Where does a Christians sense of peace stem from?

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Peace comes from the fact that we are redeemed. Christian peace does not equate to psychological peace or political conceptions of peace. I don’t think it even equates to love, or to the feeling of “being at peace”.

We know peace because we are saved from eternal damnation by the wonderful Mercy of Our Lord. That we don’t always feel that peace is a sign of our weakness and is distinct from our objective state. If anything, I think peace is close to abandonment, because total abandonment to God’s will and renunciation of ourselves surely brings us peace.
 
We enter into the joy and peace of God’s kingdom through obedient faith.

Peace I leave with you; my peace I give to you. Not as the world gives do I give it to you. Do not let your hearts be troubled or afraid. (John 14:27)

Rejoice in the Lord always. I shall say it again; rejoice! Your kindness should be known to all. The Lord is near. Have no anxiety at all, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, make your requests known to God. Then the peace of God that surpasses all understanding will guard your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus.
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is gracious, if there is any excellence and if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. Keep on doing what you have learned and received and heard and seen in me. Then the God of peace will be with you.
(Philippians 4:4-9)
 
So what is our sense of peace supposed to be based upon?
Good question. I’ve often thought of it myself but haven’t been able to solve this.

At first I thought it was all God’s doing; but then I realized that we ourselves allow God’s peace (which I hope we all as Christians have experienced) to be choked out by the weeds of anxiety in the world.

And what about the real, visible, tangible peace we see our Protestant brothers experience? I know of one who claims he began to experience God’s peace after he left the Catholic Church and realized that all his sins were forgiven forever (Once saved, Always saved) and that nothing he could say or do could seperate him from the Lord.

We as Catholics know he’s mistaken. If this is his peace it must be some psychological trick that his own mind is playing on him because it asuredly does not come from the Lord and is demonstrably false.

Yet he claims he gets peace from this lie.

I guess it’s just deep, abiding trust in the Lord.
 
Our sense of peace should come from conforming our will to the will of God and offering all we are to God. When we are aware that what we are doing is God’ will that frees us from anxiety and gives us peace. Even in times of suffering and pain we can be in peace knowing that we rest in God’s love.
I used to see things as black and white and assumed that Gods will for us is to not sin. So i avoided sin at all costs. In doing so i suppressed my will which lead to major burn out and now major depression. I remember one of the saints i believe it was Padre Pio saying that his only worry was that he often was not sure if what he was doing was Gods will.
How do we know than if we are doing Gods will?
 
On the fact that Jesus always loves us, no matter what. 🙂
That is a heaps good answer! I always felt that the saints great sense of peace came from their enlightenment of Gods love for them. The only problem i have i guess is fear of hell or purgatory. God loves us all immensely but that doesn’t change the fact that we still may suffer in purgatory or even worse hell. For instance, if someone were to kidnap me and then attempt to skin me alive, the thought of my mom loving me would not make that pain go away. Sorry for the poor descriptive metaphor. Just throwing it out there.
 
So what is our sense of peace supposed to be based upon?
Personally, my peace comes from the truth that when all is said and done (no matter what this life dishes out and fellow sinners do to me), in my soul dwells the Holy Trinity. In the end it will be me before God, and he loves me so much. God will give me eternal bliss in his presence if I take up my cross daily and follow him for these few short years on earth.
 
This is an excellent question and I would like to add my two cents to the discussion here. Later, if it’s appropriate, I’ll share some theological thoughts on this. But for now I would like to share some of my experience in this area.

To me inner peace is the grand silence of the soul. For example, I come onto CAF because there are people here whom I like very much and with whom I enjoy communicating. We learn from each other and we offer each other spiritual support. However, there are times when I run into posts where people are cruel or make statements that are totally unacceptable and dead wrong. Like most human beings I tend to get upset at these. What I have learned is to keep my inner silence by reminding myself that I can’t change what they are or what they say.

St. Bernadette once told a bishop something that I have used a lot on CAF. The bishop was asking her some tough questions about her visions. She answered, “Msgr. I have been sent to tell you the truth, not to convince you.” That has always worked for me. When I come up against people who don’t want to be reasonable or to dialogue, but just want to attack, I remind myself that God has not sent me into the world to convince anyone of anything, but only to tell the world the truth of what he has said and done for us. This gives me great peace.

Another source of peace for me has been my own Franciscan formation. I’m a Secular Franciscan Brother. My wife died when my children were very young and I raised them alone. Today they are young adults (19 and 24). I remember the night that she died as if it were today. I cried because I was afraid of being left behind with two very young kids, one with autism. But I also cried because I was not going home and he was. Suddenly, I realized that my joy was now complete, because our holy father Francis has taught us in his rule and through his life to live the Gospel very literally, above all to embrace the cross. The cross had been used by the Romans as an instrument of torture, but Christ had converted it into a portal to God’s mercy. My wife’s death and having to raise two young children alone was my doorway into God’s mercy. I can’t explain the happiness that overcame me. I had found my cross. In other words, I had found my doorway to Heaven.

