Where can I learn more about the sacrificial reality of the Mass?

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I have to admit, although I view myself as quite knowledgeable in the Faith, there are a few major things that I am lacking. One is that I have never really been taught much about how the Holy Mass is a Sacrifice and how it is a re-presentation of the Crucifixion of Jesus at Calvary.

I know there is some quote by St. Padre Pio along the line of “priests are the butchers of Jesus during the Mass.” Something seems quite powerful about this, but I don’t understand it fully.

I have found myself crying at Mass during the Consecration, even before I really understood what the Eucharist was. This comes from my love for God, and my desire for Him in the Eucharist. I want to more fully understand the sacrificial reality of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.
 
I am not sure I am fully qualified to give you an adequate answer but I have many of the same questions that have not been fully answered, I will follow this thread with interest.

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This is an excellent question, funny thing is that I too was wondering the same exact thing. Somebody please, enlighten us!
 
I have to admit, although I view myself as quite knowledgeable in the Faith, there are a few major things that I am lacking. One is that I have never really been taught much about how the Holy Mass is a Sacrifice and how it is a re-presentation of the Crucifixion of Jesus at Calvary.
Let us see if I could say it right. Just correct me if I get unquestionably wrong.

Firstly, I don’t think the Holy Mass is a re-presentation of the Crucifixion of Jesus at Calvary. For to say that it is a re-presentation would imply a “repetition” of what had been done before. It is not like that . There is no repetition of a past event there.

The sacrifice that Christ did in calvary is the same sacrifice done in the Holy Mass. The “explosion” , so to speak, that exploded about 2,000 years ago in calvary is one and the same “explosion” that we hear and feel and witness during the Holy Mass. The sacrifice was not limited by time and space. It reaches to our place and time through the Holy Mass.

That is why, the Holy Mass is in fact a sacrifice of Christ.
 
I have to admit, although I view myself as quite knowledgeable in the Faith, there are a few major things that I am lacking. One is that I have never really been taught much about how the Holy Mass is a Sacrifice and how it is a re-presentation of the Crucifixion of Jesus at Calvary.

I know there is some quote by St. Padre Pio along the line of “priests are the butchers of Jesus during the Mass.” Something seems quite powerful about this, but I don’t understand it fully.

I have found myself crying at Mass during the Consecration, even before I really understood what the Eucharist was. This comes from my love for God, and my desire for Him in the Eucharist. I want to more fully understand the sacrificial reality of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.
You can read Calvary and the Mass by Bishop Sheen here…
sanctamissa.org/en/resources/books/calvary/prologue.html
“Everyone else, who was ever born into the world, came into it to live; our Lord came into it to die. Death was a stumbling block to the life of Socrates, but it was the crown to the life of Christ. He Himself told us that He came “to give his life redemption for many”; that no one could take away His Life; but He would lay it down of Himself.”
Bishop Sheen
You can click " index " on the page and check out the entire “Spirituality of the Mass” text.

Sancta Missa rocks 🙂
 
I know there is some quote by St. Padre Pio along the line of “priests are the butchers of Jesus during the Mass.” Something seems quite powerful about this, but I don’t understand it fully.

With all respect to St. Pio, I find those words disturbing. Had they been said by anyone but a saint, I would find them sacreligious.

Against these words, I offer the Fraction prayer from the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom:

Broken and distributed is the Lamb of God, Who is broken, but not disunited; Who is ever eaten, but never consumed–yet sanctifes those who partake of Him.
 
