When do liturgical changes go into effect?

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NicPais83 said:
What does it mean by Order of Mass I and Order of Mass II?
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Not entirely sure. Perhaps Order of Mass with congregation vs. Order of Mass w/o congregation?

Or it could mean the Order of Mass (Introductory Rite + Liturgy of the Word) vs. Order of Mass (Liturgy of the Eucharist + Dismissal).
 
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This may not be the right place, but here it goes.
Three Churches in CO, do not sing the Sunday Psalm for the day. The choir sings a different one every time. Our Holy Mother Church guides us to combine all the Liturgy to guide us in the readings and Gospel for that day. I asked two priests & they both said it is too hard or it is easier for the choir to sing others. That is not a acceptable answer since other complicated Psalms are sung,. I responded " does the Church allow this ?" they both responded “yes, it is ok”. I do not feel comfortable wth that answer. Please let me know . If it is not allowed, how would I approach the two priests of two different parishes to let them know the Truth ?
I hope I do not have to go thru this Thread; because I do not know how to use it and I have limited time at library, & gets vry frustrating. God’s peace & joy lupe
 
Lupe_Hernandez said:
Hello , this is my first time to ask ??.. 😉 🙂 :thumbsup
This may not be the right place, but here it goes.
Three Churches in CO, do not sing the Sunday Psalm for the day. The choir sings a different one every time. Our Holy Mother Church guides us to combine all the Liturgy to guide us in the readings and Gospel for that day. I asked two priests & they both said it is too hard or it is easier for the choir to sing others. That is not a acceptable answer since other complicated Psalms are sung,. I responded " does the Church allow this ?" they both responded “yes, it is ok”. I do not feel comfortable wth that answer. Please let me know . If it is not allowed, how would I approach the two priests of two different parishes to let them know the Truth ?
I hope I do not have to go thru this Thread; because I do not know how to use it and I have limited time at library, & gets vry frustrating. God’s peace & joy lupe Hernandez
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Lupe_Hernandez said:
[Hello , this is my first time to ask ??.. 😉 🙂 :thumbsup
This may not be the right place, but here it goes.
Three Churches in CO, do not sing the Sunday Psalm for the day. The choir sings a different one every time. Our Holy Mother Church guides us to combine all the Liturgy to guide us in the readings and Gospel for that day. I asked two priests & they both said it is too hard or it is easier for the choir to sing others. That is not a acceptable answer since other complicated Psalms are sung,. I responded " does the Church allow this ?" they both responded “yes, it is ok”. I do not feel comfortable wth that answer. Please let me know . If it is not allowed, how would I approach the two priests of two different parishes to let them know the Truth ?
I hope I do not have to go thru this Thread; because I do not know how to use it and I have limited time at library, & gets vry frustrating. God’s peace & joy lupe
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From what I understand, there are seasonal psalms that may be sung. This is what the GIRM says:
In the dioceses of the United States of America, the following may also be sung in place of the Psalm assigned in the Lectionary for Mass: either the proper or seasonal antiphon and Psalm from the Lectionary, as found either in the Roman Gradual or Simple Gradual or in another musical setting; or an antiphon and Psalm from another collection of the psalms and antiphons, including psalms arranged in metrical form, providing that they have been approved by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops or the Diocesan Bishop
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. Songs or hymns may not be used in place of the responsorial Psalm.

Obviously, I am not privvy as to whether or not any of this will change in the near future. Nor do am I aware of adaptations that other national conferences have made to the GIRM. All I can speak to is what the USCCB does.

I do hope that there will be uniformity some day and that a sense of universality will be restored. As I have stated on several occasions, I live along the Texan-Mexican border. When faithful from Mexico come to our side for Mass, they throw our posture off because they stand when we kneel and so forth. Conversely, when we go to their side for Mass, we kneel when they stand. It makes it a little confusing, to say the least, especially if neither of us are really aware of the postures for the country we’re visiting.

I will say one thing about the Mexican Roman Missal, though. It doesn’t seem to have very many problems as far as the translation from the Latin is concerned. The prayers match up a lot better in Spanish than English.
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Phemie said:
Having been a military spouse for over 20 years and attended Mess dinners I’ve raised many a glass of port to Her Majesty, but I’ve never prayed for her by name in the General Intecessions.

We rarely mention anyone specific, praying instead for world leaders. We might pray for wisdom for our leaders when a specific issue comes up in parliament.
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I don’t believe that proper names are used in the prayer for those in public office:

Cel: Let us pray for those who serve us in public office, that God may guide their minds and hearts, so that all men may live in true peace and freedom. Let us kneel. Let us stand.
Almighty and eternal God, you know the longings of men’s hearts and you protect their rights. In your goodness watch over those in authority, so that people everywhere may enjoy religious freedom, security, and peace. We ask this through Christ our Lord.

All: Amen.
 
As was posted before, Cardinal Arinze has been giving signals that this process is about at its end.

The committee will meet again in September of this year and I would foresee that we may have an approval by then or shortly their after.

Just a prediction: I foresee the translation be approved for use by Advent of 2008. Those bishops who wish to implement them immediately will be able to. However, more logically, I would see most diocese implementing the changes over a year, perhaps with a drop dead date of Advent 2009. While the translation may be done by Advent 2008, the missals need to be manufactured, bound and sent. You can bet, of course, that there will be a backlog of orders.

So, to recap. Translations ready for use by Advent 2008 but not required to be used until Advent of 2009. Again, only a prediction.
 
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