where does a 10-year old kid learn that Catholics go to Hell?

[Nickkname]

I am not sure what you are trying to say here, but let me throw in my two cents for whatever they are worth. First, the Church teaches that there is no salvation outside of the Church. That is not something said by “some Catholics” it is a magisterial teaching. However, it must be understood what is meant by the Church. The Catholic Church considers all baptized Christians to be members of the Church. Some are incomplete members, but members nonetheless. Now other non-Catholic Christians may not like the assertion made by the Church. This does not take away from the truth of the statement that there is no salvation outside of the Church.

You last sentence I could not understand. Could you restate it or maybe clarify it?

1. The Church teaches that salvation comes from Christ the Head through His Body the Church. Hence, there is no salvation outside the Church. In other words, the Church is the Sacrament of Salvation. God is not bound by His sacraments: He can give us graces outside of the sacrament, yet this dosen’t mean He breaks the sacraments, since all graces and spiritual blessings come from Jesus in the Eucharist. Hence, those who do God’s will according to their conscience and have no knowledge of Christ can be saved. So, no, non-Catholics don’t automatically go to Hell. (By the way, saying non-Catholics automatically go to Hell is the equivalent of saying all Catholics go to Heaven, which is not true)
2. The world hates Christ, and since it hates Him, it also hates His Body and Heart, that is, the Church and the Eucharist (the Eucharist makes the Church and it is the Heart of the Body). The world believes Catholics should go to Hell because it believes Catholics are evil, since we are against abortion, contraception, homosexual marriage, human cloning, superstition, the occult, etc.

 

[Bwsherman]

1. The Church teaches that salvation comes from Christ the Head through His Body the Church. Hence, there is no salvation outside the Church. In other words, the Church is the Sacrament of Salvation. God is not bound by His sacraments: He can give us graces outside of the sacrament, yet this dosen’t mean He breaks the sacraments, since all graces and spiritual blessings come from Jesus in the Eucharist. Hence, those who do God’s will according to their conscience and have no knowledge of Christ can be saved. So, no, non-Catholics don’t go to Hell.
2. The world hates Christ, and since it hates Him, it also hates His Body and Heart, that is, the Church and the Eucharist (the Eucharist makes the Church and it is the Heart of the Body). The world believes Catholics should go to Hell because it believes Catholics are evil, since we are against abortion, contraception, homosexual marriage, human cloning, superstition, the occult, etc.

I never said that non-Catholics go to hell. I promise that I don’t need a hermeneutics lesson about the workings of the ecclesial body. Your second statement is clearer, but I don’t see the world as stating that Catholics should go to hell. The secular world, if that is what you are referring to, does not condemn anyone to hell because they try to make it seem like there is no heaven or hell. Looking at Bill Maher’s new movie is a perfect example of this concept. Nevertheless, I think we are on the same side. I just wasn’t agreeing with your word choice in your post before this one.

 

[Robert_in_SD]

Paul could never seem to get it together.
One minute, he’s a passionate Pharisee,
the next minute, now he’s a passionate Christian.

One minute he’s talking about faith in Jesus -as constituting ‘salvation,’
“Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved…” [Acts 16]

and the next minute he’s saying:
“Work out your salvation in fear and trembling.” [Philippians 2]

Then we leap to James, to add to the confusion:
“…faith without works is useless…” [James 2]

So:
on Tuesdays and Saturdays, faith in Jesus = salvation?
on Mondays and Wednesdays = fear and trembling [aka ‘works’]?

The whole structure of this novel theology was built on a foundation of angelfood cake: ontological sin.

No one was awaiting a savior from sin.
A messiah [the anointed] is awaited - who will establish
God’s kingdom on earth - just as King David, strengthened by
God, led His people.

Jesus had it in his head that he was that messiah.
Paul fell all over himself, trying to provide a ‘reason’ for a savior.
“I know! I’ll say that we ‘inherit’ the sin of Adam.”

No one who knew Torah would have taken this flight of fancy seriously.
Hence, Paul headed off to the Gentiles, who wouldn’t have known Torah.

reen12

What does this have to do with the original post? Stop hijacking other people’s threads. If you want to deny the veracity of Scripture, take it to the apologetics page.

 

[mark_a]

She learned it from her parents.

From experience I can tell you that some kids are learning that Catholics go to hell from their pastor in church, during church services, during the sermon.

After being taken there by their parents.

 

[Nickkname]

I never said that non-Catholics go to hell. I promise that I don’t need a hermeneutics lesson about the workings of the ecclesial body. Your second statement is clearer, but I don’t see the world as stating that Catholics should go to hell. The secular world, if that is what you are referring to, does not condemn anyone to hell because they try to make it seem like there is no heaven or hell. Looking at Bill Maher’s new movie is a perfect example of this concept. Nevertheless, I think we are on the same side. I just wasn’t agreeing with your word choice in your post before this one.