I did not either then it came together for me. It took allot of years and reading but you can start by studying how the Jews celebrate Passover. Moses told them what to do and they still do it today. The studder meal. Excuse all my misspelling. Then study the Passion Week in all the gospels. Look for the four cups the last being on the Cross when he was given the wine on the stick and sponge and said “it is finished”. Then study all four Gospels where he told us WHAT TO DO! This is the important part. If you don’t think one part is more important than the other consider Daniel 9:21. Most angelic apparitions are mild with the Angel gently appearing an saying something like “do not be afraid” but here the head of all the Angles at a time of day when no one is allowed by law to do anything is “being caused to fly swiftly” or in some versions " came to me at a high rate of speed" Yes this message must of been the most important. Next consider the words to us of his Mother at the wedding “Listen to him” in one Gospel, you find it and after that consider the words of God his Father in three Gospels. At the transfiguration God the father tells us to “Do as he tells you” So what does he tell us to do? And of all his words why are these most important for us? In all his words of say a red letter bible only these say what to do. In the first three Gospels most chapters are 25 to 45 verses long. Look for the one in each gospel that is over 70, exclude Luke’s first which is 80 and about another important. Jesus speaks to you, He says “Do this” “Do this” "Do this”. Finally read in John’s longest chapter, the bread of life discourse ending at the worst verse in the Bible, 6:66. It is so beautiful and he puts it all together for you, us. No one ever taught me these things and please some one tell me if I am wrong but as Paul wrote in prison, I read. Hoping this helps you and others.

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I have to admit, although I view myself as quite knowledgeable in the Faith, there are a few major things that I am lacking. One is that I have never really been taught much about how the Holy Mass is a Sacrifice and how it is a re-presentation of the Crucifixion of Jesus at Calvary.
Hopefully this helps, but the only difference between the sacrifice on Calvary and the Sacrifice of the Mass is that the latter is an unbloody event.

The Sacrifice of the Mass is not a recitation of a narrative and it is not a mere remembrance. This is one of the many things that separates Catholics from Lutherans.
 
I have to admit, although I view myself as quite knowledgeable in the Faith, there are a few major things that I am lacking. One is that I have never really been taught much about how the Holy Mass is a Sacrifice and how it is a re-presentation of the Crucifixion of Jesus at Calvary.
I know you aren’t interesting in hearing another Traditionalists attack on the Novus Ordo, and believe it or not that is not my intent; but the reality is, the Novus Ordo does not reflect this sacrifice. It’s more of a “service” where you hear Bible readings, and maybe sing, shake hands with your neighbor, and hear a sermon; but the sacrificial nature of the Mass is greatly diminished.

At the Traditional Mass you realize that something is taking place up there on the altar (not table). The priest and altar boys are facing toward the altar and performing functions. They are offering incense to the altar; they are speaking quietly, and you can’t quite hear them. They are doing something with a Chalice - holding it up to God. They are doing something, but they are not talking to the congregation. They are talking to someone else. Who are they talking to, and what exactly are they doing up there? At first you may not realize what they are doing, but you know SOMETHING is happening. There is an ACTION taking place. What exactly are they doing?

This is part of the mystery - at least at first. It will make you curious to learn more. So what actually is taking place?

Well, what is taking place is both simple and infinitely mysterious a the same time. What is taking place on the altar is EXACTLY what took place on Calvary on the spiritual level. It doesn’t appear the same, but it is the exactly same event non-the-less: it is the once for all Sacrifice of Jesus, transcending time and space and being re-offered to God. The once for all sacrifice of Jesus extends throughout the Church age. It is what the Old Testament sacrifices prefigured - Jesus is the true Lamb of God who the Old Testament lamb prefigured, and through whom the Old Testament lamb derived is efficacy.

The Sacrifice of the Mass is the “continual sacrifice” that the prophet Daniel speaks of - the Lamb that was slain for our sins, is again being offered to God for our sins. It is what the prophet Malachi spoke of when he said

**Malachi 1:11: **“From the rising of the sun even to the going down thereof, my name is great among the Gentiltes, and in ever place there is sacrifice, and there is offered to my name a clean oblation: for my name is great among the Gentiles…"

**Justin Martyr: 155AD: **“God speaks by the mouth of Malachi, one of the twelve [minor prophets], as I said before, about the sacrifices at that time presented by you: ‘I have no pleasure in you, says the Lord, and I will not accept your sacrifices at your hands; for from the rising of the sun to the going down of the same, my name has been glorified among the Gentiles, and in every place incense is offered to my name, and a pure offering, for my name is great among the Gentiles . . . [Mal. 1:10–11]. He then speaks of those Gentiles, namely us [Christians] who in every place offer sacrifices to him, that is, the bread of the Eucharist and also the cup of the Eucharist” (Dialogue with Trypho the Jew 41 [A.D. 155]).