My ministry within the Church is another great source of peace. As I work each day to touch other people’s lives and to accept them as God accepts them to love them as God loves them, I have a harder time getting angry at them. Even when I get angry, it doesn’t last long. I can usually find it in my heart and mind to blow it off, because I am poor. St. Francis told us to embrace the poverty of Christ and to be the smallest in the Kingdom of Heaven. By becoming the smallest, I’m finding that I don’t have any right to a sense of entitlement. Whatever good comes my way comes as a gift from God. Whatever good I do is done by God. Whatever good I say is said by God. My job is to be a needle in God’s hand as he sews the great tapestry of life and eternity.

Finally, there is prayer. My daily routine is pretty simple. I get up early in the morning and pray the Liturgy of the Hours. On my way to work I pray the rosary in the car. On my way home I stop in for a visit with my best friend in the Tabernacle. If you could only imagine how much I think of him during the day and how much I imagine him in my mind exposed before me under the appearance of bread and wine. It gives me a great sense of joy. I can’t explain it all the time. In the evening there is Liturgy of the Hours, spiritual reading, meditation, silent prayer and finally I turn off the light and go to bed with my rosary in hand praying the Chaplet of Divine Mercy. There are the Sacraments of Reconciliation and the Eucharist.

Woven into all of this there are my family obligations, my obligations to my Franciscan community, my duties at work and my duties in the diocese and in my parish. I don’t have time to waste looking for peace. I just have to wait for God to provide it. In the meantime, I just blow off the storms that come my way. The world is not perfect and people within the Church are imperfect too. But I can’t take time to worry about that or argue about it. I have things to do and people to serve. I’ll deal with those when they cross my path, in God’s time and on his terms.

Just my two cents.

Fraternally,

JR 🙂
Thank you soooo much for your detailed response and taking time out for me. I understand that our peace is not based upon the things of this world, upon what we have, what we do or upon our reputation. These things are all illusions. I guess the real problem that i have isn’t to do with whats in this world but rather whats waiting for me in the next. Words cannot do justice to how fearful i am of hell and purgatory. If i were to be sure of my place in heaven than it would be much easier to maintain peace through all of the hardships of life. Of course i love the cross. But i cant find peace when i am in constant fear of what may be waiting me.
 
Good question. I’ve often thought of it myself but haven’t been able to solve this.

At first I thought it was all God’s doing; but then I realized that we ourselves allow God’s peace (which I hope we all as Christians have experienced) to be choked out by the weeds of anxiety in the world.

And what about the real, visible, tangible peace we see our Protestant brothers experience? I know of one who claims he began to experience God’s peace after he left the Catholic Church and realized that all his sins were forgiven forever (Once saved, Always saved) and that nothing he could say or do could seperate him from the Lord.

We as Catholics know he’s mistaken. If this is his peace it must be some psychological trick that his own mind is playing on him because it asuredly does not come from the Lord and is demonstrably false.

Yet he claims he gets peace from this lie.

I guess it’s just deep, abiding trust in the Lord.
I guess that the peace of many protestants may come from the idea that they have already been admitted into heaven, it’s just a matter of time. If i believed this for myself i guess that i would have a great sense of peace as well. But i doubt whether or not i will be received into heaven. And even if i do not go to hell, i fear purgatory. Its hard to be at peace when you know that there is great suffering lying ahead, if not eternally at least for the duration of your time in purgatory.
 
Our sense of peace should come from conforming our will to the will of God and offering all we are to God. When we are aware that what we are doing is God’ will that frees us from anxiety and gives us peace. Even in times of suffering and pain we can be in peace knowing that we rest in God’s love.
QFT
 
I guess that the peace of many protestants may come from the idea that they have already been admitted into heaven, it’s just a matter of time. If i believed this for myself i guess that i would have a great sense of peace as well. But i doubt whether or not i will be received into heaven. And even if i do not go to hell, i fear purgatory. Its hard to be at peace when you know that there is great suffering lying ahead, if not eternally at least for the duration of your time in purgatory.
the “salvation assurance” that protestants and alike believe in will not necessarily cause their condemnation but it is abusive and insulting to the Divine Mercy of our Lord. Those who know no better are not familier with the teachings of say… St. Paul. But those who have left the Catholic Church for this manner of thinking are expected to know better because they left the fullness of Christianity to take advantage of an easier path they feel they can accept.

ah, but peace…
Peace… comes from the recognition of the love and guidence of our Lord for us. Getting to that point when you realize you control nothing in this life but the choices you make and you absolutely turn over everything that you have been and offer to Him everything that you will be and the world can do nothing to you. Its in the learning about Him all the things you never realized which brings you to love Him deeply so deeply. Then you know that in His love and Divine Mercy, He will judge you fairly and welcome you with that love.
 
