When did Michael and co drive Lucifer and co from Heaven?

[Blue_Horizon]

The only scriptural reference to Michael the archangel and his angels battling Satan and his angels is in the book of Revelation. The book of Revelation is an eschatalogical book and as such is prone to many different interpretations.

Many of the early church fathers (post the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD) thought of the book as a future scenario of eschatology revolving around a future anti-christ prior to the return of Jesus Christ and the resurrection of the saints.

Thus, any theories on this battle between angels should be prioritized from an interpretation of the book of Revelation and from the interpretations of the early church fathers regarding this scriptural passage.

God’s peace

micah

Which is exactly what Aquinas and other scholastic theologians did and which Treatises are the basis of today’s received Catholic tradition as being discussed here .

Lets remind ourselves we have a freedom that Protestants do not have re Scripture. Catholic tradition can not only affirm truths of faith that are not in Scripture (e.g. the Assumption) but it can also tell us the correct reading/interpretation of Scripture. Often it happens the “obvious” interpretation is plain “wrong” or needs to be harmonised with other truths of faith.

 

[Blue_Horizon]

Bump.

Crimson, as indicated above Catholic understanding hasd progressed well beyond the vague references in Scripture and the fables of childhood to a tight and coherent theology of angels. It largely happend in the 1100-1300s. This sensus fidelium is well expressed and summarised in the writings of Thomas Aquinas (Summa Theoligica and a little in Summa Contra Gentiles). This is one reason why he has the title “Angelic Doctor.”

In this thread I was hoping to hear what today’s sensus fidelium has to say on points that do not seem to have been discussed in past times. Given above misunderstandings of our inherited Catholic legacy it is looking like I should have put the question in a more philosophical part of the forum perhaps .