**Irenaeus: 189AD: **“He took from among creation that which is bread, and gave thanks, saying, ‘This is my body.’ The cup likewise, which is from among the creation to which we belong, he confessed to be his blood. He taught the new sacrifice of the new covenant, of which Malachi, one of the twelve [minor] prophets, had signified beforehand: ‘You do not do my will, says the Lord Almighty, and I will not accept a sacrifice at your hands. For from the rising of the sun to its setting my name is glorified among the Gentiles, and in every place incense is offered to my name, and a pure sacrifice; for great is my name among the Gentiles, says the Lord Almighty’ [Mal. 1:10–11]. By these words he makes it plain that the former people will cease to make offerings to God; but that in every place sacrifice will be offered to him, and indeed, a pure one, for his name is glorified among the Gentiles” (Against Heresies 4:17:5 [A.D. 189]).

Jesus is said to be “a Priest forever according to the order of Melchisedech”. Why is he a Priest according to the order of Melchisedech? Because Melchisedech offer to God a sacrifice of bread and wine; just as our Lord is offered to God as sacrifice under the appearances of bread and wine. Through transubstantiation, what appears to be bread is no longer bread. Thus, what is offered to God is not “the fruit of the vine and work of human hands”, but Jesus Christ in the flesh.

continue…
 
continuation

The Mass is a continual offering of the Sacrifice of Jesus to God in time, and enables each one of us to be spiritually present at the event that took place on Calvary, and to reap the same benefits as if we were present then. It is at the Mass that the graces Our Lord merited for us are distributed to us - according to the disposition of each one. Do you have a special need? Offer it to God along with the blood of Christ at Mass. Place your petitions in the chalice so that, when the Priest offers the sacrifice to God, your petitions are included. Have you made sacrifices during the week? Place them spiritually in the chalice so that, through the merits of Our Lord, they will be pleasing and acceptable to God Almighty.

The Mass is The Hidden Treasure – it is really and truly the sacrifice that Christ made to His Father on Calvary, transcending time and space, and the means by which we obtain our spiritual needs. What more can we offer to God than the Sacrifice of Jesus? That is what we are able to do at the Mass – but not if we don’t understand it.

We could go on and on about what the Mass is. The book I linked to above was written by a saint and will do just that. The Priest who brought me into the Catholic Church once said “you are not a real Catholic until you’ve read that book”. He didn’t mean it literally, but I think you get the point.

Another good book I would recommend is The Incredible Catholic Mass. If you read these two books your appreciation for the Mass will increase greatly, and you will understand it on a level that few do.
 
Let us see if I could say it right. Just correct me if I get unquestionably wrong.

Firstly, I don’t think the Holy Mass is a re-presentation of the Crucifixion of Jesus at Calvary. For to say that it is a re-presentation would imply a “repetition” of what had been done before. It is not like that . There is no repetition of a past event there.
Ah, a common misconception. What the Church teaches is that the Mass is timeless. When we think of what Jesus said at the last supper: “Do this in memory of me” he was using the word “memory” in the Jewish context. If we think of the Seder meal which commemorates the Passover, the first question the youngest child asks is “Why is this night different from all other nights?” Note the use of the present tense.

In the Jewish understanding, they do not “think back” to the event but, rather, bring themselves to the event being discussed. This is true for the Mass as well. We do not re-crucify Jesus but, rather, are present at his one and only crucifixion through the Mass. This is why the Mass is the “re-presentation,” that is, presenting again, the crucifixion. We stand at the foot of the cross. It’s a bloodless sacrifice because we do not shed His blood again but, rather, stand at the cross where is blood is being shed for us.

The Mass is a sacrifice because we are there, at the cross, when Jesus is crucified, dies, is buried and rises again (each Sunday is called a “little Easter”).

Does that help?

Deacon Ed
 
There are some very interesting points about Mass as sacrafice in LazerLike42’s pamphlet, The Mass: A Brief Explanation. Examples:
  • Connection between Passover sacrifice and Christian idea of Jesus as the Lamb of God.
  • Sacrificial connotation of words used by Jesus at the Last Supper.
Aside: How troubling is a post like this!?! It strikes me a scandalous! Why is this fundamental aspect of Catholic Liturgy so poorly understood?

