When did Catholics shift this far towards the right/conservatism?

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I was saying that the BJU beard rule was rather similar: they don’t actually have anything against beards, but if hippies have beards, BJU has to have a rule against beards.
Are you suggesting that the school did not have a dress code prior to hippies?
I am not even sure why you are being so argumentative over this point. It’s not like what I am saying is particularly controversial, and it’s also not like Catholics have traditionally been supports of BJU.
Catholics, like Methodists are permitted to have opinions concerning all sorts of arguments. In regard to supporting BJU, I’m addressing your contentions, rather than taking a stance for or against BJU.
 
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100% of illegal aliens have violated the laws of this country.

How exactly can we trust someone to respect our laws when their first action in this country is a violation of the law?
They commit way more crime and many are in prison.

The survey that says they do not commit many crimes is only in regards to property crime, it’s not a fair reflection of the situation as it is.
 
Yeah, this, and a whole lot more. I’m not suggesting the OP is disingenuous, but it appears to me he wants the Catholic Church to fall in line with his socialist and left wing ideology.
 
Re the Bob Jones University beard issue, you really need to take this up on an Evangelical forum
 
The post to which I was originally responding was one which stated that some US conservatives feel compelled to be climate change deniers not because of any scientific reasons but because they regard climate science as being somehow a part of liberal culture
I am not against climate change, it may very well be real. I am against punishing the US and develped countries while allowing undeveloped countries to continue to spew out more and more CO2
 
I see that the thread will automatically close tomorrow (I am not sure why).
This is a great example as to why this forums failed. This has been a good thread but yet it is being closed just because the moderator want it closed. No reason just because. I hope I can find a catholic forum where the standards are objective and not subjective as they were here on CAF.
 
It wasn’t just some random quote from a BLM member that she described herself as a trained Marxist, it was one of the three co-founders of BLM. In fact, all three BLM co-founders describe themselves as trained Marxists or “Queer”.
Is queer now the same thing as being a Marxist - a trained one at that? You say that I have no idea what I am talking about, but I think that I know all too well what I am talking about. I read a lot about conservative American politics, and I can see only too clearly that the ideology represented by many posters on CAF is part of a culture of conservativism that began to gain traction in top-level US politics with the Goldwater campaign of 1964 and went fully mainstream with Reagan’s victory in 1980. Thanks in large part to the internet, this mainstream conservatism became infiltrated by more fringe movements such as the Tea Party, the Minutemen, and the Oath Keepers, culminating in the Donald Trump. Such conservative movements in America have historically been inextricably connected with conservative Protestantism, but more recently, they have attracted conservative Catholics, especially traditionalists.
Nelson Mandela’s issues have to do with his belief and acceptance of Communism.
Nelson Mandela was a member of the South African Communist Party as a relatively young man some 30 years or more before he became president of South Africa. By the time he became president, he had renounced communism. In any case, communism in Africa has a very different history to communism in Europe. To a large extent, African communism was part of the independence movement. It was also somewhat transactional and opportunistic, as the USSR was only too happy to pour its influence and resources into such countries.
Communism is one of the deadliest and satanic ideologies humanity has ever seen.
You seem to think that I am actually arguing in favour of communism. On the contrary, all I am saying is that being anti-communist doesn’t have to lead to supporting Donald Trump or even supporting the Republican Party. In my own country, the UK, our most socialist government ever, the Attlee government of 1945-51, and specifically our foreign secretary Ernest Bevin, played a crucial role in both the creation of NATO and Britain acquiring an independent nuclear deterrent.
 
Re the Bob Jones University beard issue, you really need to take this up on an Evangelical forum
I am not sure why you are making this into such a big issue. From what I have observed of your posting history, you seem to enjoy being argumentative.
it appears to me he wants the Catholic Church to fall in line with his socialist and left wing ideology.
I am really not very left-wing. I suppose I was technically a socialist insofar as I occasionally voted for a party whose constitution formerly included a commitment to common ownership, but since the revision of Clause IV, there is no real socialist party in the UK anyway. I would say that I am a centrist.
100% of illegal aliens have violated the laws of this country.
Is that so? I don’t know enough about US law. In the UK, it is not necessarily illegal to enter the country in a manner that would normally be regarded as unlawful. If you wish to seek asylum, you are entitled to enter the UK by whatever means possible provided you present yourself to the authorities at the earliest possible opportunity to request asylum. If you manage to get into the UK in a dinghy, in the hold of a plane, in a lorry, etc, and immediately flag down a police officer or similar to request asylum, you will not be charged with a crime. I would be surprised if the US did not have a similar system.
Are you suggesting that the school did not have a dress code prior to hippies?
I do not have an exhaustive knowledge of the history of dress codes at BJU. I was merely providing a further example, an analogy. It was not intended to be something to be picked over as if we were undergoing a cross-examination in court. I am not really sure what your agenda is, but I am sure that you have one.
 
I do not have an exhaustive knowledge of the history of dress codes at BJU. I was merely providing a further example, an analogy. It was not intended to be something to be picked over as if we were undergoing a cross-examination in court. I am not really sure what your agenda is, but I am sure that you have one.
I was looking for clarification, regarding your knowledge of the issue you raised, and you have provided it with this post. Thank you.
 
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Indeed. That larger population, combined with having more space, more resources, and a bigger economy, means that the United States could quite easily absorb more immigrants. Furthermore, the United States is a country built on immigration. Immigration does not have to be a drain on resources, and resources are not finite.
I 100% support immigration. My grandmother in fact was an immigrant.

Immigration can benefit both the person who’s immigrating and the country as a whole.

But I wouldn’t necessarily extend that to say that immigration is never a drain on resources.

The people who come to the United States today illegally tend to be less likely to assimilate, as they tend to be less likely to be literate and less likely to have job skills. I don’t doubt that there are plenty of jobs for STEM scholars, but there are only so many jobs for housekeepers and janitors, and it doesn’t seem right to me for Americans to have to compete for these jobs with those here illegally.
 
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Re the Bob Jones University beard issue, you really need to take this up on an Evangelical forum
I am not sure why you are making this into such a big issue. From what I have observed of your posting history, you seem to enjoy being argumentative.
LOL four days a member of the forum and already with the ad homonims!

Man, I’m gonna miss this forum when it’s gone. 🤣🤣🤣

See ya on the flip side 🙂
 
LOL four days a member of the forum and already with the ad homonims!
That’s not how you spell ad hominem and that’s not even what it means. It is not ad hominem to point out that you have a particularly snarky, abrasive tone, since one of the problems I have with CAF is the snarky, abrasive tone that is adopted by so many people on here.
 
Well I suppose outside of the original celtic tribes, Roman, Anglo-Saxon, Viking, and Norman invasions, England was culturally founded on monarchism. And with so many other countries that had a “supreme ruler”, it made digesting socialism and communism so much easier. The people were already giving up their rights for centuries.
 
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