When will Protestantism dissapear?

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And triumphalism is rampant here. It reminds me of the pharisee in the parable, who prayed,“Lord, I thank you that I am not like this publican!” Lots of people on this site sound like,“Lord, I thank you that I am not as this Protestant here. I’m a CATHOLIC!”
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That’s *ROMAN *CATHOLIC to you! 😉 Get it right now.

I’m just kidding there. :whacky:

I have many Protestant friends, and they are very friendly and what I would consider “Christian” in behavior. However, I have trouble with certain beliefs like Once Saved Always Saved (baptist, anabaptist, fundamentalists, etc.), imputed righteousness (rather than an actual rigtheousness), faith alone in justification (separate from love and charity), etc.

My sister and mom are both Protestants (one is e-free and the other is Lutheran). And sometimes I get sick and frustrated when they blame the Church for sex abuse scandals, not allowing contraception, being too ceremonial, not reaching out to the youth enough, etc.

So, I suppose that I really want the spirit and beliefs of Protestantism to go away, but the Protestants to become historical Christians. Ideally I’d like them to become Catholics, but if they decide to become Orthodox, Copts or Assyrians–that is fine, too.

The one thing that really gets me is that many of my Protestant friends say that I’m Catholic but not Christian because I haven’t really personally accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as my Savior. If I did, they say, I would no longer be Catholic. I just can’t stand this, especially in light of the early Church, which is more Catholic than Protestant in its beliefs. 🙂

I’m really interested: why do intelligent evangelical Christians claim that Catholics have historically departed from the truth faith, but at the same time, these evangelical Christians can’t show their Protestant theology in the works of the early Church? Why do they blame Purgatory and the Immaculate Conception as papal inventions, when at the same time sola fide, sola scriptura and “OSAS” were not present in the early Church? It blows my mind, and I don’t think I’ll ever understand it. 🤓
 
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Madaglan:
The one thing that really gets me is that many of my Protestant friends say that I’m Catholic but not Christian because I haven’t really personally accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as my Savior. If I did, they say, I would no longer be Catholic. I just can’t stand this, especially in light of the early Church, which is more Catholic than Protestant in its beliefs. 🙂
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I can sympathize with you to a degree. I’m the only Catholic in a family of Baptists. No one gives me any grief, however, though my grandfather will sometimes get a troubled look on his face and ask me a question, prefaced or followed by, “Now I know that YOU’RE saved…” I think the problem *sometimes *is that when we talk to Protestants and they to us, we don’t hear each other. Also, I value many of the things that my upbringing in the Baptist faith vested in me, though I could never be anything, but a
Catholic. I also cannot bring myself to believe that my beloved grandparents, who set my feet on the path of faith in Christ, are condemned out of hand because they do not formally belong to the Catholic Church. As for when Protestantism disappears, I think it won’t happen until Our Lord comes, as from the beginning, people have dissented and protested against the Church (Gnostics, Arians, Donatists, etc.).
 
I think it more interesting to think about when religions like Mormonism and Jehovah’s Witnesses fade. Just seems more realisitic to me…
 
Eventually they will fade - even if that means it will be at the end of time.

There is one Body - there must also be one Church…

One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic! 😉
 
When I was baptized in the protestant church, I was asked if I beleive “Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God” --The rock that the church is built on. Protestantism will never disappear, because Jesus promised that the gates of hell will not prevail against it.

“To the law, and to the testimony, if they speak not according to this Word, it is becasue there is no light in them” Isaiah 8:20
 
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Madaglan:
How many more years do you give Protestantism before it essentially collapses, vanishes from the world (save a crazed intellectual here and there)? It took a few hundred years for Arianism to dissapear, and just a few less for Cathars to fade away. The Montanists lasted a few centuries, before the last remnants were restored to the Church (by St. Augustine if I remember correctly). Gnosticism lasted for a long while in the West before being controled.

Any prophesies on the fall of Protestantism are most welcome 😃
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It will not fall I believe. It may change into other various forms, but it will not fall. We still have Egyptian god/godess followers in the world. That civilization has changed much over the thousands of years, however the ancient beliefs are still being practiced today.

So, with Christianity the dominant force in the world that it is, I cannot see it faltering anytime soon.

Peace…
 
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herry:
When I was baptized in the protestant church, I was asked if I beleive “Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God” --The rock that the church is built on. Protestantism will never disappear, because Jesus promised that the gates of hell will not prevail against it.

“To the law, and to the testimony, if they speak not according to this Word, it is becasue there is no light in them” Isaiah 8:20
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I think you have got it all wrong. The rock the Church was built on was Peter. The gates of hell will not prevail against it, is refering to the Catholic Church not Protestantism.
 