I believe an abundance of what Jesus taught is that true peace comes in total, self-abandonment to God.

There is a difference in true peace and the contentment that comes from disillusionment. People often trick themselves into being content with their situation of “self”, and being thus disillusioned believe to be at peace. They have found reason to continue their life of self (o.s.a.s is one of many of them).

So, in summary, I think the more we are resigned to be crucified (put “self” to “death”) the greater the level of true peace will be attained, b/c at that point it is no longer self we experience, but God Himself Who now has room to live in you (self having been put to death thus leaving room for God to reside).

So yes, trust in God brings peace. And the way to do that is to renounce self (the “old-man”).
 
That is a heaps good answer! I always felt that the saints great sense of peace came from their enlightenment of Gods love for them. The only problem i have i guess is fear of hell or purgatory. God loves us all immensely but that doesn’t change the fact that we still may suffer in purgatory or even worse hell. For instance, if someone were to kidnap me and then attempt to skin me alive, the thought of my mom loving me would not make that pain go away. Sorry for the poor descriptive metaphor. Just throwing it out there.
Unlike your Mom, Jesus is in control. Nothing can happen to you that He doesn’t allow, for some very good reason, and He will give you the endurance you need, if it is something difficult.

You also won’t end up in either Hell or Purgatory without His say-so - you can’t end up there by accident. I think the people who worry the most, quite frankly, are the ones who have the least to worry about. 🙂
 
I understand that as Catholics we have the right to peace in every moment. I’ve gotten so far as to understand that our peace cannot stem from anything in this world for everything around us is constantly changing. For instance, our peace cannot be dependent on what others think of us or upon how good we are at something, because these things can be taken away from us at any moment thus causing us to lose our peace. So our peace then must originate from and depend on something constant and changeless, for instance, the thought that we are each a miracle. This is something that cannot be taken away from us thus our peace would remain.

So what is our sense of peace supposed to be based upon?
The best kept secret for gaining peace - VISIT THE BLESSED SACRAMENT. VISIT OFTEN.
 
Unlike your Mom, Jesus is in control. Nothing can happen to you that He doesn’t allow, for some very good reason, and He will give you the endurance you need, if it is something difficult.

You also won’t end up in either Hell or Purgatory without His say-so - you can’t end up there by accident. I think the people who worry the most, quite frankly, are the ones who have the least to worry about. 🙂
Thanks for you help. u rock!
 
I believe an abundance of what Jesus taught is that true peace comes in total, self-abandonment to God.

There is a difference in true peace and the contentment that comes from disillusionment. People often trick themselves into being content with their situation of “self”, and being thus disillusioned believe to be at peace. They have found reason to continue their life of self (o.s.a.s is one of many of them).

So, in summary, I think the more we are resigned to be crucified (put “self” to “death”) the greater the level of true peace will be attained, b/c at that point it is no longer self we experience, but God Himself Who now has room to live in you (self having been put to death thus leaving room for God to reside).

So yes, trust in God brings peace. And the way to do that is to renounce self (the “old-man”).
I guess that you’re right. And i am able to resign myself to most things that occur in this life. The problem is resigning myself to the possibility of purgatory or hell. It just scares me too much…
 
You know He loves you and is always in control of what happens to you, allowing only what is for your eternal good.
hmmm. wouldn’t that mean that we don’t have free will. i.e. the ability to do things which hurt ourselves and others.
 
I guess that you’re right. And i am able to resign myself to most things that occur in this life. The problem is resigning myself to the possibility of purgatory or hell. It just scares me too much…
only stress about things over which you have some level of control.
 
I guess that you’re right. And i am able to resign myself to most things that occur in this life. The problem is resigning myself to the possibility of purgatory or hell. It just scares me too much…
I see what you mean. And the answer really hinges upon the reason behind the fear. I think talking to a priest is a good idea. I used to suffer from scrupulosity: seeing sin in every area of my life even where it probably never exsisted. That trial made me feel like I was totally and constantly hell-bound (nevermind purgatory. I would have been at peace with the thought of going there!!). I don’t know if that is where your fear comes from, but I thought I’d throw it out there as a possibility.

The other thing I mentioned is actually quite healthy, and that is recognizing our own wretchedness and realization that we really don’t deserve anything but Hell anyway. Such a realization can draw one toaward closer reliance on God (a good thing ;)).

