You were raised too near the Cascades and the Rockies; you are spoiled!
The Willis tower is the highest point in Illinois. So any “hill” one is talking about is smaller than a building… That is flat. In any place. I drive NW Illinois about every three months. Flat.You were raised too near the Cascades and the Rockies; you are spoiled!
Hilly is not the same as mountainous. The average peak in the Appalachians is about 3,000 ft. That does qualify as a mountain, even when it is situated too far south to be of much use to a skier. Likewise, Illinois does have heights that deserve to at least be called hills!
Actually the highest point in Illinois is Charles Mound in Jo Daviess County, just east of Dubuque, Iowa (1235 ft ) The highest natural point. Willis Tower is man-made:shrug: Comparing NWIllinois to the rest of the state, not flat.The Willis tower is the highest point in Illinois. So any “hill” one is talking about is smaller than a building… That is flat. In any place. I drive NW Illinois about every three months. Flat.
It’s got tornadoes. = flat.
TX is considered to be flat, but our Guadalupe Peak rises to some 8648’. That is higher than any peak east of the Mississippi.The Willis tower is the highest point in Illinois. So any “hill” one is talking about is smaller than a building… That is flat. In any place. I drive NW Illinois about every three months. Flat.
It’s got tornadoes. = flat.
Any one born and raised along the east coast where there are mountains or the west coast where there are mountains truly would say the entire Midwest is flat. Compared to those places, yes it is flat. However in Illinois, Iowa, and Wisconsin, we are talking hills, not mountains. Peace, brothers!!:tiphat:
The Willis Tower is 1,451 ft. tall! When I have to walk up a 600 ft. hill, I say that’s a hill! If the clear and immediate vertical rise is even 200-300 feet, it sure *feels *like a hill!! (Not a mountain, mind you, but a “hill”.)The Willis tower is the highest point in Illinois. So any “hill” one is talking about is smaller than a building… That is flat. In any place. I drive NW Illinois about every three months. Flat.
It’s got tornadoes. = flat.
Are you not from Indiana, then? I assumed you were raised there, based upon your forum name.I am an American (whatever that means now) I grew up in the NW Lived in Idaho, Washington, Montana. I currently reside in a part of the country that is horrid. I want out.
The Church here is amazing though. And it is nice to live in an area with a Catholic population that is rather large. The weather, the smoke, the semi trucks, the factories, the smell and the grim faced blue collar beaten down people are a tad bit much.
Waiting 2 weeks so that “Ed” can fix my satellite TV during football season is a little much as well.
Someday I will get back to God’s country. Until then. I hold my breath when I walk outside.
All these places are similar in height to Charles Mound in Jo Daviess County Illinois (1235 ft) You won’t hear any argument from ME that PA is not hilly!The Willis Tower is 1,451 ft. tall! When I have to walk up a 600 ft. hill, I say that’s a hill! If the clear and immediate vertical rise is even 200-300 feet, it sure *feels *like a hill!! (Not a mountain, mind you, but a “hill”.)
These are elevations of some of the “lesser” peaks and notable features in the Pennsylvania section of the Appalacians!
Pole Steeple - 1,250ft.
Cove Mountain - 1,378ft.
Peters Mountain - 1,377ft.
Table Rock - 1,275ft.
Shikellamy Rocks/Overlook - 1,370ft.
Second Mountain - 1,440ft.
East Rocks - 1.425ft
Sunset Rocks - 1,462ft
Walk up those, and tell me that it isn’t “hilly”!!
No, I am from Idaho. Looking to go back. Hate it here.
Then, respectfully, sir, I must insist you cease and desist any use of the term Hoosier, unless and until you have attained at least two years of residency in the state, with a demonstrated intention to adopt the Hoosier lifestyle completely, and begin your children’s college funds, to be used ONLY to send them to either Purdue University or Indiana University, or if circumstances necessitate, IUPUI. Any other use of the name Hoosier is strictly prohibited.No, I am from Idaho. Looking to go back. Hate it here.
I used to live in Fort Wayne, Indiana.No, I am from Idaho. Looking to go back. Hate it here.