On my way:
I think you have got it all wrong. The rock the Church was built on was Peter. The gates of hell will not prevail against it, is refering to the Catholic Church not Protestantism.
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**Hi On My Way, 🙂 **
I don’t wish to put words in herry’s ‘mouth’, but I believe he probably did not mean to say that the gates of hell wouldn’t prevail against Protestantism, per se, (which infered that the Protestant Church was that started by Jesus), but to say that the gates of hell would not prevail against Christianity (to which, Protestantism is a part).
I apologise if I mis-interpretted herry’s meaning.
To my own thoughts…
Trinitarian Protestantism is much less of a concern than those Protestants who don’t believe in the Trinity; and those who don’t follow Christianity are the biggest concern of all…
Peace and love to all 🙂
 
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byzmelkite:
I believe a Pope said, can’t remember which one, “error has no rights.” Protestantism is the cause of most of the evils of modern society. Whatever is true in Protestantism is already found in the Catholic Church. One of the greatest things that could happen to mankind would be the disappearance of protestantism through mass conversion back to Christ’s one true Church.
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Judge not, lest ye be judged. Sound familiar??? Your time would be better spent deepening your own faith rather than knocking that of others.

Amie
 
However long it takes to contracept themselves into non-relevance. It started in the 1930’s and it will take a while for its effects to show.
 
Oh gosh!
I voted the last one! It made me giggle and it seemed correct according to me. But truly you never know! But God does and thats good enough for me.
 
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BeluvdLily:
Judge not, lest ye be judged. Sound familiar??? Your time would be better spent deepening your own faith rather than knocking that of others.

Amie
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Amen!!
 
*Judge not, lest ye be judged. Sound familiar??? Your time would be better spent deepening your own faith rather than knocking that of others.

Amie*

I don’t think that was knocking. In fact it’s probably true about the evils of modern society. It’s just an observation/opinion. Don’t knock opinions, miss. I don’t think he judged anyone, just their ideas.
 
lexorandi said:
Judge not, lest ye be judged. Sound familiar??? Your time would be better spent deepening your own faith rather than knocking that of others.

Amie

I don’t think that was knocking. In fact it’s probably true about the evils of modern society. It’s just an observation/opinion. Don’t knock opinions, miss. I don’t think he judged anyone, just their ideas.
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To me, saying that Protestantism is the cause of most of the evil of modern society is nonsensical. That is my personal opinion. And attributing the evils of society to any one source to me qualifies as knocking it. Just as you have a right to disagree with me, I have a right to disagree with the original statement.

I also don’t know where you are coming from with the Miss. As far as I can tell from your profile I have a good twelve years on you and am married. Not a miss.
 
Sorry didn’t mean to offend anyone. These forums are vicious. I was just trying to be polite with the “miss”. I take it back. 😛
 
Dont know, dont care.

As long as they arent spreading anti catholic bile, I hope they flourish in bringing non Christians into the faith.

It seems the Protestants do a better job at prostelyzing than Catholics, and then the Catholics do a better job at arguing the True Faith and converting Protestants. Better to be a Protestant than a non Christian at all.
 
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ShroudMan:
It seems the Protestants do a better job at prostelyzing than Catholics, and then the Catholics do a better job at arguing the True Faith and converting Protestants. Better to be a Protestant than a non Christian at all.
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Good point. That does seem to happen a lot, doesn’t it? But then the Catholic Church has been growing fast for a while now. In any case, I hope that by the end we can reach most of the world with the fullness of truth in the Catholic Church. 👍
 
“Error has no rights” ???

Absolutely incredible.

There’s another saying, apt, in this setting:
“Ideas have consequences.”

Think of what this statement means: Error has no rights.

Hmmm. Isn’t that the thought pattern of all theocracies?
Of secular worldviews? [watch for “hate speech”
legislation to try to ban Christian teaching in the public
square. I mean, from that point of view, Christianity is
an error that has no rights, right?]

“Truth is that which conforms with reality.”

Now there’s a statement I can live with.

Error has no rights scares me witless.

I hope whichever pope said that say that] I hope he wasn’t speaking
*ex cathedra. :rolleyes: *

reen12
 
God’s detractors will never perish here on earth until the second coming.

I think as immorality increases the protestantism increases.

+divorce = +protestants
+stem cell research = +protestantism
+abortion = +protestantism
  • same sex marriages = + protestantism
(+) means increase

Let’s pray for the attacker of the Catholic Church. May God have mercy on them.
 
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