For my part, after 30 years or so of exposure to NO/OF, I certainly didn’t understand it. Although the NO/OF is supposed to perfectly clear to everybody, I didn’t grasp sacrificial nature of Mass until I discovered TLM/EF. Maybe in general I’m just obtuse; but regarding this point, I believe I’m pretty typical.

The only explanation that makes any sense to me is that it’s intentional: Church leaders must not want Catholics to understand the Mass in sacrificial terms now.

But, if that’s true, it’s outrageous. It would be an enormous change made in stealth mode.

I know I sound like a conspiracy theory kook with a tin foil hat. Believe me, I would be glad to hear a better explanation. Why don’t all Catholics know all about this basic point?

TIA. ASD​

Traditional Latin Mass: Translation and Grammar
 
In addition to Scott Hahn’s “The Lamb’s Supper”, I recommend “The Fourth Cup” video by the same author.
I recently watched a video “The Eucharist - linking Heaven and Earth” by Fr Benny Mc Hale, a priest of the Archdiocese of Tuam and found it to be excellent.
 
In the Jewish understanding, they do not “think back” to the event but, rather, bring themselves to the event being discussed. This is true for the Mass as well. We do not re-crucify Jesus but, rather, are present at his one and only crucifixion through the Mass. This is why the Mass is the “re-presentation,” that is, presenting again, the crucifixion. We stand at the foot of the cross. It’s a bloodless sacrifice because we do not shed His blood again but, rather, stand at the cross where is blood is being shed for us.
This is nice! “Re-presentation”, meaning "“presenting again”.

Firstly, I doubt if there is such a word as “re-presentation” in the CCC or in the testimonies of the Church Fathers.

Secondly, the concept of re-presentation would tend to make the sacrifice of Christ like a show. A show presented about 2,000 years ago is re-shown today. I don’t think it is like a film.

Please clarify your position.
 
Agangern,

This might help. It doesn’t use the word “representation”, but it is a good and easy to understand explanation. It is taken from the Catechism of Pope St Pius X:
The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass

The Essence, Institution and Ends of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass

1 Q. Should the Holy Eucharist be considered only as a sacrament?

A. The Holy Eucharist, besides being a sacrament, is also the permanent Sacrifice of the New Law, which Jesus Christ left to His Church to be offered to God by the hands of His priests.

2 Q. In what in general does a sacrifice consist?

A. In general a sacrifice consists in the offering of some sensible thing to God and in some way destroying it as an acknowledgment of His Supreme Dominion over us and over all things.

3 Q. What is this Sacrifice of the New Law called?

A. This Sacrifice of the New Law is called the Holy Mass.

4 Q. What, then, is the Holy Mass?

A. The Holy Mass is the Sacrifice of the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ offered on our altars under the appearances of bread and wine, in commemoration of the Sacrifice of the Cross.

5 Q. Is the Sacrifice of the Mass the same as that of the Cross?

A. The Sacrifice of the Mass is substantially the same as that of the Cross, for the same Jesus Christ, Who offered Himself on the Cross, it is Who offers Himself by the hands of the priests, His ministers, on our altars; but as regards the way in which He is offered, the Sacrifice of the Mass differs from the Sacrifice of the Cross, though retaining the most intimate and essential relation to it.

6 Q. What difference and relation then is there between the Sacrifice of the Mass and that of the Cross?

A. Between the Sacrifice of the Mass and that of the Cross there is this difference and relation, that on the Cross Jesus Christ offered Himself by shedding His Blood and meriting for us; whereas on our altars He sacrifices Himself without the shedding of His Blood, and applies to us the fruits of His passion And death.