Happily.The Willis Tower is 1,451 ft. tall! When I have to walk up a 600 ft. hill, I say that’s a hill! If the clear and immediate vertical rise is even 200-300 feet, it sure *feels *like a hill!! (Not a mountain, mind you, but a “hill”.)
These are elevations of some of the “lesser” peaks and notable features in the Pennsylvania section of the Appalacians!
Pole Steeple - 1,250ft.
Cove Mountain - 1,378ft.
Peters Mountain - 1,377ft.
Table Rock - 1,275ft.
Shikellamy Rocks/Overlook - 1,370ft.
Second Mountain - 1,440ft.
East Rocks - 1.425ft
Sunset Rocks - 1,462ft
Walk up those, and tell me that it isn’t “hilly”!!
But in Indiana nothing. I had to put on skiis and have my wife pull me and the kids around the block “waterski” style.Don’t get me wrong. Downhill skiing is a mountain sport. A four year old can walk up a 600 ft. hill. These things are all true.Happily.
You should note that that is Ft above sea level, not total height of the “hill” from “summit” to base.
Mt Borah. A day hike when I was 12. 12,668 Ft. Ascending Ft. 5900
Spent a lot of my youth hiking the hills to alpine lakes or just in search of virgin powder.
Boise, has foothills the tallest has a ski resort on it. about 7000 ft. Much lower is a foothill called table rock. The top is flat. It is about a 1000 ft vertical hike. It has a giant cross on top that lights up at night. Every Good Friday our 75 year old priest leads the youth groups and families up the climb carrrying a 50lb 10 foot cross. We do the stations of the cross. Families do this, including my children from about age 4 on up. This is a hike up a HILL a 4 year old can do.
600 ft? Please.
When we moved to this place (Indiana) we went to a state park called Turkey Run State Park.
It has some hiking trails. I knew I was not in Kansas anymore when the map did not have elevations in ft but rather in how many “steps” it was from the top of the ravine to the bottom.
The most difficult trail? About 200 “steps” Whatever that is.
Now I am an avid skier I did get to ski a couple old resorts out west. Sun Valley and the like around Christmas.
I hear tell there is a ski “resort” here. It is a pig farm that opens up a few days in the winter maybe 200 vertical. NOT KIDDING!! A pig farm!! Honestly I did not know they could stack pig manure that high.
You are making a mountain out of a mole hill…
Well, I’m 5’9" so they at least stack pig manure that highHappily.
You should note that that is Ft above sea level, not total height of the “hill” from “summit” to base.
Mt Borah. A day hike when I was 12. 12,668 Ft. Ascending Ft. 5900
Spent a lot of my youth hiking the hills to alpine lakes or just in search of virgin powder.
Boise, has foothills the tallest has a ski resort on it. about 7000 ft. Much lower is a foothill called table rock. The top is flat. It is about a 1000 ft vertical hike. It has a giant cross on top that lights up at night. Every Good Friday our 75 year old priest leads the youth groups and families up the climb carrrying a 50lb 10 foot cross. We do the stations of the cross. Families do this, including my children from about age 4 on up. This is a hike up a HILL a 4 year old can do.
600 ft? Please.
When we moved to this place (Indiana) we went to a state park called Turkey Run State Park.
It has some hiking trails. I knew I was not in Kansas anymore when the map did not have elevations in ft but rather in how many “steps” it was from the top of the ravine to the bottom.
The most difficult trail? About 200 “steps” Whatever that is.
Now I am an avid skier I did get to ski a couple old resorts out west. Sun Valley and the like around Christmas.
I hear tell there is a ski “resort” here. It is a pig farm that opens up a few days in the winter maybe 200 vertical. NOT KIDDING!! A pig farm!! Honestly I did not know they could stack pig manure that high.
Have you ever been to Chestnut ski resort near Dubuque, Iowa? Probably not your idea of a Rocky Mtn. resort, but it’ll do!
After this past winter, I could use some “theoretical winter” The real thing was a b***h!I do not climb or ski and never will, being too fond of my unbroken neck and limbs.
Therefore, the modest diagonality of Texas is good enough for me
I also appreciate not needing mountains of clothes during the winter months. At 27 N latitude, winter is really somewhat theoretical!
ICXC NIKA.
Come on down.After this past winter, I could use some “theoretical winter” The real thing was a b***h!