You’re probably wondering what’s the difference? In the first case I think a person is trying with his own strength to “be good” and at every fall (or perceived fall) they grow desperate at their failing efforts. This is the result of pride; thinking we can do anything good on our own. In the second case, the realization of wretchedness is a real one, but rather than falling into despair, he resigns himself to God in all things and lets God be his strength. It’s a lifelong effort to be so resigned, but God is faithful and provides for our weaknesses.

The last thing I mentioned was that true peace which accompanies total-abondonment. It truly is a battle against our own selves to accomplish this at any measure, and entails much more than accepting daily occurances (although that is good!).

I highly recommend a few books that deal with these far better than I:

Dark Night of the Soul by St. John of the Cross
Interior Castle by St. Theresa of Avila
Practice of the Presence of God by Brother Lawrence of the Resurrection
and Abandonment to Divine Providence by Jean-Pierre de Cassaude
(the last 2 being my personal favorites. the first 2 are very deep and may be hard to comprehend at first, but they really are facinating and after one read you’ll want to have them on-hand b/c they make more and more sense as one grows)

Ah, just remembered another goodie (didn’t check your profile, but I’d say it could apply to anyone).
Holiness for Housewives…and other Working Women by Dom Hubert van Zeller. And I do mean it is for anyone, not just women. It’s much like the practice of the presence of God and Abandonment, and it’s in very simple, easy to understand form.

Anyway, Blessings as you find your way~
 
I think Paul gives a good outline of it in Philippians 4:4-9. He gives a set of “steps”, if you will, to attaining the peace of God (vv. 4-7). Then he gives two more instructions – meditate on what is virtuous, and then do it! – to being in the presence of the God of peace (vv. 8-9).

There is no true peace outside of God, and God gives peace differently from the world: the manner of His giving is different, and the quality of the peace is different. God’s peace is not security and contentment in ourselves (and our material possessions), but security and contentment in God and His promises.
 
Looking at the lives of the saints it would seem that the greatest source of peace comes from knowing that one is loved by God and sharing that knowledge with the world. This does not mean the use of words, though at times they may be necessary. More often than not it is imperative that we show that love through our actions of peace.

In his rule for the Secular Franciscans or Brothers and Sisters of Penance as is the original name, Francis states that we (Christians) are to see every person as our brother and sister. We are to accept everyone as they are, not as we want them to be. We are to lead them to the peace and joy that Christ gives us through our example and when necessary use words. Judging from his own life, we observe that he only used words to preach when he had to do so. What made him such a charismatic preacher were not his sermons, but his life. He embraced the saint and the sinner with the same love.

Another charismatic man who can teach us a great deal about peace is Vincent de Paul. Vincent is a very interesting man, because he had no patience for nonsense. It bothered him when people came to him with silly questions that did nothing to improve the lot of the poor on the streets of Paris. It bothered him when Christians were more concerned about their own “stuff” than showing the charity of Christ for the sick and poor or the orphans in Paris. He found peace and promoted peace through charity. In his letters to Louise de Marillac, the first Daughter of Charity, he constantly repeats the same theme as Francis of Assisi, humility and charity.

Then we have a saint like Elizabeth Ann Seton, the mother of five children who gave up everything to serve the poor. She even sacrificed her children’s comfort for the sake of the poor. She became one of them and through her example led her children to embrace the poverty of Christ. Two of her daughters ended up giving their lives for the poor. Anina died as a Sister of Charity and Catherine as a Sister of Mercy. Her youngest died of some rare bone disease as a child. Yet, Elizabeth could not find it in her heart to feel anything but peace. This does not mean that she did not feel the loss like any other mother. She buried two of her daughters and a husband. Loss and pain were part of her journey. But the most beautiful fact about her life was that loss and pain did not take away her peace. She was completely confident that God’s will was done as long as she remained a daughter of the Church as Vincent had written to Louise de Marillac and as Francis of Assisi had written almost 600 years before her.

Our peace comes from harmony with God. Our harmony with God comes from living in harmony with all people and every creature. Our mission is not to change the world, but to seek out ways to unite those around us. If each of us works on his corner of the world, then the world will be transformed. This peace can be taken from us when we bite more than we can chew. Often we want to change the entire world or the entire Church. No one can do this single handed. Each of us has his mission in his given circumstance. Our efforts must focus there.

What we can learn from Francis, Vincent and Elizabeth is to avoid nonsense preoccupations and to avoid the temptation to become the saviours of humanity. These great men and women worked on their souls and shared their light and joy with those around them. The rest happened through the grace of God. This brought them to the peace that only Christ could give, even when they suffered human losses and even serious health problems that eventually killed them.

Fraternally,.

JR 🙂
 
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