When your car gets attacked by a mob of leftists do this

[Dr_Meinheimer]

Do you also blame women for their own rapes if they go back intoxicated to a man’s house with him?

 

[Hume]

Do you also blame women for their own rapes if they go back intoxicated to a man’s house with him?

I hold the rational and legally established view that anyone participating in negligent behavior increases their probability of an unfortunate event and thereby, as a statement of fact, shoulders a portion of that blame.

Events where a “sweet, innocent babe in the woods” is suddenly and seemingly randomly attacked by a “big, bad, black wolf” is largely a children’s story.

As said above;

Well, in the real world where things can’t usually be over-simplified to the point of fallacy into one of two hyper-narrow ideological camps…

…again, this is just the real world I’m describing…

…we run into this situation were the blame for complex problems is virtually never the property of one sole party.

Like the woman who shot her husband. She planned it out and straight-up murdered him. 100% she’s to blame, right?
Not if you factor the years of emotional and physical abuse the man put her through, often laced with enslaving promises of “if you ever leave me, I’ll kill you” or something like that.

The only people I know of that still credibly believe in black-and-white, “blame goes here and not here”, radically oversimplified explanations are children.

Children .

When one sees a mob, drive away from it it. If they decide to go through it, they assume ownership of some of the fault of anything that can potentially happen with unruly mobs. This is the educated, adult perspective.

And hey, I’m smart enough to know that there are 1% situations that can’t be avoided. The 1% doesn’t condemn the other 99%.

I’m also smart enough to know that when something bad happens, people usually omit the parts of the story that might make them seem like they could share a little of the fault-pie. “I was just a sweet little babe in the woods and this big, bad wolf came up!”
Sure…

 

[JanR]

A woman doesn’t rape herself. Particularly when she is intoxicated and vulnerable, and not in a position to defend herself, a man taking advantage of her is especially despicable, and he needs to be held responsible for his actions.

Blaming the victim just lets criminals off the hook. It’s an all-too-convenient cop-out and excuse to avoid accountability.

And the legal attitude about it has been wrong for a very long time. I feel it discriminates unfairly against women. Somehow, it’s easier and more convenient for society to govern the behavior of women than of men. Especially because the “boys will be boys” mindset has made wrongful male behavior acceptable.

 

[Cathoholic]

Hume . . . .

Well, in the real world where things can’t usually be over-simplified to the point of fallacy into one of two hyper-narrow ideological camps…

…again, this is just the real world I’m describing…

…we run into this situation were the blame for complex problems is virtually never the property of one sole party.

You are wrong here Hume.

This is totally the perpetrators faults.

Not the victim and her baby daughter.

 

[Cathoholic]

Events where a “sweet, innocent babe in the woods” is suddenly and seemingly randomly attacked by a “big, bad, black wolf” is largely a children’s story.

Where are you getting this from Hume?

 

[Hume]

A woman doesn’t rape herself. Particularly when she is intoxicated and vulnerable, and not in a position to defend herself, a man taking advantage of her is especially despicable, and he needs to be held responsible for his actions.

Completely agree.

I also agree that the girl that…

1. goes to the frat party without a cadre of friends with the age-old agreement “we all showed together, we all leave together” (and that’s not just a “girl” rule. Me and the fellas abided by the same)
2. proceeds to get intoxicated in a house full of college-age boys she either doesn’t or barely knows

…needs to have her head examined.

“I walked into the lion preserve with raw cutlets dangling from my belt and what would you know? I got attacked!”

It saddens me to see how uncommon common sense has become.

 

[Theo520]

“I walked into the lion preserve with raw cutlets dangling from my belt …

Analogy fail
Driving legally on the interstate is not going into “the lion preserve”, and assuming you don’t have a big TRUMP sign in your window, no cutlets are dangling.

The only analogy that might work for you is, ‘walking into CHAZ wearing a MAGA hat and confederate flag as a cape.’

But that didn’t happen, people were just driving doing their normal and legal business, they weren’t teasing lions in the preserve’

 

[WingedHussar]

Besides, since when did surrendering the streets to thugs become a sign of civilization? If anything, it heralds the breakdown of order, the maintenance of which is the sole justification for the state.