*Because it began as an abuse and, after nearly two decades, Rome finally caved and approved them. Something that starts as a “thumb your nose at Rome” statement should not then be blessed by Rome. I understand why Rome did it, for the same reason they caved on Communion in the hand. But it still began as prideful, willful disobedience.
AMEN TO THE ABOVE STATEMENT - LENIS
*Because it began as an abuse and, after nearly two decades, Rome finally caved and approved them. Something that starts as a “thumb your nose at Rome” statement should not then be blessed by Rome. I understand why Rome did it, for the same reason they caved on Communion in the hand. But it still began as prideful, willful disobedience.
AMEN TO THE ABOVE STATEMENT - LENIS
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Friar_David_O.Carm
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This is something I was told by a rector of a seminary on why he is against female altar servers and I agree with it. This also goes for women doing readings.
The altar server was originally an ordained male. He was ordained to the office acolyte. Now only men may be ordained to this office. So they stoped ordaining acolytes and started to just appoint people to be altar servers.
Same goes for those who read the Epistle and the Old Testament (for you Latin Catholics) readings. This used to be done by ordained lectors. Yes I know some places still call them lectors but the office of lector is an ordained office. Those people reading who are called lectors are not really lectors.
So what we are doing now is having people serve in positions that used to be ordained positions.
IMHO, just another bluring of the lines between clergy and laity.
The altar server was originally an ordained male. He was ordained to the office acolyte. Now only men may be ordained to this office. So they stoped ordaining acolytes and started to just appoint people to be altar servers.
Same goes for those who read the Epistle and the Old Testament (for you Latin Catholics) readings. This used to be done by ordained lectors. Yes I know some places still call them lectors but the office of lector is an ordained office. Those people reading who are called lectors are not really lectors.
So what we are doing now is having people serve in positions that used to be ordained positions.
IMHO, just another bluring of the lines between clergy and laity.
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Elzee
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Well, I haven’t seen any prancing, but I have seen strutting. I returned recently to the parish/diocese where I grew up for a visit and my once, very orthodox and beautiful traditional church complete with marble floors and marble altar rails, stained glass windows, and the most beautiful crucifix I’ve yet to see in my life has gone stark-raving mad!!! Most of the EMHC’s are older women. They seem very proud of their new-found independence and EMHC stature (it took a few decades for this parish to ‘modernize’). They wear HUGE, shiny silver crosses around their necks that blind you when the sun hits them just right, and yes, strut around the sanctuary and behind the altar passing chalices and ciboriums back and forth as they try to decide who gets to distribute what. Apparently, from what I could tell from the pecking order, the Body of our Lord is more desirable to distribute than the Precious Blood of our Lord. It was a sight I never want to see again. The priest just stood by. I took all I had to sit through the rest of Mass given how much disrespect was taking place in the sanctuary.I don’t think I have ever seen an EMHC -male or female-prance. Is this a form of liturgical dancing to which you refer???
We need those prayers to St. Michael everyday now more than ever.
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kleary
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I too remember it very well. I used to train altar boys. I watched the liberal forces in the church who are for women’s ordination push for female altar servers. They started out as a liturgical abuse, even Pope John Paul II tried to correct the abuse, but it continued in spite of him. Then eventually the Vatican caved in to the demands of the liberals.
When the change happened, and the Vatican began to allow altar girls at the discretion of the local Ordinary I was told that I had to start training girls as well. I refused and resigned.
The reason, bottom line behind female altar servers is exactly what they are for- to get everyone accustomed to seeing females do something that previously only males were allowed to do in order to desensitize the people to women in the priesthood.
Of course, there never will be women priests, in order for that to happen the Pope would have to change doctrine, something the Holy Spirit will not allow and in fact the Holy Spirit would kill the Pope before he even tried to change such doctrine.
Like Mother Angelica said, “It is like a child who keeps crying for the cookie, ‘I WANNA COOKIE, I WANNA COOKIE!!!’ Seems just like a parent in this case, tired of the cries giving the child the cookie.”
Previously, serving at the altar was seen to be a way to get a child interested in the priesthood. Of course when I was an altar boy all of us wanted to be the priest. We had pride in ourselves as Altar Boys, an organization the little girls were not allowed into. There was comradery and pride in what we did, serving at the Altar of God.
Ken
Dr. Bombay:
When the change happened, and the Vatican began to allow altar girls at the discretion of the local Ordinary I was told that I had to start training girls as well. I refused and resigned.
The reason, bottom line behind female altar servers is exactly what they are for- to get everyone accustomed to seeing females do something that previously only males were allowed to do in order to desensitize the people to women in the priesthood.
Of course, there never will be women priests, in order for that to happen the Pope would have to change doctrine, something the Holy Spirit will not allow and in fact the Holy Spirit would kill the Pope before he even tried to change such doctrine.
Like Mother Angelica said, “It is like a child who keeps crying for the cookie, ‘I WANNA COOKIE, I WANNA COOKIE!!!’ Seems just like a parent in this case, tired of the cries giving the child the cookie.”
Previously, serving at the altar was seen to be a way to get a child interested in the priesthood. Of course when I was an altar boy all of us wanted to be the priest. We had pride in ourselves as Altar Boys, an organization the little girls were not allowed into. There was comradery and pride in what we did, serving at the Altar of God.
Ken
Dr. Bombay:
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kleary
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Problem again is that it was started in defiance, continued in disobedience, and the people behind it will not stop at being a lay reader or “Eucharistic Minister” (SIC). “Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion”]. They want the priesthood, at least the proponents of female altar servers do. The small children, God knows what their parents tell them, if they even know that a woman can never be a priest. Behind the agenda is that now, one area of recruitment for the priesthood, a major one is now compromised. Young men will no longer want to serve at the altar because girls do it also.
If the posts like mine and the other are for “nostalgia urges” then why is it that ROME FORBIDS women to serve at the altar in the Diocese of Rome? Is that Nastalgia? What about the E.D. indult communities in communion with Rome today who also forbid female altar servers, is that nostalgia? These proponents of female altar servers have designes on changing the Catholic faith into something NOT CATHOLIC.
Ken
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Dr.Bombay
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Pardon me. The correct word was “mince.” :tiphat:I don’t think I have ever seen an EMHC -male or female-prance. Is this a form of liturgical dancing to which you refer???
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Annunciata
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Small mindedness… My Granddaughter is an altar server and does a superb job as does her younger brother who serves w/ her.
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MrS
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I am not in favor of girl altar boys… and I have told I have a very big head
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