When Darth Vader yelled, "NNNNOOOOOO!"

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One of, if not the biggest problem with the prequels was George Lucas’ (apparent) belief that the audience would not be able to understand what a character was thinking or feeling unless the character explicitly stated it. The “NNNNNOOOOOOO!!!” bit just illustrates this perfectly.
That’s because Lucas is not really a proficient writer or director. He’s a great high-level ideas and world-building man, but when it gets into the nitty-gritty of putting that world-building and those ideas down into coherent plot and dialogue, he stumbles.

On the set of A New Hope, both Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford reportedly complained to Lucas about their lines, the former saying “people don’t talk like this!” and the latter snarking “you can type this (stuff), but you can’t say it.” Apparently even Lucas acknowledged it and thus why the last two films of the original trilogy were written by people more versed in writing, with better results.
 
That wasn’t Darth Vader. He didnt exist until episode IV. The prequels were fairy tales which have little connection to the next three.
At least they were better than the Christmas special…
 
That’s because Lucas is not really a proficient writer or director. He’s a great high-level ideas and world-building man, but when it gets into the nitty-gritty of putting that world-building and those ideas down into coherent plot and dialogue, he stumbles.
ITA. Interestingly, the Cartoon Network “Clone Wars” cartoon series, started out rather sappy and trite, with Anakin and his colleagues usually “winning” at the end of each episode, but eventually became much darker and more complex, and actually managed to add a lot of depth to the prequel era characters, even Darth Maul, though his return from the dead was pretty far-fetched. Certainly, they show how the Jedi Order, as well as the Senate, is revealed to have had a lot of internal problems and corruption, that helped bring about its eventual fall, even apart from Palpatine’s scheming.

The Anakin-Padme romance is made more realistic, such as introducing a former “close friend” of Padme and how Anakin reacts to him, for example. Although it’s never really clarified if Padme was actually in a romantic relationship with the guy, or they were just close friends and he had a crush on her, he does profess to love her. And it does make sense that Padme did have at least one romantic involvement before Anakin.

The show-only character, Asajj Ventress, goes from a one-note minion of Count Dooku, to a much greyer, interesting character over the course of the series.

And AFAIK, they managed to do this without outright contradicting the narrative of the movie, especially in how they explain why Ahsoka Tano, introduced as Anakin’s Padawan, is nowhere to be found in the Revenge of the Sith movie.

So yes, Lucas is a great world-builder, even though he’s not that great at writing realistic dialogue and romance.
 
I don’t know what you’re talking about. There was no episode 3. There are 4 Star Wars movies - 4, 5, 6, and 7. That’s all.

No more.

fingers in ears lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala

EDIT.

At least until 8 comes out.
 
That’s because Lucas is not really a proficient writer or director. He’s a great high-level ideas and world-building man, but when it gets into the nitty-gritty of putting that world-building and those ideas down into coherent plot and dialogue, he stumbles.

On the set of A New Hope, both Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford reportedly complained to Lucas about their lines, the former saying “people don’t talk like this!” and the latter snarking “you can type this (stuff), but you can’t say it.” Apparently even Lucas acknowledged it and thus why the last two films of the original trilogy were written by people more versed in writing, with better results.
FINALLY someone says it. 👍
The success of the first Star Wars film was in the TIMING of it’s release. It was at the right time and the right place. Without the special effects the first film could easily have been a made for TV movie. The plot was simplistic at best, the dialogue even worse.
Was it fun? Sure. The greatest sci fi of all time? Not even close.
 
Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith.
Huh?

What Star Wars Episode III?

There is only IV, V, VI and now VI

(yes the fact that it begins with a IV would seem to say there is earlier chapters …but that is called back story…not that there are actual movies)
 
He must have had a premonition of The Force Awakens.

Especially his unbelievably execrable grandson.

I can’t believe people fell for all that. Vade retro Satana. :signofcross:
 
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