When Rahm's Temper Made a Comeback

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Of course, but the difference a voucher makes can enable someone to afford it. For example, if tuition is $8,000 and a voucher is $4,000, then the family only has to figure out the other $4,000. There is no leaping involved…just simple math and budgeting.
Lab School tuition is $24,000.
 
Exactly. I don’t think Beau has had to do a less affluent budget in a long time, so he has no clue as to how much a voucher would help normal folk. There are plenty of good, private schools in the $8-10k range (even less) and there are partial scholarships. For example my parish assists parishioners in tuition costs. It’s not enough for our family to afford the modest tuition of $6k per kid, but it helps many who can budget it.

In the current economy, I’m making 1/2 of what I used to. I’m at the same income I was in 1992. I’m lucky we are able to keep our home.
 
It makes me sad that in less than one month this man is going to be my mayor 😦
 
Exactly. I don’t think Beau has had to do a less affluent budget in a long time, so he has no clue as to how much a voucher would help normal folk.
Let’s de-personalize this, OK?

We were talking about the Lab School so deal with Lab tuition. A voucher won’t get a person in there. As the conservatives say, a life of saving and planning surely should buy you something to which others are not automatically entitled.
 
It makes me sad that in less than one month this man is going to be my mayor 😦
Who’s your alternative, if you’ve thought of one in your time of sorrow?

If you can’t name one perhaps your sadness is misplaced.

And, I guess you know what kind of schools were attended by the kids of Christie, Giuliani and the previous mayor of this great city.
 
Let’s de-personalize this, OK?

We were talking about the Lab School so deal with Lab tuition. A voucher won’t get a person in there. As the conservatives say, a life of saving and planning surely should buy you something to which others are not automatically entitled.
You have been talking about the Lab School. Everyone else has been talking about vouchers and private schools, in general. If you had any knowledge of what ordinary folks are dealing with, you might understand.

I don’t think my kids are entitled to private school. I just believe a voucher system would help a lot of people and be a better use of funds. You, on the other hand, support keeping kids in failing schools. Aren’t you the compassionate one.

I won’t even touch the elitist quote you are attributing to conservatives. It sounds more like something you and Emanual subscribe to.
 
I don’t think my kids are entitled to private school. I just believe a voucher system would help a lot of people and be a better use of funds. You, on the other hand, support keeping kids in failing schools. Aren’t you the compassionate one.
No, I am the realistic one. Just like government funding of religious schools seems a good idea on the surface, so does vouchers. I am the one who realizes that vouchers are not an unalloyed boon to public education.

I am not ready to make sure that there is a permanent educational underclass. Call that elitist if you like.
 
Who’s your alternative, if you’ve thought of one in your time of sorrow?

If you can’t name one perhaps your sadness is misplaced.

And, I guess you know what kind of schools were attended by the kids of Christie, Giuliani and the previous mayor of this great city.
I’m going to be going to college in Chicago in a month, so my alternative would be my current mayor, whom I happen to like.

I don’t care what schools parents decide to send their kids to. I’m blessed to have gone to Catholic school all my life. I personally think all parents should have the right to decide where to send their kids. What the educational system needs is competition, something government schools really don’t have.

I said what I did in my previous post not because of where Mayor Emanuel sends his kids to learn, but because I, as a libertarian Republican, disagree with the mayor’s policies.
 
No, I am the realistic one. Just like government funding of religious schools seems a good idea on the surface, so does vouchers. I am the one who realizes that vouchers are not an unalloyed boon to public education.

I am not ready to make sure that there is a permanent educational underclass. Call that elitist if you like.
I will, because your efforts against vouchers are exactly what maintains a permanent educational underclass. However, if you prefer to take the “life of savings and planning” approach, I understand. I’ll pass your caring attitude on to the struggling families whose kids are suffering today in failing schools.
 
I don’t know, I don’t care and it has no relevance to the topic at hand
You stated that there is a permanent educational underclass in the Chicago public schools.

Actually, the First Lady is not the best example, since she attended a magnet high school. Think of Michael Clarke Duncan or Jennifer Hudson. Both attended Dunbar High, a vocational school in the inner city. Permanent educational underclass? There are problems in the school system but there also is some egalitarianism.

A voucher system would definitely make the worst schools worser.
 
A voucher system would definitely make the worst schools worser.
The question is, would it get the students who want an education out of those schools.

If so, then do it. Get those children away from the children who don’t care and show bad behavior and then work on a way to get those children to care and behave better.
 
What the educational system needs is competition, something government schools really don’t have.
I believe you are unfamiliar with the schools within the Chicago Public School system. Check out things when you get here.
I said what I did in my previous post not because of where Mayor Emanuel sends his kids to learn, but because I, as a libertarian Republican, disagree with the mayor’s policies.
Then you should eschew college in a city where you find the chief executive so disagreeable. After all, you probably will run into a number of public school graduates in any Chicago college, whether the college is Catholic or not.
 
I believe you are unfamiliar with the schools within the Chicago Public School system. Check out things when you get here.

Then you should eschew college in a city where you find the chief executive so disagreeable. After all, you probably will run into a number of public school graduates in any Chicago college, whether the college is Catholic or not.
I will be in Chicago visiting my daughter next week. I would recommend he follow the same standards I do when in Chicago. . I stay out of the parts of town where the majority of Chicago public school graduates live.
 
I’ve never seen anyone suggest a voucher program that would cover a $20k tuition.

ucls.uchicago.edu/admission/tuition/index.aspx
Both the question of the voucher/tuition amounts and the isolated school that keeps being brought up have been answered, but I will add this…

As part of the stimulus packages, the government offered an $7,500 tax credit to first-time homebuyers. I don’t know of any houses that were available for $7,500, so I don’t see how it helped people buy their first home. :rolleyes: 🤷
 
I will be in Chicago visiting my daughter next week. I would recommend he follow the same standards I do when in Chicago. . I stay out of the parts of town where the majority of Chicago public school graduates live.
That’s verily impossible and certainly elitist. I guess the mayor went to public school, too.

Your daughter and anyone else visiting or studying in Chicago would cheat themselves out of a learning, noteworthy experience by not visiting all parts of the city. I would certainly volunteer as a tour guide. Much of education takes part outside the classroom.
I don’t know of any houses that were available for $7,500, so I don’t see how it helped people buy their first home.
I do.

And you must admit that far more people pay the purchase price for their home in installments than pay for private schooling in the same manner.
 
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