The world uses double standards. It both denies hell and, secretly, believes in it. It dose not believe in hell like we do, that is, as a real state and place, but rather, as a more imagnitive state and place that the world hopes exists so those it deems to be “evil” can go there to suffer forever.

 

[RobHom]

From experience I can tell you that some kids are learning that Catholics go to hell from their pastor in church, during church services, during the sermon.

After being taken there by their parents.

Here in certain parts of the south…where “anybody” can “found” a church or a religion…its quite common to here ignorant statements that defy “reality” or even “sanity”… I think on some levels…its called “brainwashing”.

I’ve been told that “Catholics” have 3rd eye hidden under a flap of skin on our foreheads, and we always wear long pants because we have to hide a tail like the devil’s!! I was wearing shorts at the time the XXXXXX told me that…

Its called “disinformation” would will later lead to great embarrassment to the disinformed at a later date…

 

[eucharisteo]

Circular reasoning. Using what is to be proved…as part of the ‘proof.’

Mere assertion.

Faith is faith - because faith-beliefs are not available to empirics. :coffeeread:

'T’were they available, faith would no longer be ‘faith.’

It could be said: “As soon as we find a unicorn, everyone will
know that there are unicorns.” http://bestsmileys.com/nono/9.gif

Best,

reens

Actually it’s not based on assertion. It’s based on historical and biblical facts. The term Christian was first recorded in Antioch…So was the term Catholic. Read, don’t assume…we know what happens when we ASSUME. I found the writings of ancient Church leaders during the 1st Century Church that showed very clearly that they used the term Catholic to describe the Church, Eucharist as the real body and blood of Christ. They even clearly state that the nothing is permited without the bishops approval…very clearly. It’s when we decide to defy our parents that we end up getting into trouble. Sure, when parents mess up, kids get lost…that’s how the reformation got kicked off…a bunch of bad priest and bishops…and even a pope. Scandal happens and needs to be corrected. But that still doesn’t take away from the truth. It only shows that it needs to be dealt with…corrected. We always want to take things into our own hands… I still have to fight off the Protestant within me when I get angry about things…thinking I know best. I give it to Jesus on the cross.

 

[eucharisteo]

A kid at my church told me that her friend said Catholics go to Hell. Wow!

I could see this is why many people when they grow older, they come to realize what they heard was just wrong.

Oh and to answer you question…in my previous faith. Only they believe everybody else is going there too.

 

[LutheranDK]

A kid at my church told me that her friend said Catholics go to Hell. Wow!

I could see this is why many people when they grow older, they come to realize what they heard was just wrong.

Where did she learn it? Probably Sunday School - which must also be where other 10-year olds learn that non-RC’s go to Hell because they are not RC’s…

Potato-potaato…

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

Where did she learn it? Probably Sunday School - which must also be where other 10-year olds learn that non-RC’s go to Hell because they are not RC’s…

Potato-potaato…

Umm… I was raised in heavily Catholic schools all throughout my preschool and a majority of my elementary years and we never talked about people of different religions going to hell. During the one time I went to a Protestant school though (6th Grade), oho, there was an unusual amount of discussion of hell in their material. (It was also my firsthand experience with fundamentalism, even though I didn’t know it at the time. XD)

 

[Rawb]

Where did she learn it? Probably Sunday School - which must also be where other 10-year olds learn that non-RC’s go to Hell because they are not RC’s…

Potato-potaato…

Catholics are absolutely forbidden from saying for sure that someone will go to hell. God’s mercy may land a non-Catholic in Purgatory and thus Heaven.

I teach 10 year olds CCD. I would place my soul in danger if I were to tell them that non-Catholics automatically go to hell.

 

[eucharisteo]

Catholics are absolutely forbidden from saying for sure that someone will go to hell. God’s mercy may land a non-Catholic in Purgatory and thus Heaven.

I teach 10 year olds CCD. I would place my soul in danger if I were to tell them that non-Catholics automatically go to hell.

Funny, in a sad kind of way. My dad used to teach me that all non-Catholics go to hell…and the Catholics better be praying their rosaries when they die. The irony is that he set himself up to fail. I’m not sure where his faith was when he died. He caused so much pain in my life that ultimately along with several bad clerical happenings involving scandal I ended up running. That’s how I ended up in a fundamentalist church. The irony is that that experience strengthened my faith in God and ultimately because I was always bent on learning the “truth” I ended up finding, by grace, the didache and the ancient church fathers. EWTN and Catholic radio also helps along with those Scott Hahn CD’s and books. But the main thing that helped me was the rosary… Once I realized the Blessed Mother’s roll in all of this it all began to fall into place. But it wasn’t without struggle because I was initially convince that the Orthodox Church was where I wanted to go. My wife resisted that and kept studying and explaining Catholicism as she learned it. I knew some of it, but most of it seemed to be grace only that was revealing it to me. It was a remarkable experience. So, here I am, praying for my diceased mother, father and brother, all of differnt faiths, unsure whether or not they ended up practicing it in the end. We were very distant after all the hateful things done to my wife and me.