7 Q. What other relation has the Sacrifice of the Mass to that of the Cross?

A. Another relation of the Sacrifice of the Mass to that of the Cross is, that the Sacrifice of the Mass represents in a sensible way the shedding of the Blood of Jesus Christ on the Cross, because, in virtue of the words of consecration, only the Body of our Saviour is made present under the species of the bread and only His Blood under the species of the wine; although by natural concomitance and by the hypostatic union, the living And real Jesus Christ is present under each of the species.
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8 Q. Is not the Sacrifice of the Cross the one only Sacrifice of the New Law?**

A. The Sacrifice of the Cross is the one only Sacrifice of the New Law, inasmuch as through it Our Lord satisfied Divine Justice, acquired all the merits necessary to save us, and thus, on His part, fully accomplished our redemption. These merits, however, He applies to us through the means instituted by Him in His Church, among which is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

9 Q. For what ends then is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass offered?

A. The Sacrifice of the Mass is offered to God for four ends: (1) To honour Him properly, and hence it is called Latreutical; (2) To thank Him for His favours, and hence it is called Eucharistical; (3) To appease Him, make Him due satisfaction for our sins, and to help the souls in Purgatory, and hence it is called Propitiatory; (4) To obtain all the graces necessary for us, and hence it is called Impetratory.
 
This is nice! “Re-presentation”, meaning "“presenting again”.

Firstly, I doubt if there is such a word as “re-presentation” in the CCC or in the testimonies of the Church Fathers.
Look at paragraph 1366 in the catechism and you’ll find the word right there! The Church Fathers did not use that word, it is part of the development of our understanding of what takes place at the Mass.
Secondly, the concept of re-presentation would tend to make the sacrifice of Christ like a show. A show presented about 2,000 years ago is re-shown today. I don’t think it is like a film.
Please clarify your position.
In the teachings of the Church the Mass is the action of Christ rendered through the person of the priest. It is not a “show” in any sense of the word. It is the actual self-giving of Jesus on the cross. There’s nothing to “clarify” and it’s not “my position” – it’s what the Church teaches.

Deacon Ed
 
This is nice! “Re-presentation”, meaning "“presenting again”.

Firstly, I doubt if there is such a word as “re-presentation” in the CCC or in the testimonies of the Church Fathers.

Secondly, the concept of re-presentation would tend to make the sacrifice of Christ like a show. A show presented about 2,000 years ago is re-shown today. I don’t think it is like a film.

Please clarify your position.
By the power of God, the sacrifice is made present to us. Does that help?
 
There are some very interesting points about Mass as sacrafice in LazerLike42’s pamphlet, The Mass: A Brief Explanation. Examples:
  • Connection between Passover sacrifice and Christian idea of Jesus as the Lamb of God.
  • Sacrificial connotation of words used by Jesus at the Last Supper.
Aside: How troubling is a post like this!?! It strikes me a scandalous! Why is this fundamental aspect of Catholic Liturgy so poorly understood?

For my part, after 30 years or so of exposure to NO/OF, I certainly didn’t understand it. Although the NO/OF is supposed to perfectly clear to everybody, I didn’t grasp sacrificial nature of Mass until I discovered TLM/EF. Maybe in general I’m just obtuse; but regarding this point, I believe I’m pretty typical.

The only explanation that makes any sense to me is that it’s intentional: Church leaders must not want Catholics to understand the Mass in sacrificial terms now.

But, if that’s true, it’s outrageous. It would be an enormous change made in stealth mode.

I know I sound like a conspiracy theory kook with a tin foil hat. Believe me, I would be glad to hear a better explanation. Why don’t all Catholics know all about this basic point?

TIA. ASD​

Traditional Latin Mass: Translation and Grammar
I agree. I hadn’t heard anything about the “sacrificial nature” and re-presenation of Calvary at the Mass except when the moto propio was issued and there was new interest in the TLM.

I knew Christ was present in the Eucharist, but I didn’t know it had anything to do with Calvary. 😊 I mainly related the Mass to the Last Supper.
 
In the teachings of the Church the Mass is the action of Christ rendered through the person of the priest. It is not a “show” in any sense of the word. It is the actual self-giving of Jesus on the cross. There’s nothing to “clarify” and it’s not “my position” – it’s what the Church teaches.

Deacon Ed
There is no question that the mass is the action of Christ. But the word “re-presentation” is not there, more so the meaning you gave to it as “presenting again”.

Look at it:

***1366 The Eucharist is thus a sacrifice because it re-presents (makes present) the sacrifice of the cross, because it is its memorial and because it applies its fruit: ***

Certainly, the word “presenting again” is not the same as “makes present”.

Think about it.
 
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